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Old 2010-01-07, 22:31   Link #1
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Anime on 3D TVs...

So they are starting to produce TVs that can broadcast in 3D without needing the special glasses.
http://www.nwcn.com/news/business/Ki...-80926327.html

No doubt that there will begin to be anime shows that broadcast in 3D eventually.

What do people think about this?
What will it mean for the fansub culture and technology
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Old 2010-01-07, 22:36   Link #2
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To be honest, I expect only completely CG anime is going to bother using it - I'm not aware of any techniques for making conventional hand drawn animation work with 3D technology.
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Old 2010-01-07, 22:50   Link #3
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Anime is 90% 2D so I don't see how would that even work. Not that it matters, this is just another gimmick in my opinion.
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Old 2010-01-08, 00:02   Link #4
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Based on what I've seen in theatres I don't see why anyone would bother getting all the hardware needed for 3d movies. As was said it's just one nice gimmick.
Let alone anime! Making it 3d would be like heresy to the otaku culture.
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Old 2010-01-08, 01:55   Link #5
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Anime produced by J.C. Staff or any other company investing on high-end computer graphics will benefit from 3D. Shaft? Not sure. Their style isn't consistently 2D or 3D so they might flop sometimes.
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Old 2010-01-08, 19:51   Link #6
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It would prob look great if it's a CG title with battles like in MS Igloo or Advent Children. It might even spur them to improve their CG animation. CG hair is one of my pet peeves. Most of it looks molded not like Advent Children's hair.

It's for the high end crowd for now. You're talking adding $300 to the cost of a plasma TV set IIRC. Then there's the blu-ray player that has to be bought with those features added or get a PS3 which is able to handle it.

Prob won't affect fansubs as the computers will also be upgraded once the TVs are imo. It'll take a while for all of this to get mainstreamed imo.
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Old 2010-01-09, 02:37   Link #7
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Bring back cels tbh.
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Old 2010-01-09, 06:01   Link #8
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So they are starting to produce TVs that can broadcast in 3D without needing the special glasses.
No, on the contrary, for the technology discussed in the linked article they re saying (or implying) that glasses would still be needed.

I'd thought that one of the selling points of anime (anime in the narrow sense) is that it is a cartoon, i.e. 2D. I also have yet to see a full CGI anime that didn't look creepy in my eyes, especially the puppet-like movements of the characters. Even Avatar had to circumvent this problem by using motion capture and real actors. Now, this might not cost 50 billion Yen but still much too much for a standard anime studio.

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Old 2010-01-09, 19:02   Link #9
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How'd 2D anime work in 3D? Wouldn't it just look like cardboard cutouts?
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Old 2010-01-10, 04:52   Link #10
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No, on the contrary, they re saying (or implying) that glasses would still be needed.
Not for all, I worked for a company that made animations etc. and they had an assignment done for a TV flatscreen that produced an image that almost looked like it was coming out of the screen. I saw it, they showed it to me in the first day, you didn't need glasses but you had to sit at a certain point in front of it (distance didn't matter) and it would look surreal, for example they had a treasure chest that would open with bubbles coming out and the bubbles looked as if coming towards you out of the screen.

The company got their TV back, this was 2 years ago, I think it was Sony but not sure. Then the people I worked for wanted one but couldn't buy one cause it wasn't in stores and so a couple friends of my boss hooked up 3 computers added a TV screen and they made one themselves. The TV producer was pissed ha ha

However to have video work with 3D vision they would need a certain setting added, how does a dvd or TV know what the depth is calculating it would take some time. If such TV's were introduced then the movies etc. for it must carry a form of reading so that it is broadcasted directly in full 3D without having it calculate first.

The technology is still new, there aren't any TV's sold yet as far as I know, the only thing introduced so far is movies in cinema but they use a different system -> glasses
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Old 2010-01-12, 07:22   Link #11
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I think we're talking about 3d as simply having depth perception here in terms of objects behind/in front of one another and backgrounds, not models or animation methods.

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How'd 2D anime work in 3D? Wouldn't it just look like cardboard cutouts?
Maybe, I haven't seen Avatar yet but the couple of older 3D tech I've seen at IMAX and some Disney MJ stuff long ago still looked like cutouts even with live action.

I think my eyes would get crossed or something using it all the time though
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Old 2010-01-12, 08:58   Link #12
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It could be cool. I have Nvidia's stereoscopic 3D setup with my GTX285. If it's like that, it would be pretty cool. Makes me wonder though, if something could be subbed that would probably be weird in 3D. When I play Warhammer 40k Dawn of War, it looks like I can reach into my monitor and grab the units but the status bar/text that is above the unit floats "on top" of the glass, right in my face. Quite a bit distracting. If the subs were like that it would probably be annoying to deal with.
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Old 2010-01-12, 13:32   Link #13
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This may be interesting, but not practical as most animes are in 2D opposed to 3D... unless they use CGI of some sort. Also, this can get distracting.
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Old 2010-01-12, 17:09   Link #14
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I don't really like 3D anyway, I wouldn't like it at all.
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Old 2010-01-12, 19:46   Link #15
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Considering that anime production houses are having trouble affording the costs of making 2-D shows, what do you suppose a trend to 3-D would mean?

Over at avsforum.com, an audio/video enthusiasts site, over 40% of the members responding to a poll said they had no interest in 3-D TV. If that's true for this bunch of early adopters, what do you suppose the rest of the public thinks?
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