Super Dimension Fortress Macross discussion thread

[Yot-chan]

Originally Posted by DragoZERO

They should animate Macross the First for the anniversary.

You've seen that story as a TV show...you've seen it as a movie...you're seeing it as a manga now...why tell it a fourth time?

[Lancel]

Originally Posted by Yot-chan

You've seen that story as a TV show...you've seen it as a movie...you're seeing it as a manga now...why tell it a fourth time?

We're just waiting for the live action version to complete the inevitable cycle.

[triangler_fans1]

Originally Posted by Lancel

We're just waiting for the live action version to complete the inevitable cycle.

What? Japanese live action? or American live action?

[CrowKenobi]

Originally Posted by Lancel

We're just waiting for the live action version to complete the inevitable cycle.

Well, IF that happens I sure hope that they will stay closer to the story than the producers of the Space Cruiser Yamato film did.

And redoing SDFM? I'm game for that for the reason of it looking just as (or even better) than MF.

[Tak]

Originally Posted by CrowKenobi

Well, IF that happens I sure hope that they will stay closer to the story than the producers of the Space Cruiser Yamato film did.

TBH, Yamato was actually quite entertaining. It could always be worse, like you know, Dragon Ball Evolution.

Originally Posted by CrowKenobi

And redoing SDFM? I'm game for that for the reason of it looking just as (or even better) than MF.

I am game for a DYRL-remake, just for better graphics and more intense battle-scenes. Macross was made for CGI!

- Tak

[Lancel]

Originally Posted by triangler_fans1

What? Japanese live action? or American live action?

Who knows, but I figure it'll happen one day. If it's American it will probably have stupidly awesome CGI but suck ultimately, mostly because they'll call it Robotech and gut half the story to make room for more CGI. If it's Japanese, dunno, probably depends on how much you liked Space Battleship Yamato (I personally did like it, but I haven't seen the original admittedly). But now this theory is starting to look like an epileptic tree which can only end with SDF-2 appearing in prehistoric times to save Earth from destruction by the descendants of the dinosaurs.

I just hope whichever way it goes they stick to the story and just build upon it. It's great as it is.

Also, please do not make Focker a girl.

[Tak]

Originally Posted by Lancel

Who knows, but I figure it'll happen one day. If it's American it will probably have stupidly awesome CGI but suck ultimately, mostly because they'll call it Robotech and gut half the story to make room for more CGI. If it's Japanese, dunno, probably depends on how much you liked Space Battleship Yamato (I personally did like it, but I haven't seen the original admittedly). But now this theory is starting to look like an epileptic tree which can only end with SDF-2 appearing in prehistoric times to save Earth from destruction by the descendants of the dinosaurs.

An American movie would be pretty predictable in that we will have...

Focker as main character, or Rick Hunter. Hikaru can kiss his arse goodbye, as well as any notable characters with a Japanese name.

Awesomeness of song would be reduced to a side show.

90% focus on CGI-battles, with story rendered to nothing more than an excuse to bring upon said CGI-battles.

Michael Bay is probably going to direct it.

Critics are probably going to hate it.

Box office success.

- Tak

[Lancel]

I would say something about how Hollywood shouldn't do this, but then I remembered I was planning on going to see Battleship just because the concept looked so brain-smackingly ridiculous. Also Battleships.

These days it feels like people only go to the theater to see CGI spectacles. If it doesn't have eye candy like that, they'll wait to get it on DVD, and no one cares about DVD sales.

[magnuskn]

Originally Posted by Yot-chan

You've seen that story as a TV show...you've seen it as a movie...you're seeing it as a manga now...why tell it a fourth time?

Because giant robots in real-life animation look amazing. Well, unless you make the transformations into innumerable parts going "whirrrr-bzzzzz" and the plot is inane, if you catch my drift. But anyway, real life animation FTW!

Man, am I wanting a well-made BattleTech movie.... ^^

Originally Posted by Lancel

I would say something about how Hollywood shouldn't do this, but then I remembered I was planning on going to see Battleship just because the concept looked so brain-smackingly ridiculous. Also Battleships.

These days it feels like people only go to the theater to see CGI spectacles. If it doesn't have eye candy like that, they'll wait to get it on DVD, and no one cares about DVD sales.

I know, right? But on the other hand, giant battleships pounding the crap out of each other. <sigh> I am so easy...

[Yot-chan]

Originally Posted by Tak

TBH, Yamato was actually quite entertaining. It could always be worse, like you know, Dragon Ball Evolution.

I really liked the Yamato movie. Of course, I waited until it was out on DVD and rented it, rather than seeing it in the theater...

Originally Posted by Tak

I am game for a DYRL-remake, just for better graphics and more intense battle-scenes. Macross was made for CGI!

- Tak

Again, DYRL is perfect. No need to recut an already-flawless diamond, is there?

[Tak]

Originally Posted by Yot-chan

Again, DYRL is perfect. No need to recut an already-flawless diamond, is there?

An artist looks at the said diamond, and thinks to himself: Hmm, I should give it a good sketch!

A scientist looks at the said diamond, and thinks to himself: Hmm, what can we do to replicate its perfection?

An engineer looks at the said diamond, and thinks to himself: Hmm, it could use additional-features!

- Tak

[Yot-chan]

Originally Posted by Tak

An artist looks at the said diamond, and thinks to himself: Hmm, I should give it a good sketch!

A scientist looks at the said diamond, and thinks to himself: Hmm, what can we do to replicate its perfection?

An engineer looks at the said diamond, and thinks to himself: Hmm, it could use additional-features!

- Tak

Meanwhile, the person with common sense simply marvels at its beauty, and is content.

[Tak]

Originally Posted by Yot-chan

Meanwhile, the person with common sense simply marvels at its beauty, and is content.

Or until the said individual is offered 200 million dollars to render it into live-action.

- Tak

[Yot-chan]

Originally Posted by Tak

Or until the said individual is offered 200 million dollars to render it into live-action.

- Tak

Okay, you win.

[Lancel]

Originally Posted by Yot-chan

Okay, you win.

Once again, money is victorious.

[raile]

Nobody can trump cold hard cash.

[Lancel]

Originally Posted by raile

Nobody can trump cold hard cash.

An important life lesson as taught by Sheryl.

"Damn shame about Galaxy, but I guess with that government mandate there's nothing we can do for them."
"I'll pay you a hundred million credits to go save them."
"SET A COURSE FOR THE GALAXY FLEET AND SCRAMBLE ALL VALKYRIES!"

[Tempester]

Call me purist, but I'm not thrilled with the idea of any SDF Macross remake. The original is probably the best we could ever get. Sure, the plot can get cheesy, and the animation is honestly terrible on average, but it told its story extremely well, and that is what makes it stand out today. Not to mention a TV remake would probably be squeezed into 25 episodes with most of the epilogue cut out. And they'd probably try to retcon the Zentradi to look hideous again like they did with DYRL.

We already have DYRL and Macross the First, we don't need any more retellings of a story that was so well-done to begin with. There are other anime out there that could use remakes far more than SDF Macross.

[Tak]

Originally Posted by Tempester

We already have DYRL and Macross the First, we don't need any more retellings of a story that was so well-done to begin with. There are other anime out there that could use remakes far more than SDF Macross.

I am in basic agreement with you. I do not believe we need a complete retelling of the story either. Perhaps the word remake is not the right word to use. Rather, I am looking for an update.

The Gundam Zeta movies went through an extensive update. The end result was not perfect, as it was not a complete update but a mixture of new and old. Nonetheless, it pleased the eye.

- Tak

[wisteria233]

Originally Posted by Tak

I am in basic agreement with you. I do not believe we need a complete retelling of the story either. Perhaps the word remake is not the right word to use. Rather, I am looking for an update.

The Gundam Zeta movies went through an extensive update. The end result was not perfect, as it was not a complete update but a mixture of new and old. Nonetheless, it pleased the eye.

- Tak

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On topic:

The only way I'd support a re-make of SDF is if it meant that the franchise was saved for overseas release.