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Of course, his desire to see the corner of the earth was OTL, but in the end he decided to retreat. We can assume that he had any intention to return to India later, but he had a lot of problems on his hands already, primarily concerning the succession issue, which IOTL he didn't really manage to accomplish...
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An ungroomed infant son which had not gathered the sufficient experience to manage anything. Succession isn't only about siring a kid, especially in an empire as vast and drastic as Iskandar's....
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Even if Alexander had lived longer enough to raise and educate his son to sufficient comptency, I doubt Argaead Empire could've lasted longer then 3 generations, Alexander's included. It was too large and drastic to last so long, especially with its practice of planting greek communities here and there as the nails of the state, compared to the previous persian practice of multi-cultural cooptation. But if one generation has proven to be enough to spread Hellenic culture to the east and increase west-east interconnection, imagine what 2 additional more could've made...
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You can't really blame Alexander for not resolving the succession. The guy died at 33, his wife was pregnant, and really he couldn't have expected to die at such a young age.
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That would be interesting, though if we're talking about Alexander's time period, I'm not sure he would've been all too impressed by what he would be "conquering" in those places..
And speaking of the size and durability of his empire.. Effective logistics, communication and governance has remained the largest barrier to controlling and governing vast swathes of "conquered" territory even to this day. What made the Roman Empire so damn amazing was the public works, including road construction, which if I recall was not a particular strong point in Alexander's empire building. |
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A couple of more scenerios
1. if the Qin never unify China 2. If mongol empire never exist. 3. if the Native Americans were more hostile to illegal immigrants. 4. the Viking colony at Vinland actually manage to last.
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The desert between Egypt and Carthage is sort of annoying to cross. Rome was still not all that large of a power yet. The First Punic War was about 60 years after Alexander died. They were fighting the Second Samnite War around that time. Rome controlled an area across the central part of modern day Italy.
The world in 323 BC at the time of Alexander's death.
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Alexander aims to spread Greek culture to the civilized world that he knew.. I'm sure if he knew or had interest to the cutures of Carthage or the barbaric Europe.. But that's interesting actually...
Hmmm... Zhao might have still last for a couple of years/decades. The Sung will extend for a couple of years.decades more. The Yuan Empire will never exist. Quote:
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Alexander had already conquered most of the "civilized world" already, the main areas left would be Carthage, Rome, the Etruscans, and remaining unconquered Greek City states of Southern Italy/Sicily.
Also, I don't doubt that Alexander also would have been willing to conquer uncivilized areas as well. It would have been a lot more difficult though, as he wouldn't be able to take the place of a pre-existing power structure. Several years of his campaigns in Persia was spent on Afghanistan after all. I'm sure the prospect of conquering the Celts, Germans or Scythians held similar appeal. |
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I wonder what he would have done if he followed the trade route to Qin?
As for the Native American. It isn't "gun are guns", it is "smallpox is smallpox". That and other illnesses spread far in advance of the White Man. Often cleaning out a region a decade or so before any real exploration or settlers arrived. Remember that the Spanish came to Central America in 1520 to invade. You didn't have many settlers in places west of the Mississippi River or into California until the 1770s. So there was a good 150 years for the White Man's germs to spread across the continent long before the White Man decided to head into the interior, or hit the West Coast in any serious fashion.
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Battle of River Granicus >>> around 47,000 Battle of Issus >>> around 41,000 Battle of Guagamela >>> around 47,000 Battle of Hydaspes (India) >>> around 11,000 only |
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Well at the Battle of the Hydaspes Alexander had an army of 11,000 against an Indian Amry that may have been over 55,000 strong with nearly 100 war elephants (or as small as 22,000 with 85 war elepants).
Alexander lost about 1,000 men. The Indians lost with at least 12,000 killed and 9,000 captured.
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