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As for Coma, it's my understanding that his stories are basically the "Comaverse", which is his own alternate timeline? He sticks to he fanon, we stick to our canon, it's our choice to make.
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2008-06-07, 22:44 | Link #1022 | |
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Brainstorm! The distribution of power thing is one of the reforms that Regius implemented into the GF when he took control of the ground forces. The idea was originally intended to ensure that no one unit had excessively more power than it strictly needed, sort of like military communism. Rather than have a few high-powered units and masses of redshirts everywhere else, the reforms distributed power evenly across the whole of the ground forces, resulting in huge net increases in unit effectiveness; after all, the few high-powered units always get the job done, but they can't be everywhere at once, which contributed a great deal to the high crime rates Kranagan was suffering from way back when. The navy, on the other hand, doesn't have a problem with power distribution because they don't have the same set of problems the GF has. Let's see..... the navy got all the funding and all the good mages for a long time because the existence of the navy is one of the big points of the bureau; they patrol the dimensional seas and keep the cosmos safe, where the ground forces are a strictly terrestrial power and thus seen as less important when the funds are distributed. But because the navy has so many high-power units (as in multiple A-ranks on the capital ships and higher percentages of B-rank redshirts as opposed to C and D-ranks), they don't pay quite as much attention to power distribution as Regius and his ground forces do. To people like Leti, sticking the Wolkenritter together with Hayate and making them into a single "package deal" isn't anything altogether strange, and problems don't arise until that same package deal begins operating in the army's territory, which sets off alarm bells in Regius's head. Anyone see any holes in my reasoning?
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2008-06-07, 23:09 | Link #1024 | ||||||||
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Aaron just pawned OC for 200 gold HOLY SH-- *Is blasted 100 galaxies away by Ragnarok Breaker* Hayate >>>>>> Haiz Quote:
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2008-06-07, 23:11 | Link #1025 | ||
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The only main problem, I guess, is that there isn't really any high-powered unit in Ground Forces that we've actually laid eyes on. Most of them are kind of ... red-shirts in their own way. I suppose it's handwaivium material, this one. Quote:
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2008-06-07, 23:17 | Link #1026 | |
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Remember, most of the mages in the ground forces are B-ranks or lower. A-ranks and higher will usually be found in the air force, something else that probably ticks Regius off. There will, of course, be exceptions like Ginga, Zest, and Subaru post-StrikerS, but for the most part all the really good mages are in either the Air Forces, the Navy, or the Enforcer units.
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2008-06-07, 23:20 | Link #1027 | |||
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I think it's one of the things 90+% of fans like about it...
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Also it's not even totally about the military Nanoha unlike most examples of it's type has a sort of populist approach to magic it's not horded and the sole domain of a couple of users given it not based on work or merit, but often by cosmic accident. Lots of people can use magic and it's an everyday thing and treated as such by most that know of it. (This is another aspect that nudges it much more toward more classic fantasy) However when something like this becomes widespread and mundane it starts to have mundane issues how do you control the users, what is is and isn't allowed, what kinds of laws govern magic? etc. Nanoha has a sort of odd Fantastical Realism too it yeah sure some people can fly and shot energy beams, but they also still drive around in cars and go home and watch TV after they get off there shift in the local army... This applies even to likes of the Aces yeah they might be the heroes, but they aren't reincarnated princesses destined to rule the world or something. They're basiclly just people with a talent they've got ALLOT of talent, but there have been people as strong as them before and they'll be people as strong as them afterwards. The Aces and mages in general aren't superheroes or heroes out of some greek myth they're people with a talent, but still people and they still deal with problems people deal with annoying bosses, politics, work etc and they live if a world that's rather like our own with most of the same issues and problems. They just happen to be able to fly and shot fireballs... Again this is really not your Daddys magic girl show...
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2008-06-07, 23:27 | Link #1028 | |
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The ranks don't really tell a lot, but from what I gather, even Teana could cope with gadget drones at her B-level. If the masses of Ground Forces were B-ranked, gadgets shouldn't prove to be much of their opponents. I suppose they lack training in that department (anti-AMF), but you'd have to wonder why didn't they exchange information with RF6 for better performance. I think the credit goes to Regius (again) for this? |
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2008-06-08, 00:08 | Link #1030 | |
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Foxbat Disadvantages: 25 Pyschological Limitation: Thinks He's Living In A Comic Book (Common, Total) 5 Rivalry: Professional (with whichever hero or villain he's currently obsessing over) 10 Reputation: lunatic supervillain Best character ever in the Champions-verse tabletop roleplaying setting. He's a guy whose reaction, upon being told that he can't lie around and read comic books all day, is: "Ah-hah! My tragic origin story!" His primary weapon is a ping-pong ball gun which fires pretty dangerous (but non-lethal) rounds. He goes through delusions as often as others change clothes. He's completely crackers, and incredibly fun. The Lina Inverse Fan strikes me as something like that. However, there's that warning for GMs in Foxbat's writeup that should probably be considered here: Foxbat's purpose (and by extension, probably the Lina Inverse Fan's) is for comic relief. That means he stays comic, and never falls into the Serious Realism pit. The Lina Inverse Fan may blast people with Fireballs, but hopefully nobody's actually going to get seriously hurt. |
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2008-06-08, 01:38 | Link #1032 | ||
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1% of a universe I believe is huge when spread out, so once the seals that shape space into the form we see inside the Library is broken, space spreads and rip the HQ from within. And the collision of parallel dimensions is also said to produce a lot of energy (based on another theory of the Big Bang), and that would increase the destructive power of the defolding Library, maybe enough to wipe out the HQ, adjourning naval bases, command points and even the Astronomicon, rendering all other TSAB ships blind, having lost their reference point in the Fold? The death toll would be astronomical too, since the residential blocks of the HQ will be obliterated. (And most of all, Yuuno will go missing for plot purposes. :3) Though to be honest, I might just be milking this mental experiment for all its worth. My main aim is to throw all of TSAB into disarray, and this scenario has the highest potential for total collapse of command and control rendering all of known space easy pickings for the Brotherhood of Nod.
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2008-06-08, 01:55 | Link #1034 |
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Well, planning and stuff for Task Force Six, rough drafts and all.
Unit Name: Lost Property Investigation Task Force Six CO: LTC Hayate Yagami XO: Warrant Officer Griffith Lowran Chief of Staff: Sergeant Major Reinforce Zwei Order of Battle: Stars Squad: (As Canon) Lightning Squad: (As Canon) Hammer Squad: 5-man detachment from the OFM's Assault Platoon, led by 2LT Franz Jaeger with SGT Leo Kozlov as 2IC. Lance Flight: 5 mages from the OFM Air Wing, basically the entire Lance Flight. While Stars and Lightning are the Day Shift, so to speak, Hammer and Lance are the nightshift, on nighttime standby and deploying as needed to back up the Forwards. Investigation Section: Head: Fate T. Harloawn Analyst: 1LT Mikhail Dornitz. An intel specialist from the OFM's Intel element, Mikhail is a targeter: he finds targets, builds intel on them, and delivers his analysis to those in the field. He's gonna help Fate more on the investigation side, since he was a cop before joining the OFM. Felix: Not sure yet. TK can give suggestions that will be listened to. In a way this is a somewhat less grand rebuilt project. It's also my attempt to do a middle of the road approach, balancing things and all.... and also add in some conflicts and stuff: one of the things that annoy the main GF staff is that the Hammer Squad boys all wear their woodland camo fatigues, and not their TSAB Browns. But this is for the future. Time to nap for 15 minits and then get off to work. Franz will also have a hand in mentoring Teana's combat style; in one scene I've written, he and Nanoha have a strong closed doors professional disagreement about how to train Teana, and he points out to Nanoha that she's the Ace of Aces of aerial mages... while Teana is a Ground mage, and Franz has been a ground mage for 18 years, learning his trade of urban warfare in a hard school called Farbanti Operations Zone Alpha.
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2008-06-08, 02:57 | Link #1036 | |
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Yo, You're Back! Welcome back to the madness of OCT
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2008-06-08, 04:06 | Link #1037 | ||||
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Anyway, I think this is not an issue of political pushing, but more a an issue of levels. Let's analyze the numbers: Putting the Wolkenritter together you have: 1 S-rank (Signum) 3 AAA-ranks (Vita, Zafira, hayate(?)) 1 AA-rank (Shamal) Hayate is a wild card, since we never knew her rank prior to StrikerS, but I doubt she was a SS right of the bat, so I'm tempted to label her AAA like her fellow Aces. In this case you have only one S-rank, three AAA-ranks and one AA rank. Sure, that's a lot of power, but lets compare that to RF6 shall we? 1 SS-rank (Hayate) 3 S-ranks (Nanoha, Signum, Fate) 2 AAA-ranks (Vita, Zafira) 1 AA-rank (Shamal) 1 A-rank (Reinforce) 4 B-ranks (Subaru, Teana, Erio, Vice) 1 C-rank (Caro) I think RF6 wasn't just so much 'a lot of firepower in one unit' but more 'too much firepower in one unit' RF6 has four over-S-ranked mages in their unit, the Wolkenritter only one, two as soon as Hayate starts leveling. And this was only during their founding, at the end of StrikerS we can tally 3 more AA ranks to the team and one more A rank. RF6 was simply a case of 'there is no way we can get away with this' Quote:
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2008-06-08, 04:28 | Link #1038 |
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Time for a new Oc to be presented (or OC army). As part of my new fic "Fate of the Reapers" (FotR) I had to create a new race and here I have their profile.
If you find anything that goes against anything, is forbidden or what not, tell me how to fix it, change it, or if I should delete it. Spoiler for Profile:
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2008-06-08, 04:37 | Link #1039 |
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It's not ET, it's not even Scrin! ZOMG it's the Borgs! Somebody call Captain Kirk!
*RUUUNZ* EDIT: I just had Khrack about mashing the Spawn, and the Reapers together to form an even scarier race, Tyrannid. *watches Str 8 Montrous Creature take to the streets* *RUUUUUUUUNZ FASTER* |
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Actually, I'm getting Mass Effect vibes from these guys. It's probably just the name though.
Besides, these reapers destroy and plunder. Borg assimilate and conquer. And seriously, Kirk against the borg? When facing the borg you need Janeway, the only captain who constantly outsmarted and even exploited the Borg. Quote:
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