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2. The Noinheim Konzern. How do they figure into the convoluted mess everyone's in? They are Noin's family, and they were the spearheaders of Mars colonization- implicitly beginning DURING AC, so they were already there when the series was taking place. 3. The PPP. Nanotech technology that I think is somehow related to them which inhibits anyone but Heero from acting violently towards Relena (hence why he has to be the one to kill her). So as SkullFaerie said, forced pacifism. 4. What happened in Libra/what was discovered there. That line is just Duo referencing Hilde, as Ikuze said. Though as far as I understood, Epyon is essentially piloted by itself via ZERO System, so you could say Wu Fei is fighting Epyon rather than holo!Zechs. I don't think that's totally the case, it's more that the nanotech Zechs is created from the memories of Zechs and like how ZERO was used to restore Heero's memories, Epyon's System is acting the same way as the nanoZechs' 'memories'. I think. The spare explanation is as was said, a clone created by rich families for their children as backups in case their children are harmed or sick. Katherine was Quatre's, created by Zayeed Winner. Talking about Quatrine, is she Quatre's sister now or is she his clone? Technically, she's both; and besides that she was raised as his sister anyway. do we know if Quatre was the last child his mother got to 'conceive' before she died? Considering she died in childbirth, yes. Last edited by Kitsoru; 2011-07-11 at 01:21. |
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EDIT: Amen on Zechs being confusing enough as one person. Dude's always trying to find his purpose/something to protect. >_> I'm not quite sure what the man's up to come MC022, but I believe he was bounty-hunting that time he met Duo and entrusted Naina to him (so she could be sent off to Hilde). Last edited by Mareike; 2011-07-11 at 11:43. Reason: Added quote and response. |
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2011-07-11, 04:43 | Link #3263 | ||
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Still, I don't get how Quatre and Quatrine are siblings? She was raised to pose as a sister of his, yeah, but technically, she isn't his sister because she's nothing but his clone... right? Unless, in this particular universe, clones are considered to be an original's sibling? Afaik, one is only considered a (whole) sibling if the sperm cell and egg cell from which he or she originated from, came from the same parents, the preceding generation. But since clones are produced from the single cells of the same generation, that means they don't have parents. Which means they can't have siblings. I don't pretend to know a lot about cloning and shiz. I'm just stating the general idea I have, so please correct me if I'm wrong. It's no biggie anyway, I'm just a bit... intrigued. Also, has it been mentioned if cloning is considered illegal within this universe? Or does it simply depend on the country/colony/planet? Quote:
Sumizawa made Quatrine Quatre's clone for the drama, I reckon. Not for the same reasons as Rashid's lol. Fortunately for Quatrine, Sumizawa trumps Rashid, haha. XD Last edited by Leave The Pieces; 2011-07-11 at 05:13. Reason: Didn't want to spam. ;) |
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And no, it's not illegal; it actually seems to be a luxury reserved for the wealthy. (Speaking of Rashid, btw, he's married by the time of Katherine's backstory; but he and Iria seem to flirt or something during that time. It never goes anywhere, though.) Also, for those who were pining for a peacecraft family portrait: Spoiler for from pixiv:
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2011-07-12, 03:43 | Link #3265 |
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From what I can discern with my limited skills this novel is actually turning out much better, than I thought it was going to be a few months ago, still confusing but at least interestingly confusing.
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2011-07-12, 13:31 | Link #3270 | |
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I felt sorta relieved and happy for him when he said, "I'll never have to kill anyone again. I don't have to anymore." *shakes Sumisawa by the shoulders* WHY YOU DISREGARD EVERYTHING I guess Relena's an exception to everything though hehe. |
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2011-07-12, 19:58 | Link #3271 |
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What about Quatre and Zechs? And Treize? Actually, I'll be surprised if he kills anyone (with a name). If he does manage to, I bet it's gonna be the wrong person like with Noventa or the little girl. For being a trained assassin Heero really sucks at getting the job done correctly. xD
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Hm. I suddenly remembered that Karla (I think), posted her artwork of the kids and auntie, too. Lovely art that was. Quote:
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2011-07-13, 14:01 | Link #3273 |
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Yeah, same. I think he's gonna 'kill' Relena Peacecraft, and leave Relena Darlian remaining again :U
o Heero u so predictable By the way, new Gundam Concierge with Epyon and Epyon White: http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__...34527EGW56.jpg |
2011-07-13, 16:34 | Link #3274 |
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Makes me wonder why the other protagonists decided to side with Relena when she herself has sided with Heero? I doubt it's because Naina, Milou, Quatrine, etc. are actually supportive of her captors' monkey business. Maybe it's cuz they think there's a better way of dealing with this, without having to kill Relena? You know, cuz they're family and all. Family means nobody gets left behind! Lol
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2011-07-13, 19:59 | Link #3275 | |
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2011-07-13, 20:51 | Link #3276 | |
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2011-07-13, 22:24 | Link #3277 | |
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Anyway, have we been informed if Relena's aware of the battle between Yuy Team and Quatrine (the one where she gets picked up by the 69 twins afterward)? Hmm. If she isn't, I'm hoping it's because the kids are keeping it from her. Cuz I'm really leaning towards them disobeying her (like your speculations), because then, that would mean the kids think there's another way to rectify the situation without hurting Relena. Maybe not as failsafe as Operation Mythos, but still. Something tells me the drama is just beginning... that we haven't seen nothing yet. So I'm getting really paranoid here. I don't want Relena to die. That would be too much. Everything else, I will try to swallow. But her dying... my, ahem, humble Relena fangirl heart won't be able to survive THAT kind of drama. I just know it. |
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2011-07-14, 02:50 | Link #3278 | ||
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2011-07-14, 05:21 | Link #3279 | |
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Btw, random question here. Did anyone else other than Sumizawa see some chemistry between Quatre and Noin? During the series, I mean. Honestly, Milou and Quatrine? Umm. Didn't see that one coming. I think they make a rather curious ship, no? Oh well, at least the idea is unique, albeit totally random. Don't think the fandom influenced him on that one. |
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2011-07-14, 06:09 | Link #3280 | |
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As for Sally and Noin, I don't think anyone would mind that. I sure don't. Goodness gracious, don't tell me..! Mille and Kathy? |
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