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2009-02-11, 18:28 | Link #1562 | |
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2009-02-11, 18:37 | Link #1564 |
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@Lace: Respect does not equal silence...
There's a huge difference between "forcing" or "peer pressure" and a civil discussion about different viewpoints. Hypothetical: you encounter a religion that promotes racism and slavery, promotes the idea they are superior to non-believers and its ok to treat them poorly. Do you "respect" that religion? If so, what actions constitute "respect"? Oh, and atheists and agnostics believe they have gardens too... you're just not seeing them (just like they may not see your garden).
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2009-02-11, 18:39 | Link #1565 | |
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what i don't get is why is there so many churches because i thought one or two would be enough to satisfy everyone i'm called an atheist because that is what people are called if they don't believe in something, If this is a religion then shouldn't we have a church ourselves? but i think about it and say that we don't need a church or anything of the sort i recycle the paper... into a crumbled paper ball for my cat to play with |
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2009-02-11, 18:51 | Link #1567 |
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I'll recommend you read up on atheistic thought before you dismiss it. Start with the Wiki on atheism. If you have a strong stomach you might try some writings by evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins (though he's pretty staunch and pointed - he has turned into an evangelist of sorts in response to anti-science fundamentalism).
More people are actually "agnostic" as in they don't see any way to know the Big Picture or about an afterlife. This thread is supposed to be more about expressing beliefs than attacking other beliefs. .... so just to keep things open, I'll repeat an earlier post: I practice a pragmatic sort of Buddhism and find Shinto's animism an amusing comfortable way to view the world though its really just window-dressing for an underlying analytical science protocol. At this point, some people get confused and just label me a 'humanist' or a 'pagan' so they can stop thinking about it. I do encourage following those links. You really can't disagree with something unless you have some knowledge of it.
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2009-02-11, 19:10 | Link #1568 | |
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I have a loth of faith in my family and friends; And I also happen to have hopes and dreams for the future. And yes, I also have a garden of flowers in front of my house.
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2009-02-11, 19:16 | Link #1569 | |||
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I personally don't believe in god, although I don't think the question is provable either way.
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2009-02-11, 19:47 | Link #1570 | |
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Atheists have the exact same thing that religious people have: the truth. They have a way of interpreting the world. It just happens to not involve any gods. Or maybe I'm just completely misunderstanding the point of religion. That's very possible.
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2009-02-11, 19:59 | Link #1571 | |
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Atheism is a lack of belief, or disbelief in deities. It doesn't address anything else. You can believe in aliens, miracles, bigfoot, clairvoyance, karma or anything you feel like and still call yourself an atheist, so long as you don't hold a belief in god(s). Personally, I'm a skeptic/naturalist, but that doesn't apply to all atheists by any stretch of the imagination.
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2009-02-11, 22:12 | Link #1573 |
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We have hopes and dreams just like everybody else. and just like everybody else, our reasons for our belief or lack their of vary between each individual person. Please try to remember Atheist's are human, we are just like everybody else except we don't go to church or believe in a higher being.
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2009-02-11, 23:26 | Link #1575 |
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Every single human being has a belief system, a philosophy of life, regardless of who they are. Sometimes, even science itself becomes its own religion as well. Religion to me is not a belief in God or a higher being, but rather the manifestation of our consciousness. Our beliefs shape the way we live and the way we perceive the universe.
Every human being has a consciousness, and that consciousness is enclosed by a mold. Some molds are more rigid than others, some are very malleable, and some are solid as a rock. That mold is made of ego; depending on how strong that ego is so is the mold that holds your consciousness. To answer the question of the topic, I don't really fit into any category, but the closest would be that I am an agnostic. I consider that having any system of belief, such as religion, money, science, astrology... etc, will only limit the growth of the self. Balance is the key. A belief is like a lit house in the middle of darkness; how well built and lit that house is is only relative to how expandable the mold that holds it is. There are very few people who refuse to build a house to shield themselves from darkness. Most of us seek security and certainty, this is why pray, we study and we struggle. However, security and certainty are only illusions. This is why some individuals choose to navigate through the darkness to nothing to hold on to but a candle. We should all replace beliefs for convictions, only then we can leave our egos behind and accelerate the growth of our consciousness. ------ Enough rant, but I hope I got my point across while staying on topic Last edited by Sugetsu; 2009-02-12 at 01:29. |
2009-02-12, 01:01 | Link #1576 | |
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Simply put. Atheism is a logical conclusion that a person arrives at there is no deity (no its not a religion). Its a nonbelief rather than a disbelief in your particular version of God. And that's all there is to it. Most of the negative stigma people have on atheists are just woo woo. |
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2009-02-12, 01:18 | Link #1577 | |
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2009-02-12, 01:44 | Link #1578 | |
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Honestly, most of the Atheist that I've met and heard of from my acquaintance are rude who think they're right and cocky about their view of Gods, but they're teenangers so they're immature I guess. |
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2009-02-12, 01:58 | Link #1579 | |
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