Fate/Zero - Episode 22 Discussion / Poll

[Klashikari]

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[Klashikari]

This episode is basically "the calm before the storm". I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people consider it extremely slow, but it just brings the lasts tidbits of character development and introspection, especially Waver, Kiritsugu and Kirei.

From there, I guess we will have only the best part with the remaining 3 episodes.

[Sheba]

That Iri scene in the end was pretty bone-chilling. Nothing good can come out of it.

[DakkerDB]

Calm before the storm is exactly the right way to describe this episode. So eerie, so foreboding.

Looking forward to seeing it all come to an end in the most glorious fashion imaginable!

[jeroz]

I love the way they do the preview, you can so tell what's going to happen in the upcoming battle...I will cry so hard when that happened.

I wouldn't consider this episode slow myself since by the time i realise it it's the ED.

4 hours before the end, this is going to be one massive finale

Spoiler for this scene:

totally did not expect that. Something sinister is going on in the background that we are not aware of. Something bad is going to happen. Something really bad.

but seriously though

Spoiler for i mean:

can i just take one?

[mAc Chaos]

^that would be a spoiler lol

[blue_sora]

Nooooooo Irisviel my love. I will always miss your sweetness.

Pfft Kiritsugu stop being stubborn and work together with Saber! You have no one else in your team! Iri will be disappointed in you!

Wow they sure making Waver full tsundere mode in this episode. Idiot Waver, at least he stops being so down for being weak.

Oh and they have another typo in the episode number again. That's what you get for flashing the title card at the end .

[jeroz]

oh man, there's one trivia found when wiki Alexander, but that would be spoiler for next episode.....

I'll just say that it's either completely coincidental or Ufotable timed this series so perfectly.

[Xellos-_^]

anyone remember Lancer curse

[hero147]

Irisviel...Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! You will not be forgotten. Hopefully Kiritsugu brings the beat down.

[jorez]

Another epic moment of this show.

The Waver speech to Rider. The execution and the background music was perfect, and it really touched me where it hurts. I was ready to share some tears. I cannot wait for the next episode.

[Malkuth]

The two Iris scenes were beyond perfect

But unfortunately there is also some annoying supporting cast still alive

[Ithekro]

Originally Posted by jorez

Another epic moment of this show.

The Waver speech to Rider. The execution and the background music was perfect, and it really touched me where it hurts. I was ready to share some tears. I cannot wait for the next episode.

Is Waver touching you inappropriately?

[Awrya]

Nice going, Kiritsugu. It is a Holy Grail war where servants are summoned to fight and he never relied on Saber to begin with

I'm wondering where Gilgamesh gets the confidence that Berserker won't finish Saber.

Yes Waver, use the cape of a king to blow your nose
RiderxWaver doujins will multiply after that scene, I can feel it.

I loved the way they animated Irisviel's scene. Being dragged into darkness and then be 'reborn', with her dress reflecting her change.

Gilgamesh vs Iskander, probably one of the most epic fights in fate universe

[GuidoHunter_Toki]

One of my favorite episodes thus far of season 2.

Can't wait to see iskander and Gil fight it off, should be quite the sight.

My favorite scen was between Kotomine and Iri. Such a well done back and forth between them. As Fate/Zero has done well so far,all the big dialogue scenes are so engaging.

[DragoZERO]

Irisviel...

Great episode. Definitely tied up a few loose ends. I can't believe Kirei killed Iri like that. I really hate the current Kotomine Kirei.

This is going to be one hell of a finale.

[Witch of Uncertainty]

Okay, I didn't quite understand

Spoiler:

What's with all the corpses Irisviel saw? Does it have something to do with her being a homonculi? Expendable, maybe? Or is it the grail?
And the hands? Did they belong to anyone in particular? Previous victims of the grail or something? Or maybe just for the creepy-factor?
Last thing; Why does she change like that? Is it because the grail being corrupted?

Was a fairly okay episode, until the end.
A crushing sensation, watching Irisviel there.

[chaos_alfa]

Originally Posted by Witch of Uncertainty

Okay, I didn't quite understand

Spoiler:

What's with all the corpses Irisviel saw? Does it have something to do with her being a homonculi? Expendable, maybe? Or is it the grail?
And the hands? Did they belong to anyone in particular? Previous victims of the grail or something? Or maybe just for the creepy-factor?
Last thing; Why does she change like that? Is it because the grail being corrupted?

Was a fairly okay episode, until the end.
A crushing sensation, watching Irisviel there.

This will probably be explained in the next few episodes.

But I think it has to do with what we learn from the Fate Stay/Night visual novel.
If you want to talk about it you should use the Fate/Zero - Speculation & Theories (for F/SN Game Players) thread.

[ars89]

No damn you Kirei killing Iri like that. Like how Waver used all his command spells to back out, but Rider took him anyway.

[GDB]

So... isn't Waver supposed to have four Command Spells? Risei did say that Rider and Saber's Masters had already claimed their rewards from the Caster battle, didn't he? And Waver hadn't yet used one...