2012-03-14, 21:44 | Link #4081 | |
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Can you picture how much he suffered? If he didn't do evil, he couldn't feel anything. If he did evil, part of him hated himself because it was against common sense. Zouken even mocked him because he would never get normal sense of happiness and fit in society. Ouch. Small wonder why he just wants to know why it had to be this way. Just that: why. If was a typical villain who never struggled over two decades or agony trying to be a good boy, I wouldn't have any sympathy, but Kirei tried his very, very best to change himself to the point of masochism. But it didn't work out. Hell, it took the King of Heroes + the death of someone very important + The Grail spelling it aloud for him to embrace it a little.
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2012-03-15, 05:30 | Link #4083 |
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I think he meant Sakura was a different type of love than Saber and Rin. Saber and Rin's love is more like the regular kind, but Sakura's love shows the dark side of it.
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2012-03-15, 19:54 | Link #4084 | ||
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There is nothing Shirou could do but kill Kotomine. He is simply incapable of living in any way but by being evil. Sakura, on the other hand, could be turned back into her normal self and live a normal life as a fundamentally good person. Quote:
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2012-03-16, 04:21 | Link #4086 |
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Well that's half what Urobuchi said:
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Though I think what chaos_alfa meant was "cynical": Overall, that type of love is more cynical because it expresses more dark sides.
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2012-03-16, 10:52 | Link #4087 |
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There really isn't a "normal" type of love. From what they said it more seems to me to be showcasing the "bumps in the road of love" with Sakura, while highlighting the magic of courtship with Saber and Rin. For Sakura and Shirou, they *both* have to accept things they cannot change but moved through it with love, Shirou knowing there are wounds.he might not be able to heal for Sakura and vice-versa. The tragedy of knowing you might not be able to shield your loved one from pain, no matter how much you wish to. Urobuchi was pretty much being the cynical one when he added in "the dark side that all women have" part, because that is irrelevant, since all people have dark sides..
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2012-06-27, 11:33 | Link #4088 |
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Ok, guy's I'll apologize in advance for breaking topic.
But there's this troll that's been bugging me for a week and I just want to get your opinion on this.Let me just state that I have no doubt's on this matter since it's ratter obvious, but this has me at my limit(Patience). Is Gilgamesh the strongest servant(so far) in the Holy Grail Wars, this includes Fate,UBW,HF, HA and Zero. And pretty much F/SN verse in general. I personally know he is but this Jackass has been blowing his horn for awhile saying that "Saber with Avalon can beat anybody" is the stupidest shit.Ever.I'm really doubting his intelligence. UPDATE:Yup he's a troll this is the comments section btw.Not sure if you guys could live through that...READ AT YOUR OWN RISK. Troll is Mr. Freeze. I really want to punch that Kid. |
2012-06-27, 11:36 | Link #4090 |
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http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=435277
Here read this. It should make it pretty clear who's the strongest servant. |
2012-06-27, 11:43 | Link #4091 |
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Gilgamesh can beat anyone if he's serious.
He's just never serious. The other characters can still all win, though. A lot of the power in Fate is conditional. It's all "this guy is invincible EXCEPT" loophole type things. So if they managed to play their cards right and get into an advantageous situation they could win. But Gilgamesh would never let them if he was serious. |
2012-06-27, 12:25 | Link #4092 |
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That's what I was saying(or at least trying to get across)But that idiot kept spewing nonsense.
I'm not replying him anymore but he'll just keep trolling...ugh...is so annoying. I'm going to let it go though...it's not worth wasting my time over.
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2012-06-27, 13:18 | Link #4095 |
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I don't know which was my first comment but I was "sure" it would have been my last...too bad I didn't think I would've meet some one who's only seen the anime and movie. He literally took everything that happened in there as unshakable cannon. That and I have a short temper, but a lot of patience...deadly combination.
I guess I'm kinda easy to lure...
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2012-06-27, 14:31 | Link #4096 | |
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Avalon is indeed very powerful, and can hold off Enuma Elish. However, at the end of the day, it is but a defensive Noble Phantasm. In the Fate Route, Gilgamesh was pretty much stunned by the fact that something actually held off Ea. That pause and hesitation gave Sabre a good window to Excalibur him in the face. Strongest Servat, no doubt. But Gilgamesh will die to women and children, because Nasu said so. |
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2012-06-27, 15:52 | Link #4097 | |
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2012-06-27, 16:14 | Link #4098 | |
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Eating, sleeping, and working are over-rated. |
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