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Perfect 10 | 3 | 18.75% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 5 | 31.25% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 6 | 37.50% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 1 | 6.25% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 1 | 6.25% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2016-03-21, 04:14 | Link #84 | |
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1. JSDF did a surprise attack, Empire was not ready for it + they are medieval army so gathering large army would take time. 2. They have heavy weapons and such but the problem was that SDF had people inside city. Among them are special forces guys who probably took care that none of that works by the time main force arrive. Well, honestly when you compared the level of technology between the two the scale is about right. xD Also one of the reasons SDF cannot conquer Empire so easily - they lack troops and equipment necessary to do so. |
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2016-03-21, 09:16 | Link #86 | |
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The black lines show territories OBSERVED by the JSDF, not held. The only territory "held" by the JSDF is Alnus hill.
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2016-03-21, 19:52 | Link #87 |
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To me, it is hard to believe that SDF built those star-shaped fortress on multiple places.
It is not like they have some time spare doing that since they entered Special Region. Thinking back what Yanagida said to Itami back in episode 4, I still wonder what is their objective in the Special Region. Lot of people there owed SDF a lot, I don't know about some others if SDF owes them something though. I must say the SDF quite involved in Special Region affairs. It must be hard for the modern world in GATE to believe these kinds of happenings, Alnus Hill, Italica, Elf's territory(forgot the name), Jade Palace, and Empire. Last edited by rladls2121; 2016-03-21 at 21:03. |
2016-03-22, 00:16 | Link #88 |
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^i doubt it, thanks to modern society nowadays things that consider "strange" 10 years ago is now a normal stuff.
We have people who believe alien/elves/vampire etc are real, otaku with their antiques doing cosplay and worshipping a character that is not even exist in this world and any other stuff They probably going "wow" for a couple of months because they finally got to see and touch their fetish come true (bunny girl, elves, angel wing, cat girl, etc) but after that, things probably back to daily routine as usual |
2016-03-22, 01:12 | Link #89 | |
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If there are some people with lot of curiosity to examine its bodies, I don't think they won't stop "wowing" just after a couple of months though. Last edited by rladls2121; 2016-03-22 at 01:22. |
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2016-03-22, 04:16 | Link #90 | |
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And they have been there for quite some time. And with our newest technologies they can set up that kind of base fast ( I mean you have houses today that can be built in few days ). And why star shape? It has been proven in history time and time again that these types of fortresses are hardest to assault and conquer. |
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2016-03-22, 07:27 | Link #91 | |
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I though it just a homage/reference from the author for pentagon building. |
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2016-03-22, 08:43 | Link #92 | |
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The star fort disappeared, once aerial bombardment was invented and the only way to defend yourself is to be entirely underground.
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2016-03-22, 11:33 | Link #93 | |
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2016-03-22, 17:58 | Link #94 | |
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And because enemies in GATE don't have air force ( at least not one that can do a massive ton of damage like hundreds of airplanes can ) star shapes are best to get enemy in crossfire of two opposite walls rather than one. |
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2016-03-22, 19:14 | Link #96 |
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With modern materials it's easy to build and standard military practice today is when you send expeditionary force you must built a base of operations for them.
SDF probably thought that since enemy is medieval level technology fort like base would be much better option and it would take longer for their enemies to overrun it than simple wired bases we have today. That way you can defend entire base with just several hundred troops, unlike 10.000 they used at Alnus Hill battle. |
2016-03-22, 19:23 | Link #97 |
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And the counterpoint was that a base is there to play to your strengths rather than the enemy's hypothetical weaknesses. Artillery defends Arnus base, not the walls. Walls are great for medieval defenders, not modern armies. All walls are doing is run up the costs and sacrifice flexibility.
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2016-03-22, 21:00 | Link #98 |
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That's true.
But they probably play to the card that what if there is no artillery to back them and enemy suddenly attacks with superior numbers? In that scenario mere barbed wires won't be enough to hold down legions of soldiers storming them. And while I agree that walls are not for modern armies as they are more built for speed than entrenchment in this case ( where you fight medieval enemy ) base is ok addition. All strong armies do the same thing today and that is building a base in foreign country. And while it does sacrifice flexibility to a degree - it also offers them strong standpoint ( to which they can always retreat in time of crisis ) that is easily defended while gunships can rotate around it and gun everyone down caught in crossfire. So, when all is added and removed. Building a strong and fortified base in special region is a smart move. The reason why it was build so strong is because they still don't know what is out there in the world and cannot take a risk with building lighter base that can be overwhelmed. |
2016-03-22, 22:00 | Link #99 |
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I'd think the visible fortress would have a better effect on the medieval mind that Alnus was heavily defended, and thus discourage attack.
After all, if the SDF does it right, a modern 21st century defense is camouflaged so well you can't see that its there.
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2016-03-23, 00:05 | Link #100 |
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There's also the fact that the JSDF still has no idea how long the Gate will stay open. If they were suddenly cut off from Japan, they'd eventually run out of resources. Medieval protection against a medieval siege might be necessary.
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