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Lost · 2006-10-16, 12:05

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Originally Posted by ImClueless

Therefore, weak nerdy geeky males in the audience can relate to the nerdy geeky males in the show and fantasize more easily about the females in the show.

Why do I suddenly feel naked...

TnAdct1 · 2006-10-16, 12:29

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Originally Posted by ImClueless

Oh wait just realized that Momoko used a Limit Break attack. That must be copyrighted by SquareEnix and thats why they are credited at the begining.

Actually, the SqaureEnix credit is due to the fact that Sumomomo Momomo is based on a comic that originally appeared in magazine published by SquareEnix.

Levski · 2006-10-16, 13:35

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Originally Posted by ImClueless

Well weak male protagonists in series like these are in direct response to the audience.

Who watches anime? => Primarily males
What do males want? => Sex
What kind of males watch anime? => Many kinds, but a large proportion of them are nerdy/geeky types.

Therefore, weak nerdy geeky males in the audience can relate to the nerdy geeky males in the show and fantasize more easily about the females in the show. Im sure this has all been discussed before.

I am not geeky or weak. I have a brand new Mercedes, a big house, a 25 year old wife, and a wang that spans a whole 11 inches... screw you

Kaoru Chujo · 2006-10-16, 13:40

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Originally Posted by Karnot

I am not voting against VA discussions, i am simply against nonsensical people who go : "ZOMG !!! Hirano Aya !! Suzumiya Haruhi is my goddess !!!!".

I really liked the way you put it in your original post. You were just expressing an opinion, and quite effectively. And it gave me a chance to talk about (and think about) why I like Hirano Aya's work. Personally, I'm finding out how much fun Japanese-style seiyuu-worship can be, lol. Check out the "seiyuu gallery" in my sig for more.

I give a lot of leeway to opponents of SHnY. I think it's one of the best shows ever, but I can totally understand how all the hype would alienate someone who didn't agree.

ImClueless · 2006-10-16, 13:46

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Originally Posted by Levski

I am not geeky or weak. I have a brand new Mercedes, a big house, a 25 year old wife, and a wang that spans a whole 11 inches... screw you

Well I wasn't refering to anyone specifically, so theres no need to get riled up. As to your claims really none of those factors affect whether or not you are weak geeky and nerdy.

NeoSam · 2006-10-16, 15:27

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Originally Posted by TnAdct1

Actually, the SqaureEnix credit is due to the fact that Sumomomo Momomo is based on a comic that originally appeared in magazine published by SquareEnix.

Yeah its serialized in Square Enix's seinen magazine Young GanGan.
Here is the cover of one of the issues:

Bi-weekly seinen manga magazine.

Potatochobit · 2006-10-16, 15:38

oh my, that is nice.

Deathkillz · 2006-10-16, 19:22

omg after a rewatch with the subs the start of the first ep did actually show quite a bit of "sexual referrences"

momoko's dad: "you must marry the stongest man and have the strongest child!"
momoko : "alright!"
song kicks in : lets engage in child production...
man that part had me in some serious stitches XD

Lilith · 2006-10-16, 23:31

Hahaha same here, Deathkillz. The fansub had notes that in the anime they changed some sentances to suit TV audience, I guess this is one of them.

i0td · 2006-10-16, 23:44

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Originally Posted by Deathkillz

omg after a rewatch with the subs the start of the first ep did actually show quite a bit of "sexual referrences"

momoko's dad: "you must marry the stongest man and have the strongest child!"
momoko : "alright!"
song kicks in : lets engage in child production...
man that part had me in some serious stitches XD

Actually it's probably sprinkled all throughout the entire first episode lol. Every time Momoko talks about making a child or even hints at it, I get the feeling that the fansubbers have toned down the language a bit. I can't confirm this, because my Japanese is limited, but with a series like this one, I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case.

Oh yeh, you've quote my two favorite lines of the series so far. As simple as it may sound, those two lines set up the entire ridiculous scenario for the show lol

SinsI · 2006-10-17, 06:45

According to Megami notes, it's the animators that toned down the manga, changing "Please, have sex with me" to "Please, go to bed with me".

Vexx · 2006-10-17, 10:20

Aye.. the translation is fairly onbase.... its the original dialog that has been sanitized a bit (once again we "thank" our protective Japanese S&P censors who seem more worried about that sort of thing than spleens and guts spraying across the scene like their American counterparts).

Deathkillz · 2006-10-17, 10:25

aye but you cnt really put such strong words into ppl with innocent minds watching this

pushing the boundaries too far would get you into trouble so its nice that the subbers are playing it safe ^_^ plus if you really want the meaning im sure our dirty minds can think of something lol...

Lilith · 2006-10-17, 10:26

Ahhh, so that's the case. Sorry for misunderstanding. ^^;;

And what Deathkillz said.

Vexx · 2006-10-17, 11:12

People with innocent minds shouldn't be watching this? They should be watching Winnie the Pooh

... unless of course they're wanting to be enlightened in a comedic way

Srin Tuar · 2006-10-17, 11:42

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Originally Posted by SinsI

According to Megami notes, it's the animators that toned down the manga, changing "Please, have sex with me" to "Please, go to bed with me".

The word I heard was "契り" substituted in for セックス.

According to dictionary.goo.ne.jp, meaning (2) seems to be the sense she was using:

ちぎり 3 0 【契り】

〔動詞「ちぎる」の連用形から〕
(2)男女が肉体関係をもつこと。

- a physical relationship between a man and a woman.

So its the same meaning, but they moved to a more advanced dialog that has alternate primary meanings (to vow, promise, etc). Its definitely a way to soften the dialog down, imo.

I'm somewhat surprised that the Gairaigo "sekkusu" is perceived as explicit/vulgar in Japanese even

Potatochobit · 2006-10-17, 11:47

eh, its not a bad thing. you dont have to be vulgar to be humorous. i think it all depends on the voice acting and the facial expressions.

aliensporebomb · 2006-10-17, 11:59

It's actually funnier if she says things like "let's engage in child production", it
sounds like she wants to set up a factory or something - it's so absurd and the
reactions from the male protagonist are hilarious.

And the bit about being the "strongest fiance'" was utterly terrifying.

martino · 2006-10-17, 13:15

"Let's make babies"

Sounds just like my friend when making jokes...oh dear, he would love this series.

Vexx · 2006-10-17, 16:09

After watching a few episodes, this had me laughing my head off.... and I think I'll have to store it in the same deep dark place I put Dokura-chan (which damn near had my son's girlfriend thinking I was too scary to be around... but I dosed her with Ichigo Mashimaru and she's fine now

).

Nothing like a basic no-nonsense yet completely insane plot line... heh.

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Lilith Your average fangirl Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: U.A.E. - Dubai Age: 37	Hahaha same here, Deathkillz. The fansub had notes that in the anime they changed some sentances to suit TV audience, I guess this is one of them. __________________ I realized I have too many interests/ideas/emotions to convey in one sig. Last edited by Lilith; 2006-10-16 at 23:42. Reason: ...

2006-10-17, 10:20	Link #92
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	Aye.. the translation is fairly onbase.... its the original dialog that has been sanitized a bit (once again we "thank" our protective Japanese S&P censors who seem more worried about that sort of thing than spleens and guts spraying across the scene like their American counterparts). __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2006-10-17, 10:25	Link #93
Deathkillz ~ You're dead ^__^* ~ Graphic Designer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: uk, England Age: 34	aye but you cnt really put such strong words into ppl with innocent minds watching this pushing the boundaries too far would get you into trouble so its nice that the subbers are playing it safe ^_^ plus if you really want the meaning im sure our dirty minds can think of something lol... __________________ Siggy: hohohohoho~ \| AnimeHistory welcome to our blog ~ \| Summer2009 early review Under the radar series Summer2009: Kanamemo, GA Geijutsuka Art, NEEDLESS

2006-10-17, 10:26	Link #94
Lilith Your average fangirl Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: U.A.E. - Dubai Age: 37	Ahhh, so that's the case. Sorry for misunderstanding. ^^;; And what Deathkillz said. __________________ I realized I have too many interests/ideas/emotions to convey in one sig.

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Potatochobit Certified Organic Join Date: Dec 2005	oh my, that is nice.

2006-10-17, 06:45	Link #91
SinsI Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006	According to Megami notes, it's the animators that toned down the manga, changing "Please, have sex with me" to "Please, go to bed with me".

2006-10-17, 11:12	Link #95
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	People with innocent minds shouldn't be watching this? They should be watching Winnie the Pooh ... unless of course they're wanting to be enlightened in a comedic way __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2006-10-17, 11:47	Link #97
Potatochobit Certified Organic Join Date: Dec 2005	eh, its not a bad thing. you dont have to be vulgar to be humorous. i think it all depends on the voice acting and the facial expressions.

2006-10-17, 11:59	Link #98
aliensporebomb Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: mpls, mn, usa, urth	It's actually funnier if she says things like "let's engage in child production", it sounds like she wants to set up a factory or something - it's so absurd and the reactions from the male protagonist are hilarious. And the bit about being the "strongest fiance'" was utterly terrifying. __________________ asb web: http://madsound.dyndns.org/

2006-10-17, 13:15	Link #99
martino makes no files now Join Date: May 2006	"Let's make babies" Sounds just like my friend when making jokes...oh dear, he would love this series. __________________ "Light and shadow don't battle each other, because they're two sides of the same coin"

2006-10-17, 16:09	Link #100
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	After watching a few episodes, this had me laughing my head off.... and I think I'll have to store it in the same deep dark place I put Dokura-chan (which damn near had my son's girlfriend thinking I was too scary to be around... but I dosed her with Ichigo Mashimaru and she's fine now ). Nothing like a basic no-nonsense yet completely insane plot line... heh. __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!