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DazarGaidin · 2008-01-13, 21:45

^ yeah she shot his body thru the door.

Anyone else think hillshire is a completely different character? I mean, he was one of the most uptight guys on the show before now hes almost like jose's college buddy or something.

LemonLimeIntestines · 2008-01-13, 22:00

I saw the first episode. The animation made me feel like something was wrong...it just didn't seem like Gunslinger Girl anymore...

dfens · 2008-01-13, 22:50

Ok I rewatched that scene again, she does shoot him through the door. It makes it look like Triela shot him in the head she should have, better to shoot through a window then a door.

Still the size of the hole in the door was way too big looked like a few shotgun slugs went through the door which we know she didn't have.

This show was rushed plain and simple. Look at all the reviews no one is happy with this season.

Hell if I wasn't such a fan of the series I don't know if I could tolerate this travisty. I guess I'm still happy that my solid work figures finally came in for GSG a full set.

Cal-Reflector · 2008-01-13, 23:17

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Originally Posted by dfens

Ok I rewatched that scene again, she does shoot him through the door. It makes it look like Triela shot him in the head she should have, better to shoot through a window then a door.

Still the size of the hole in the door was way too big looked like a few shotgun slugs went through the door which we know she didn't have.

This show was rushed plain and simple. Look at all the reviews no one is happy with this season.

Hell if I wasn't such a fan of the series I don't know if I could tolerate this travisty. I guess I'm still happy that my solid work figures finally came in for GSG a full set.

Realism in weapons handling and ballistic effects is... well, I don't think its realistic to expect too much out of any anime to address them well when few movies have. Certainly, they couldn't animate the wounding effects realistically if they wanted to sell this to a sizable enough audience.

As for the hole in the door, might have been buckshot rather than regular birdshot, but then I haven't seen for myself how buckshot does against car doors, so yeah.

At least the last guy Triela shot was animated fairly realistically, the size of the wound, the amount of fluid, no John Woo flying back 12 meters but simply collapsing on the spot.

ganbaru · 2008-01-13, 23:44

For me the shoots seem fine.

They must have cut the expence for the animation for this season, I miss the detail of the drawing of the first season, and they stick less to the manga, no .

Proto · 2008-01-13, 23:56

Well... looking at the staff list it'd seem that the mangaka, Yu Aida, is responsible for Series Composition, Screenplay and overall Supervision. As she seems to be actively participating in the second season it shouldn't turn all that bad. At least it is a good sign

Cyz · 2008-01-14, 00:32

I kinda like the animation from the first season better than the new one. The new one makes them look....I don't know more child-like? It doesn't give that serious look as it did from the last season. Anyway....

Spoiler:

LionsMane · 2008-01-14, 02:26

I just finished episode 1 and I don't know how I really feel about it. The animation isn't terrible by any means, obviously it is different from the first season. I wonder if they wanted to give the girls a more innocent look about them.

The first episode honestly felt a little rushed and I feel like the only hook it had for me was that it was the second season of a great a first season. On a stand alone basis I don't know if the first episode would have been good enough for me.

Regardless I still plan to watch in hopes of it getting better. It probably won't be as good as the first season but if it's enjoyable it's good enough for me.

D a m i e n · 2008-01-14, 03:44

Failure!!!

Mashimaro · 2008-01-14, 08:09

I'm happy that there is a second season but.. it's completely different from first season >_< which I prefer.

SuperKnuckles · 2008-01-14, 08:17

I actually prefer the new season's pacing, though not its production quality.

Also, I actually like some of the newer seiyuu choice than previously including the omnipresent Takehito Koyasu.

And to me, Kou Otani never ceases to impress as far as background OSTs go.

As for the gunplay, it was vintage Gunslinger Girls. It surely won't have the noir impact the first season had, but I think the new season will still be pretty fun.

Verist · 2008-01-14, 12:11

Like many of the others, I was a bit let down by Episode 1. As stated the overall quality of the animation was down, but still acceptable. As a Delgados fan prior to the the first series, I have to say that I was disappointed with both the Opening music and I didn't care for the "live action" rotoscoped video. The characters definitely exhibit Moe tendencies, which is all the rage now. I'll continue to watch the series, and reserve my judgment until I've seen more.

ginrai1984 · 2008-01-14, 14:33

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Originally Posted by ProtoMan

Well... looking at the staff list it'd seem that the mangaka, Yu Aida, is responsible for Series Composition, Screenplay and overall Supervision. As she seems to be actively participating in the second season it shouldn't turn all that bad. At least it is a good sign

actually that has never been confirmed i believe and artland relations between mangaka&studio were always bad from the start and seen the actual first ep makes a lot of fans think he isn't involved with the 2nd season(or highly possible the director doesn't want him to be involved).

Proto · 2008-01-14, 15:09

Really? I decided to give it a check at the Japanese Wikipedia entry and the staff page and it'd seem she is still credited for the series supervision, character design and screenplay... well but I dunno anything more than that. Do you have the source where it talks about the in-fighting?

Matrim · 2008-01-14, 15:20

It's quite amazing how just a single episode into the new season I have already made the change from liking Henrietta and Jose to wanting to kill them and burn their bodies. OK, maybe just slap them but still...More blushing and than in the first episode of a random high school moe-themed comedy? WTF?

rg4619 · 2008-01-14, 15:56

Prior to broadcast, Aida spoke a lot about the new show, so he's got to be intimately involved with production as the credits indicate. On his site, he's still backing the series (with a link to the official site), so there's no sign of a falling out.

I've never heard of Artland's issues. However, I do know that Akitaro Daichi (who directed the outstanding Bokura ga Ita for Artland) previously clashed with the author of Fruits Basket.

selkirk · 2008-01-14, 18:09

Episode 2

Spoiler:

All in all, a much better episode than the first episode, but feels somewhat like a generic show about terrorists.

Ichihara Asako · 2008-01-14, 18:13

I really don't mind it. Obviously it's different to the first season, but I still think it's quite enjoyable. I'm going to take it on its own merits and see how it unfolds. It's unfair to condemn it from the first episode.

Forbin · 2008-01-14, 18:25

True, but I just saw first episode.

Triela runs in front of a window and doesn't get shot.
She loads a shotgun but shoots a rifle bullet.
Is that Hillshire? I couldn't tell the different between him and Giose.
Rico too blonde.
When Henrietta went to Giose's door, her face went all distorted.

Man Artland let the realism of this series go to crap.

SuperKnuckles · 2008-01-14, 18:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matrim

It's quite amazing how just a single episode into the new season I have already made the change from liking Henrietta and Jose to wanting to kill them and burn their bodies. OK, maybe just slap them but still...More blushing and than in the first episode of a random high school moe-themed comedy? WTF?

I think it makes sense if Henrietta is really supposed to be the brainwashed killing machine she is. The emphasis on the brainwashing part. I actually didn't really like the old, Heero-Yui Henrietta, so maybe that's why I'm a bit indifferent about it.

Also, I wonder how true is that the newer season is actually a bit more consistent to the manga than the older anime was.

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DazarGaidin There there, Maggie-chan Join Date: Sep 2007	^ yeah she shot his body thru the door. Anyone else think hillshire is a completely different character? I mean, he was one of the most uptight guys on the show before now hes almost like jose's college buddy or something. __________________

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Proto Knowledge is the solution Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 39	Well... looking at the staff list it'd seem that the mangaka, Yu Aida, is responsible for Series Composition, Screenplay and overall Supervision. As she seems to be actively participating in the second season it shouldn't turn all that bad. At least it is a good sign __________________ How to play Japanese games in Linux

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LionsMane Courageous Guardian Join Date: Dec 2006 Age: 34	I just finished episode 1 and I don't know how I really feel about it. The animation isn't terrible by any means, obviously it is different from the first season. I wonder if they wanted to give the girls a more innocent look about them. The first episode honestly felt a little rushed and I feel like the only hook it had for me was that it was the second season of a great a first season. On a stand alone basis I don't know if the first episode would have been good enough for me. Regardless I still plan to watch in hopes of it getting better. It probably won't be as good as the first season but if it's enjoyable it's good enough for me. __________________

2008-01-14, 08:17	Link #211
SuperKnuckles Anime Hobbyist Join Date: Dec 2004	I actually prefer the new season's pacing, though not its production quality. Also, I actually like some of the newer seiyuu choice than previously including the omnipresent Takehito Koyasu. And to me, Kou Otani never ceases to impress as far as background OSTs go. As for the gunplay, it was vintage Gunslinger Girls. It surely won't have the noir impact the first season had, but I think the new season will still be pretty fun. Last edited by SuperKnuckles; 2008-01-14 at 08:31.

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Proto Knowledge is the solution Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 39	Really? I decided to give it a check at the Japanese Wikipedia entry and the staff page and it'd seem she is still credited for the series supervision, character design and screenplay... well but I dunno anything more than that. Do you have the source where it talks about the in-fighting? __________________ How to play Japanese games in Linux

2008-01-13, 22:00	Link #202
LemonLimeIntestines Intestine muncher Join Date: Dec 2007	I saw the first episode. The animation made me feel like something was wrong...it just didn't seem like Gunslinger Girl anymore...

2008-01-13, 22:50	Link #203
dfens Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Ok I rewatched that scene again, she does shoot him through the door. It makes it look like Triela shot him in the head she should have, better to shoot through a window then a door. Still the size of the hole in the door was way too big looked like a few shotgun slugs went through the door which we know she didn't have. This show was rushed plain and simple. Look at all the reviews no one is happy with this season. Hell if I wasn't such a fan of the series I don't know if I could tolerate this travisty. I guess I'm still happy that my solid work figures finally came in for GSG a full set.

2008-01-13, 23:44	Link #205
ganbaru books-eater youkai Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Betweem wisdom and insanity	For me the shoots seem fine. They must have cut the expence for the animation for this season, I miss the detail of the drawing of the first season, and they stick less to the manga, no .

2008-01-14, 03:44	Link #209
D a m i e n permanentely bored Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: France Age: 44	Failure!!!

2008-01-14, 08:09	Link #210
Mashimaro q8D Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ontario	I'm happy that there is a second season but.. it's completely different from first season >_< which I prefer.

2008-01-14, 12:11	Link #212
Verist KDF Kallen Defense Force Join Date: May 2007 Location: Looking for CG Writers email addresses	Like many of the others, I was a bit let down by Episode 1. As stated the overall quality of the animation was down, but still acceptable. As a Delgados fan prior to the the first series, I have to say that I was disappointed with both the Opening music and I didn't care for the "live action" rotoscoped video. The characters definitely exhibit Moe tendencies, which is all the rage now. I'll continue to watch the series, and reserve my judgment until I've seen more.

2008-01-14, 15:20	Link #215
Matrim Naysayer?Fanboy?Wiseacre? Join Date: Dec 2005	It's quite amazing how just a single episode into the new season I have already made the change from liking Henrietta and Jose to wanting to kill them and burn their bodies. OK, maybe just slap them but still...More blushing and than in the first episode of a random high school moe-themed comedy? WTF? __________________ 'The world we live in is always in darkness.' 'Yes, and that is why we seek light.'

2008-01-14, 15:56	Link #216
rg4619 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007	Prior to broadcast, Aida spoke a lot about the new show, so he's got to be intimately involved with production as the credits indicate. On his site, he's still backing the series (with a link to the official site), so there's no sign of a falling out. I've never heard of Artland's issues. However, I do know that Akitaro Daichi (who directed the outstanding Bokura ga Ita for Artland) previously clashed with the author of Fruits Basket.

2008-01-14, 18:09	Link #217
selkirk *y translator Scanlator** Join Date: Jan 2006	Episode 2 Spoiler: No more shaky cam, and in general everything looks a lot better than the first episode. Ep starts off with a young Pinnochio on his first hit, and the animation here is nothing special, it's a lot better than episode 1. Introduction to Pinnochio, Franco, and Franca. Follows the manga pretty closely I'd say Pinnochio's voice is pretty much spot on. Angelica recovers and "just got out of the hospital", but Marco's voice is weird to say the least. We also get to see Rico's MG34. All in all, a much better episode than the first episode, but feels somewhat like a generic show about terrorists. __________________

2008-01-14, 18:13	Link #218
Ichihara Asako Horoist Join Date: Oct 2007	I really don't mind it. Obviously it's different to the first season, but I still think it's quite enjoyable. I'm going to take it on its own merits and see how it unfolds. It's unfair to condemn it from the first episode.

2008-01-14, 18:25	Link #219
Forbin I'm a sucker for Harem Join Date: Aug 2004	True, but I just saw first episode. Triela runs in front of a window and doesn't get shot. She loads a shotgun but shoots a rifle bullet. Is that Hillshire? I couldn't tell the different between him and Giose. Rico too blonde. When Henrietta went to Giose's door, her face went all distorted. Man Artland let the realism of this series go to crap. __________________ My Favorite Anime Quotes Courtesy of Answerman of ANN: 1) By and Large...they are and ***. 2) What kind of girls do Anime Otaku males want? ..................... Female. 3) The odds are good, that the goods are odd.