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View Poll Results: Infinite Stratos - Episode 11 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 12 | 13.79% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 5 | 5.75% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 12 | 13.79% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 13 | 14.94% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 8 | 9.20% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 12 | 13.79% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 8 | 9.20% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 8 | 9.20% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 2 | 2.30% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 7 | 8.05% | |
Voters: 87. You may not vote on this poll |
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2011-03-25, 09:33 | Link #61 |
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They were trying to hard to achieve the "RAEG-- ZOMG I SHOT MY PAL!!" moments common to Gundam... and Unicorn Gundam episode 3.
It's almost as if Banagher is making up for shooting Gilboas in his rage by biting the bullet over here.
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2011-03-25, 10:19 | Link #62 |
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well people think that ichika screwed up... but not he done the right thing... Houki got the best IS on world (4th gen) and throught too higly and mighty about herself... that anyone besides her is weak and all... that human sacrafices dont matter if only does that "she" wants...
she simply was useing her brutal violance without strategy or any kind... lets see what would happen if those civilians on boat would end up dead... killed by IS.... and like the world said... IS has been used in sports and other kind of usage and not in war as machines to kill.... if info would spread the world that humans and civilians to add were killed by IS... people could demand to get rid of IS as they are threat to human kind... like uncontrolable person in IS can be biggest threat to the world.... now they started to make Robo-IS that has no soul and actually it went berserk... so somone used it to military purpose's... so at the end the whole IS school could end up beign close... since IS would end up banned or something as its pointless to teach young children how to operate a killing machine >_< so what did Ichika was simply to avoid the problems of getting cililians involved and since he has no additional weapon he coul do this at most.... but in this time houki could fight gospel and not let shoot those beams and make ichika bounce them away >__< while houki was only standing and yelling....(and she should have a super speed and strong IS >___< ) Well Ichika just said mentioned that Houki shouldnt look on herself as the most powerfull person who can say that killing cililians is OK... becouse its not...(and ow the hell did the teachers lock the area away... is some shitty ship could pass between them >___<) but it was houki herself that noticed that herself.... that she is not better than those boys in her past (flashback where they called her tomboy and all).... that becouse she has strong IS she can do whatever she can... the thing is great power brings responsibility and there is no way to avoid it.... anyway kinda its good what happened becouse houki might start to act little less violent and is more thinking about surrounding.... while Ichika;s IS will evolve again (just like in ep1 :P) so better fight to come ^^ still I wish for open ending... and not Ichika-houki ending if it would happen.... becouse I more preffer Char and Ichika :P (well she has gen2 IS [while rest gen2+/3 prototypes] and after 3years of school she might end up in jail or even death sentence....so way more hardcore than Houki or any other girl... besides Char doesnt mind ichika seeing her naked as she is Ichika no Ecchi XD) |
2011-03-25, 11:45 | Link #63 |
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I wouldn't care about that illegal fishing ship if I were him. there's over 6 billions people in this world, and our resource isn't enough for all of them anyway. Why should we take the risk for those selfish guys who dare trespassing our country knowing it's illegal!?
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2011-03-25, 11:56 | Link #64 | ||
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Did you notice that none of the projectiles started to get shot at the boat until Ichika actually changed his placement? The execution of the scene was atrociously bad: the drone wasn't firing at all towards the boat, and if Ichika rammed through it with that shield cancelling attack, there would no reason for it to be even scathered. Houki was definitely doing textbook what she was supposed to do, and only get apeshit about her "criminal talk", aside of that, the comparison with her performance and the "violence" she was using during her high school kendo period is off the charts. Quote:
IS are seen as military warefare potential, but got pinned to "mere sport" in order to keep a statu quo between the countries. It is obvious that people do not consider them as toys or sport gear at all. Anyway, this episode was probably one of the worst of the series. Direction and presentation were anything but good, considering various points explained already: a needless angst, due to an overdramatic and stupid situation caused for no proper reason. It isn't actually the best deal when you have a very jarring composition in term of the fights, being arguably not inspiring, nor relevant to the actual issue (as explained already: the drone isn't even causing a major rampage to begin with).
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2011-03-25, 11:57 | Link #65 | |
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2011-03-25, 12:01 | Link #66 |
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I want to give a perfect score... but it looks like they fast forward some scene (first half of the episode) so this is only a 'very good' episode for me
I like how Houki become a center of this episode and I enjoy the drama a lot.... (well, I'm a supporter of Houki X Ichika) Hope for an epic battle in next episode |
2011-03-25, 13:46 | Link #70 | |
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2011-03-25, 13:50 | Link #71 | |
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Gospel blew Houki off AFTER Ichika broke off his attack. Ichiki was coming at Gospel from the top, NOT from the bottom. The boat got involved because mr. I am hero guy placed himself at the boat. It's a drone for cripes sakes, if it's running on logic then it wouldn't register the boat as a threat. Ichika was using a sword, not some giant mega particle cannon. |
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2011-03-25, 13:51 | Link #72 | |
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Also, there is no reason to expect the ship to be hit by gospel in this scenario at all, since Ichika's initial position wasn't even aligned to the boat to begin with. Furthermore, if Ichika attacked Gospel during his charge, gospel would be blown to pieces, according to the lore that Byakushiki's attack ignore opponent's shield, therefore dealing direct damage. That would impair Gospel big time, leading to a much easier dispatch for nearly no risk.
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2011-03-25, 13:58 | Link #73 | |
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Even if she was paying attention, she would have been hit anyway, it was a point blank hit with a energy weapon. And Gospel went berserk, it was attacking anything in it's immediate range, the minute the boat was in sight, Gospel was going to attack it.
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2011-03-25, 14:04 | Link #74 | |
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We are talking about the situation that doesn't make any sense whatsoever. The fact she has taken a shot is irrelevant because it happened much later (2 seconds is hell lot for IS considering their velocity as demonstrated by both Ichika and Houki). And I daresay she would arguably not be hit for several reasons: 1) She has an arguably fast acceleration 2) Ichika was about to crash on it BEFORE it could even start attacking (2 seconds gap) Even if she is hit, she wouldn't be taken by surprise and could still lock its movement while Ichika can finish it. Houki had to get away in the episode because she wasn't supported by Ichika one bit There is no frigging way for the ship to be hit. As explained by soldierofdarkness, the boat wasn't a threat, and the damn drone wasn't even aiming at it (if you look at the direction of the projectiles, they were aimed grossly at Ichika, only the stray bullets were barely close to the ship). In fact, the drone started firing "at the boat" because Ichika placed himself this way. Otherwise, the drone didn't even make any motion or aim towards the ocean, thus the boat. The episode was even less subtle about the non existence of the drone "berserk" state: it didn't even start firing at random before Ichika and Houki showed up.
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2011-03-25, 14:10 | Link #75 | |
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And again, being hit in close range, I doubt she could have held on As for the ship, it does not matter if it was a threat, The Gospel went berserk. It would attack anything. As long as the ship was there, it would go after it. Ichika made a split second decision there. Perhaps not the logical one, but if he had made the logical decision, those fishermen would be dead.
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2011-03-25, 14:12 | Link #76 |
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Well seeing gospel I guess he would notice Ichika... blow away houki like he did anyway... avoid ichika who goes from up to down... and simply gospel would shoot particles in the bottom region anyway (since both ichika and houki were placed that way) and that's where the boat is...
gospel is not as stupid as humans... he goes with strategy...instant calculation and such simply like robot :P... he noticed ichika and houki approching him and dodged it easyly... so logically he would notice ichika (who's speed is slower than houki's IS) and again dodge... so nah the plan would fail anyway...but well since the clouds cleared up and the ship was clearly seen ichika acted little stupid and throught that ship will end up in crossfire (like why couldnt houki go for gospel when ichika was playing tenis ?? she could help ichika with it and interrupt gospel with the shoots... but she was handing there and yelling on him than help him) but since gospel was on "rempage" means that he might consider moveing objects as target....well robots are robots... anyway at least next episode will be all girls fighting ^^ |
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There was such a large time gap that most of her damage would be prevented. Again, there was that huge 2 seconds gap before Gospel started counter attacking Houki. 2 seconds, whilst Ichika was already at his dash speed. Quote:
If Houki and Ichika weren't attacked when they were that close, how is it even possible for Gospel to target the boat? That does not make any sense: if Gospel was really berserk, attacking anything on range that was enough to target the boat, then houki and ichika would have been the ONES that ARE attacked! Quote:
And even when Houki is being hit, that adds 2 extra seconds. The way how the anime shows the scene, there was no way for the boat crew to be hit even a single time, period.
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But yeah the anime really failed to do this scene. There really wasn't much justification for what Ichika did unless he now has psychic powers that tell him he would have missed and endangered the ship. Quote:
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2011-03-25, 14:29 | Link #80 | ||
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You forget that Ichika was coming at Gospel from the TOP so even if Gospel opened fire the shots would go UP not DOWN. The boat scene was stupid, if it was a civilian plane or something I would understand. Quote:
In fact, if Ichika's objective was to now protect a stupid boat then like all comic book heroes do you LURE the damn thing away, not jump in the crossfire when it's not even aiming at them. |
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