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Shiroth · 2010-01-16, 05:34

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Originally Posted by monir

This show reminds me of Baccano, but I'm sure it has been mentioned more than once over here.

Along with the obvious reasons as to why it would remind you of Baccano.

**Solace** · 2010-01-16, 06:40

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Here is a devious outlook from a different angle which does suit the grim, sobering atmosphere: It's quite possible she is also having (or had) an affair of her own. Also, most hotel in Japan are for those romantic get away. An article surfaced couple of months ago about how Japan's hotel industry was unaffected by the lagging economy. He is having an affair alright.

Fair enough. I guess my thinking was more like giving the situation the benefit of the doubt, however it is true that in the context of the setting and where the show is produced your scenario is more likely. I recently read an article describing the high infidelity rate (which itself covered a pretty wide range of topics) and the pressures Japanese society places on relationships. It's almost a trope in anime where the parents are nonexistent or just work so much they may as well be. Here's a recent Japanese movie that some might find interesting on the subject of family life there Tokyo Sonata.

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There should be more messages like these conveyed to the public in Japan.

I agree. In fact I think the message is strong enough to apply to public outside of Japan. For me personally, it held a lot of meaning.

SMT · 2010-01-16, 06:51

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Battler-kun · 2010-01-16, 07:43

Can't wait more for Izaya's "just as planned".

I want him to screw people around more. I have enough of righteous moral-nagging characters.
Really disturbing.

I hope the author doesn't screw his character.

Lacrimosa · 2010-01-16, 08:35

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Originally Posted by Shiroth

Yeah they were, by me.

My baaaad. xD Didn't see the last one posted though, I think.

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So that lingering flashing text at the end of that miracle, "the world isn't as difficult as you preceive it to be" was just....... well, it hit the spot.

I agree, big time. I was actually feeling really shitty while watching the episode, so that part at the ending.. really hit me. <.<; Actually made me feel quite a bit better! haha

karice67 · 2010-01-16, 09:02

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Originally Posted by KOapps

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Oh, I do like this one (^____^) Can I use it elsewhere?

About that message "The world isn't as bad as you think it to be"... I do agree it is important that more Japanese hear and actually take heed of this kind of message, but the problems that give rise to their depressing thoughts (for the relevant people) are often a lot deeper than mere words can dispel.

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Originally Posted by Solace

I recently read an article describing the high infidelity rate (which itself covered a pretty wide range of topics) and the pressures Japanese society places on relationships. It's almost a trope in anime where the parents are nonexistent or just work so much they may as well be.

Do you have a link to this article? I'd like to read it if I can.

Also...a trope in anime? It's reality for a good proportion of kids, at least in terms of their fathers. Most of the kids/students I know don't spend much time with their families.

Azuma Denton · 2010-01-16, 09:19

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Yeah i really liked her design, plus her character in this episode. I still think she can be in this show even though she's not in the OP, though her story has kinda been and gone now. I don't see what role she can play now, apart from being a friend.

She does appear in the OP...
Watch the scene in OP where Simon is introduced...
You'll see Rio walking past Simon...

SMT · 2010-01-16, 09:23

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Originally Posted by karice67

Oh, I do like this one (^____^) Can I use it elsewhere?

No problem, just use it.

Shiroth · 2010-01-16, 10:28

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Originally Posted by Azuma Denton

She does appear in the OP...
Watch the scene in OP where Simon is introduced...
You'll see Rio walking past Simon...

You know what i meant.

SeijiSensei · 2010-01-16, 11:05

Like with Baccano!, I enjoyed this episode much more than the first, but then I'd much rather watch a show with strong characterizations than "action."

I thought the photograph of the father and his mistress entering a hotel together pretty much sealed the deal as to whether they were having an affair. Her mother's reaction was also pretty understandable, though we don't know went on between them behind closed doors. Nor do we know whether the father broke off the relationship. Rio doesn't seem to consider the possibility that the photographs might be of events that took place in the past and nay have already been resolved between her parents.

My only real disappointment is that it's yet another show about teenagers and angst. Baccano! was a breath of fresh air in that all of its main characters were adults (even if they didn't always look it). I'll still watch this show as long as the writing remains at the same high level.

For software junkies, the email program being used in one scene is Mozilla Thunderbird (my email client of choice as well.)

I also discovered the answer to my earlier question about where the Brains-Base logo appears during the ED; it's on a billboard at the very beginning of the sequence.

On a related note, just this morning I opened an email for Tokyopop about a new manga series named Orange whose main character is, you guessed it, a depressed teenage girl contemplating suicide.

Spoiler for Orange synopsis from its website:

DragoonKain3 · 2010-01-16, 11:40

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Originally Posted by Terrestrial Dream

It is praiseworthy fact that they used those scenes very effectively.

The art on the otherhand is not praiseworthy, at least during those scenes.

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And you keep saying as if nothing important or meaningful happened in the repeating scenes.

Putting words in my mouth much? I never said anything remotely close to that, that nothing important or meaningful happened in those scenes. You're reading too much in between the lines.

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If those 3 mins were pure flashback then I would agree with you, but they weren't.

But I'm not complaining about it being 'flashback' or not.

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Also how are the narration besides the point? They were part of the scenes and can't be ignored.

You really don't get it do you? I'm not complaining about the narration, or the scene itself. For the umpteenth time, I'm complaining about the art being reused. Apples and oranges, much? Just like you can have an overall great fruit bowl, you can still say 'oh the grapes are rotten' in order to point out the individual flaws. Just because all the rest of fruits was awesome doesn't mean I'm going to ignore that big flaw that was the grapes.

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Also you keep talking about 1/8 and 12.5% to make it seem like it was a huge chunk.

Uhh, it is a huge chunk. If you don't think it is, then we're not going to reach an agreement here. We already have 3 mins 'wasted' on reused animation for the OP+ED (which I can tolerate, since its easy to skip over those), I don't want another 3 mins of stuff I've seen already, thank you very much.

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But those were very short moments and there were some new scenes between and also the fact that there were interval with new scenes, which didn't resulted in 3mins of pure repetition.

Still doesn't change the fact that it was 3 mins of recycled footage. You can sugar coat it all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that they could've animated it a new way.

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Those were very short scenes and I saw plenty of animes with flashback like those, but yet I have never seen people complaining about it.

stuopidget at the very least shares my views, as s/he said that they used too much recycled footage after the OP.

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So I don't see why those very short scenes should be complained.

Same reason why I hate mecha shows that recycle footage about the protagonists downing the grunts. I'm watching anime partly for art, and seeing a big chunk of it repeated really grates my nerves. It's the same reason why people complain about very long still shots in other anime that pretty much abuse it, EVEN THOUGH that scene still was 'meaningful' in some sort of way.

Take Bakemonogatori for example. For all its strength in story telling, there were still people who didn't like the art style because the director used way too many still shots. Same thing here... I don't like the art style here during those 3 mins because the director used way too many recycled footage, despite me thinking the story is still great and all.

Auria · 2010-01-16, 13:43

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Can't wait more for Izaya's "just as planned".

I want him to screw people around more.

my words

you can find me in the izaya fangirl section then.

Just looved the second episode, narration by Sawashiro was right on..

Terrestrial Dream · 2010-01-16, 14:22

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