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***Pellissier*** · 2007-12-06, 05:08

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UltimaWolf · 2007-12-06, 07:02

Can't wait to find out what happens in this episode, looks like a good one.

newby · 2007-12-06, 10:12

yeap me too..i cant wait!

minhtam1638 · 2007-12-06, 11:36

After being spoiled for Novel 16, I'm too scared to watch the rest of the series knowing the epic climax...

I'll still be watching it though.

ashlay · 2007-12-06, 11:55

Khamsin's back! ^_^

episode starts right off where we left it last time. Yuji's as stupid as ever regarding all matters concerning himself, as he doesn't realize a thing till Shana tells him to look. I like the fact that Yuji is starting to bug out somewhat about his own identity though.

Konoe and her bracelet comes up again...in fact the entire scene with her and the butler ends up being very odd because of the utter silence. I don't really mind them leaving this subplot hanging, but I do hope they don't leave this till the end of the season. oh, and very pleased with Shana NOT regressing into jealously with Yoshida. Her yelling at Yuji to do his best made it still feel in character too. Anyway, Kantarou ends up being a good guy, and Chigusa and him make a nice pair. Think he actually has the same voice actor as that short lived Tomogara Kasha back in episode 3.

but for those of you not interested in that, like I said, last minute or so is Khamsin and Wilhelmina meeting up in Paris, and Khamsin revealing some more info about Pheles.

next week the uniforms change back to fall/winter versions, and Wilhelmina seems to return to Japan. this next week or two should be wonderful.

piku · 2007-12-06, 13:04

compare with the last epidode and#7... no doubt for my worry about the drawing style of S2 (not that bad as 'cabbage' though...).
looking for some improvement in the follow episodes.

kantaro's part and school sences were insipid compare with the last 4 episode and the original novels. cannot wait for battle between pheles and margery and wilhelmina. it will be more interesting for wilhelmina telling story about pheles and johan in next episode.

original ending for S2 is a must... as the novel seems not end at March 2008, according to some information from official. in my point of view, we can just wait for S3 or something...

S2 will be hold at 12/27 and 1/3 for new year break, will come back on 1/10.

and the seiyu of Kantaro: Keiji Fujiwara (the same as crayon shin chan's father...)

Kyuusaisha · 2007-12-06, 17:29

Original endings almost always fail HARD, I mean just look at Claymore. Anyway a good episode although the animation quality dropped by alot it was still good.

PhantomX · 2007-12-06, 17:39

They don't necessarily have to have an original ending if they decide to do a third season. They could always end it on a cliffhanger... personally I think it would be awful yet awesome at the same time :P

Tokkan · 2007-12-06, 19:18

I think Shana should be glad she isn't Juliet. Romeo and Juliet committed suicide, remember? I guess that's some form of symbolism, that any relationship between Yuji and Kazumi is doomed at the chance of ever happening. Though, this episode feels more like one of the school episodes from season 1 than any of the ones from season 2, so I'm wondering about whether or not people are going to come in and complain about this episode.

ThoHell · 2007-12-06, 19:40

Hm, interesting interesting. Can't wait to see how things play out, so many conflicting things arising. I sense internal friendship fighting in the future and preview for 11 looks interesting as well. Yuji is a bundle of mysteries all in oner.

UltimaWolf · 2007-12-06, 22:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by minhtam2448

After being spoiled for Novel 16, I'm too scared to watch the rest of the series knowing the epic climax...

I'll still be watching it though.

Me too

Spoilers are hard to stay away from.

But I still can't wait to see how it all unfolds!

serenade_beta · 2007-12-06, 22:34

Spoiler for ep10:

PhantomX · 2007-12-06, 23:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokkan

I think Shana should be glad she isn't Juliet. Romeo and Juliet committed suicide, remember? I guess that's some form of symbolism, that any relationship between Yuji and Kazumi is doomed at the chance of ever happening. Though, this episode feels more like one of the school episodes from season 1 than any of the ones from season 2, so I'm wondering about whether or not people are going to come in and complain about this episode.

The big difference is that this actually has some revelations with regards to plot, and isn't purely angst/filler :\

newby · 2007-12-07, 00:08

yea this episode is nice. shana matured! lol =x

Deathkillz · 2007-12-07, 09:33

Spoiler:

grey_moon · 2007-12-07, 11:42

@DK - You just answered the thing that has been niggling me about Shana. I totally agree with you!

Kinny Riddle · 2007-12-07, 11:54

Firstly, JC STAFF, YOUR ANIMATION IS SH!TE TODAY!!!

There, that's off my shoulders.

Anyway, the only highlight has to be Yuji's old man, Kantarou. Since that is taken directly from novel volume 9.

Fujiwara Keiji (Maes Hughes in Fullmetal Alchemist, Aizawa the Afro detective in Death Note and Hanamoto-sensei in Honey & Clover) is an excellent choice as Kantarou, he's got that air of laid back, yet mature personality in his voice. Plus he's worked with Kugimiya Rie (FMA) and Kawasumi Ayako (Nodame Cantabile) before, so he has no problem interacting with them in the scene where Kantarou cross-examines his future daughter-in-laws.

It's been a while since we've seen Khamshin, and it's really a rare sight to behold to see Wilhelmina look so distressed at hearing what Khamshin had to say. Probably the first time we've seen her look so insecure.

HayashiTakara · 2007-12-07, 16:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deathkillz

Spoiler:

Its called character growth, maybe? haha , j/p... but, I do miss her triple urusai's

Deathkillz · 2007-12-07, 16:46

^ her character design also showed her to have grown a few years

still doesnt justify her change in personality so much goddam >.>

also noticed that S1 has more of a plot than what we are shown now...

"boss shows up" "gets his ass kicked" "next one comes"

now it's just...

...

bleh >_<

HayashiTakara · 2007-12-07, 16:52

I find it refreshing really.. Its much better than those anime girls that are consistantly abusive towards the male lead until they solidify their relationship (ie confession)... I like seeing the girl taking the step to make the guy like them, rather than be abusive cause he's paying attention to another girl.

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2007-12-06, 07:02	Link #2
UltimaWolf ~Nani...?~ Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: ~Bleh~	Can't wait to find out what happens in this episode, looks like a good one. __________________

2007-12-06, 11:55	Link #5
ashlay the red string of fate Join Date: Jan 2007	Khamsin's back! ^_^ episode starts right off where we left it last time. Yuji's as stupid as ever regarding all matters concerning himself, as he doesn't realize a thing till Shana tells him to look. I like the fact that Yuji is starting to bug out somewhat about his own identity though. Konoe and her bracelet comes up again...in fact the entire scene with her and the butler ends up being very odd because of the utter silence. I don't really mind them leaving this subplot hanging, but I do hope they don't leave this till the end of the season. oh, and very pleased with Shana NOT regressing into jealously with Yoshida. Her yelling at Yuji to do his best made it still feel in character too. Anyway, Kantarou ends up being a good guy, and Chigusa and him make a nice pair. Think he actually has the same voice actor as that short lived Tomogara Kasha back in episode 3. but for those of you not interested in that, like I said, last minute or so is Khamsin and Wilhelmina meeting up in Paris, and Khamsin revealing some more info about Pheles. next week the uniforms change back to fall/winter versions, and Wilhelmina seems to return to Japan. this next week or two should be wonderful. Last edited by ashlay; 2007-12-06 at 12:53.

2007-12-06, 13:04	Link #6
piku Wilhelmina Carmel my love Join Date: Jul 2006	compare with the last epidode and#7... no doubt for my worry about the drawing style of S2 (not that bad as 'cabbage' though...). looking for some improvement in the follow episodes. kantaro's part and school sences were insipid compare with the last 4 episode and the original novels. cannot wait for battle between pheles and margery and wilhelmina. it will be more interesting for wilhelmina telling story about pheles and johan in next episode. original ending for S2 is a must... as the novel seems not end at March 2008, according to some information from official. in my point of view, we can just wait for S3 or something... S2 will be hold at 12/27 and 1/3 for new year break, will come back on 1/10. and the seiyu of Kantaro: Keiji Fujiwara (the same as crayon shin chan's father...) __________________

2007-12-06, 22:34	Link #12
serenade_beta そのおっぱいで13才 Join Date: Dec 2006	Spoiler for ep10: Back to everyday life (I like it ). More "suspicious" scenes of Fumina and Jiiya, I wonder what... Kazumi and Shana are suddenly getting a lot more friendly with each other, and their love "deepens". Kazumi gets to be Juliet (symbolism?). Kantaro wasn't really all that exciting. All he did was give some love advice that isn't all that interesting... Pheles, more is revealed... Kahmshin is back, though it's not like I care. Random thoughts: -Sakai parents got married as students... Huh... -Weird faces occasionally -Wow... Kantaro drank the whole glass without moving his mouth... Preview - Ooh! Pheles and Johann! And the festival preparation. __________________ -Blog --> http://tdnshumi.blogspot.com/ (Mainly about video games) -R.I.P. Hiroshi Yamauchi, Gaming wouldn't have been the same without you (9/19/13)

2007-12-06, 10:12	Link #3
newby Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Singapore	yeap me too..i cant wait!

2007-12-06, 11:36	Link #4
minhtam1638 Missing In Action Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bridgeport, CT Age: 34	After being spoiled for Novel 16, I'm too scared to watch the rest of the series knowing the epic climax... I'll still be watching it though.

2007-12-06, 17:29	Link #7
Kyuusaisha Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sweden Age: 32	Original endings almost always fail HARD, I mean just look at Claymore. Anyway a good episode although the animation quality dropped by alot it was still good.

2007-12-06, 17:39	Link #8
PhantomX Tsuruya's Lover Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In Rider's Arms Age: 36	They don't necessarily have to have an original ending if they decide to do a third season. They could always end it on a cliffhanger... personally I think it would be awful yet awesome at the same time :P

2007-12-06, 19:18	Link #9
Tokkan Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Australia Age: 35	I think Shana should be glad she isn't Juliet. Romeo and Juliet committed suicide, remember? I guess that's some form of symbolism, that any relationship between Yuji and Kazumi is doomed at the chance of ever happening. Though, this episode feels more like one of the school episodes from season 1 than any of the ones from season 2, so I'm wondering about whether or not people are going to come in and complain about this episode.

2007-12-06, 19:40	Link #10
ThoHell Senior Member Join Date: May 2006	Hm, interesting interesting. Can't wait to see how things play out, so many conflicting things arising. I sense internal friendship fighting in the future and preview for 11 looks interesting as well. Yuji is a bundle of mysteries all in oner.

2007-12-07, 00:08	Link #14
newby Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Singapore	yea this episode is nice. shana matured! lol =x

2007-12-07, 09:33	Link #15
Deathkillz ~ You're dead ^__^* ~ Graphic Designer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: uk, England Age: 34	Spoiler: I want my old shana back ;__; Oh whatever happened to the good old hot headed, loud mouth and spunky shana we all knew and love - in this season she just seems so boring! Not even an "urusai" zomg >.> Yet another average ep imo...slow moving and rather flat...more fights please __________________ Siggy: hohohohoho~ \| AnimeHistory welcome to our blog ~ \| Summer2009 early review Under the radar series Summer2009: Kanamemo, GA Geijutsuka Art, NEEDLESS

2007-12-07, 11:42	Link #16
grey_moon Yummy, sweet and unyuu!!! Join Date: Dec 2004	@DK - You just answered the thing that has been niggling me about Shana. I totally agree with you! __________________

2007-12-07, 11:54	Link #17
Kinny Riddle Gone for Good Join Date: Apr 2004	Firstly, JC STAFF, YOUR ANIMATION IS SH!TE TODAY!!! There, that's off my shoulders. Anyway, the only highlight has to be Yuji's old man, Kantarou. Since that is taken directly from novel volume 9. Fujiwara Keiji (Maes Hughes in Fullmetal Alchemist, Aizawa the Afro detective in Death Note and Hanamoto-sensei in Honey & Clover) is an excellent choice as Kantarou, he's got that air of laid back, yet mature personality in his voice. Plus he's worked with Kugimiya Rie (FMA) and Kawasumi Ayako (Nodame Cantabile) before, so he has no problem interacting with them in the scene where Kantarou cross-examines his future daughter-in-laws. It's been a while since we've seen Khamshin, and it's really a rare sight to behold to see Wilhelmina look so distressed at hearing what Khamshin had to say. Probably the first time we've seen her look so insecure.

2007-12-07, 16:46	Link #19
Deathkillz ~ You're dead ^__^* ~ Graphic Designer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: uk, England Age: 34	^ her character design also showed her to have grown a few years still doesnt justify her change in personality so much goddam >.> also noticed that S1 has more of a plot than what we are shown now... "boss shows up" "gets his ass kicked" "next one comes" now it's just... ... bleh >_< __________________ Siggy: hohohohoho~ \| AnimeHistory welcome to our blog ~ \| Summer2009 early review Under the radar series Summer2009: Kanamemo, GA Geijutsuka Art, NEEDLESS

2007-12-07, 16:52	Link #20
HayashiTakara Chicken or Beef? Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle Age: 41	I find it refreshing really.. Its much better than those anime girls that are consistantly abusive towards the male lead until they solidify their relationship (ie confession)... I like seeing the girl taking the step to make the guy like them, rather than be abusive cause he's paying attention to another girl.