Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei LN - Archived Discussion

[Javani]

Originally Posted by TonyC1994

Hell, TatsuyaXAnyone is just about nonexistent due to his circumstances, so I don't really understand why people are trying to find evidence of his pairings at all.

I didn't say otherwise.
The relationship Brother / Sister is the only developed relationship (certainly one of the best I've seen in a LN) But for me there is no possible romantic relationships with Tatsuya. I don't really understand this shipping wars in MKnR.

[pampz21]

Originally Posted by Nandesuto

I do not think it means what you think it means.

I know what it means

Originally Posted by TonyC1994

Hell, TatsuyaXAnyone is just about nonexistent due to his circumstances, so I don't really understand why people are trying to find evidence of his pairings at all.

Instead, it would be more interesting to find out who has feelings for him.
Miyuki
Honoka
Erika
Mayumi
Angelina
Shizuku(?)

Not to mention a majority of the female Nine School competitors' are pretty grateful towards him...

Such a boss.

Thats we're doing....#!

Originally Posted by Flere821

Erika's the girl that gets shipped with a lot of characters in Hahouka, IMHO

-We have the obvious choice of Leo, considering how those two interact as foils to each other. In many cases Tatsuya make fun of this pairing as well, such as when those two went training during the Vampire arc.

-Mikihiko, the childhood friend, who knows Erika quite well. He also often play support for Erika when things get tough (again, Vampire Arc when those two team up at first). Mikihiko cares about Erika as well, considering he asked Tatsuya to keep an eye out for the Rozen family in case they try to go after her during the Double 7 arc.

-Finally, there's Tatsuya himself. Like-minded individuals in what they perceive Magicians to be and how to act as one. Also plenty of scenes together (eg 1st arc with him showing her around the school). Though IMO Tatsuya's out of Erika's league

You said it Flere
Tatsuya is too borish for Erika#! Thats why shes the one who makes trouble for him
Dont forget shes a major bro-con too

I didn't say otherwise.
The relationship Brother / Sister is the only developed relationship (certainly one of the best I've seen in a LN) But for me there is no possible romantic relationships with Tatsuya. I don't really understand this shipping wars in MKnR.

Well I like KirinoXKyousuke tho~
Shipping is what makes you use your imagination; In Miyuki's case you dont need to imagine cuz you already know what you're gonna get!

[ReaperxKingx]

What has happened in this thread?

[pampz21]

Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

What has happened in this thread?

No topic so we went to shipping war again#!

[fujin of shadows]

Originally Posted by pampz21

No topic so we went to shipping war again#!

What about a hundred and one ways to use Decomposition Magic?

I have one...Decomposition of space to create a wormhole to achieve teleportation.

1 down
100 to go....

[CatRules]

Originally Posted by fujin of shadows

What about a hundred and one ways to use Decomposition Magic?

I have one...Decomposition of space to create a wormhole to achieve teleportation.

1 down
100 to go....

space has Edios Structure?


p.s. how about magic and space travelling or turning Mars/Moon in to livable planet?

[XFire]

Originally Posted by Javani

I didn't say otherwise.
The relationship Brother / Sister is the only developed relationship (certainly one of the best I've seen in a LN) But for me there is no possible romantic relationships with Tatsuya. I don't really understand this shipping wars in MKnR.

To but it lightly, it's the authors fault. He excels at writing truly interesting characters, as well as giving incredibly entertaining dialogue between them.

He has combined this with what is the most deadly possible shipping bait: Tatsuya can not fall in love with anyone. Even his feelings towards Miyuki, the most obvious pairing, are literally described as unable to be anything but brotherly love.

Incidentally, do not think about white elephants. Guess what you just thought about? Works the same way here: Tatsuya can't fall in love, so everyone looks for love (or at least attraction) in his every action towards a girl.

[fujin of shadows]

Originally Posted by CatRules

space has Edios Structure?


p.s. how about magic and space travelling or turning Mars/Moon in to livable planet?

Everything in the world of Mahouka is nothing more than information structures...Information structures are made of eidos, and Tatsuya can decompose anything that has edios....Teleportation with decomposition is plausible....

[Rasen]

Originally Posted by pampz21

I know what it means

Then you used it wrong.

"SomeoneXSomeone" means that they have ROMANTIC feelings for each other (Friendly doesn't cut it). "Canon" means it's an OFFICIAL pairing. At the moment, TatsuyaXANYONE is non-canon because of his gimped emotions, but Miyuki is the closest by about the entire racetrack. (Honoka's the next closest, and that's because he KNOWS she loves him, and he feels guilty that he is incapable of returning the emotion. Guilt for Erika/Shizuku = jack diddly squat)

Erika may be attracted to Tatsuya, but Tatsuya (so far) only likes her as a friend who he will kill to protect the orders of the Yotsuba.

At most, it's Erika > Tatsuya.

You can talk about "hidden signs" all you want, but the author has no idea what "subtle" means. This author is as subtle as Hideyuki Kikuchi (of Vampire Hunter D). "Miyuki is the mostest beautifulest persons in all the land, so beautiful that other girls can't get jealous, they'll even turn at least bi-sexual!" "Tatsuya may have no emotions, but even HE thinks she's just about the most adorable perfect person in the world, who he would do anything and kill anyone for."

(The reason I bring up Vampire Hunter D: "When D faced a copy of himself, it was like the world would collapse, unable to sustain so much beauty." ) *gags*

Support whoever you want: that's the privilege of being a fan. But the romantic underdog in manga/anime NEVER wins, especially those for who you have to DIG for "hidden signs."

[Ultraviolet X]

Originally Posted by Rasen

Then you used it wrong.

"SomeoneXSomeone" means that they have ROMANTIC feelings for each other (Friendly doesn't cut it). "Canon" means it's an OFFICIAL pairing. At the moment, TatsuyaXANYONE is non-canon because of his gimped emotions, but Miyuki is the closest by about the entire racetrack. (Honoka's the next closest, and that's because he KNOWS she loves him, and he feels guilty that he is incapable of returning the emotion. Guilt for Erika/Shizuku = jack diddly squat)

Erika may be attracted to Tatsuya, but Tatsuya (so far) only likes her as a friend who he will kill to protect the orders of the Yotsuba.

At most, it's Erika > Tatsuya.

You can talk about "hidden signs" all you want, but the author has no idea what "subtle" means. This author is as subtle as Hideyuki Kikuchi (of Vampire Hunter D). "Miyuki is the mostest beautifulest persons in all the land, so beautiful that other girls can't get jealous, they'll even turn at least bi-sexual!" "Tatsuya may have no emotions, but even HE thinks she's just about the most adorable perfect person in the world, who he would do anything and kill anyone for."

(The reason I bring up Vampire Hunter D: "When D faced a copy of himself, it was like the world would collapse, unable to sustain so much beauty." ) *gags*

Support whoever you want: that's the privilege of being a fan. But the romantic underdog in manga/anime NEVER wins, especially those for who you have to DIG for "hidden signs."

I agree with this, the author has been pretty blunt about the pairings, and the underdog almost never wins in ln/anime/manga, so if you have to look for subtle/hidden signs to prove the pairings, its not happening. Besides which, its impossible for tats to end up with anyone, he simply has no feelings for that sort of thing.

[Hokoga]

Originally Posted by TonyC1994

Hell, TatsuyaXAnyone is just about nonexistent due to his circumstances, so I don't really understand why people are trying to find evidence of his pairings at all.

Instead, it would be more interesting to find out who has feelings for him.
Miyuki
Honoka
Erika
Mayumi
Angelina
Shizuku(?)

Not to mention a majority of the female Nine School competitors' are pretty grateful towards him...

Such a boss.

I think Shizuku secretly(or not aware) likes Tatsuya,
She brags about him to her parents to the point were they are like "who the hell is this guy"

Spoiler for Volume 12:

The gaze Tatsuya sent back to Benio inquired her as to the point of all this.
In Tatsuya’s mind, the concern that “this was Shizuku’s mother” had long since been extinguished.
“Which is why I conducted an investigation on you, Shiba Tatsuya-kun.”
Benio watched Tatsuya with a challenging glint in her eyes.
“Though that would hardly be pleasant, I can understand.”
In response, Tatsuya received it with a magnanimous look.
“Who the devil are you? With Kitayama’s…… The information network from the “Corporate Alliance” couldn’t even find your Personal Data!”
“That must have been a mistake. After all, I can’t attend high school without Personal Data.”
Tatsuya’s answer made perfect sense. However, Benio felt that this was the rub.
“Please don’t underestimate adults. It is true that your PD has the lowest level of information, interlaced with extra information that complicated the picture and a few negative reviews, so it wasn’t overly perfect. If I had not heard the things that child has said about you, I would have found nothing suspicious.”
“Is there something suspicious?”
The tone Tatsuya used with his riposte was as lifeless as a machine. His entire attitude practically screamed that he had already seen through the fact that Benio had no concrete information on her hands.
“No, there’s nothing. And that’s why it’s so odd.”
Tatsuya silently watched Shizuku’s mother as she kept glaring at him while chasing her own tail around. There was nothing to say. Those were Tatsuya’s honest feelings on the matter. The only thing he could think of while escaping from reality was that “she’s unlike her daughter in that she’s hot-blooded”.
“Hearing that child talk, you are someone with incredible prowess, no, practically divine abilities and talent. After this face-to-face conversation, my impression of you has only grown even further along the “atypical” direction. Yet, how can your Personal Data be so “mundane”?”
Benio’s words were both the truth and mere speculation. Since it was mere speculation, there was no reason to admit to anything.
“Personal Data is just simply information. The actual person cannot be as simple as that.”
Personal Data was the mask created to allow other people to identify him. Whether this mask was close to the truth or not, so long as the fact “it was close to the truth but not” remained hidden, the mask would continue to serve as his existence to the outside world.
“……So you are saying that it is only natural for impressions to differ, is that right?”
“That is who I am. If you ask my name and experiences, then it’s just as recorded in my Personal Data. In terms of impressions, it is just as you have seen. Beyond that, there is nothing more I have to say on the matter.”
On some level, those were Tatsuya’s honest thoughts on the matter. –That is who I am. He was someone who wielded incredibly destructive power on the scale of nuclear weapons and may very well one day shatter the world. So “what” was he? This was the question that he often posed to himself without any suitable answer.
However, Benio was unable to accept that answer.
“Are you trying to play dumb……!?”
Though she tried to curb her volume, that tone of hers was harsh enough already.
With a few exceptions, people who tread through the upper strata of society were able to deftly capture when someone of an equal or higher social standing revealed emotional fluctuations. The sight of the host’s wife fighting with one of the guests was starting to garner attention from the other participants.
“Benio. Settle down a little.”
Although this was called a family gathering, there was no way that only family members were in attendance. She definitely wouldn’t want someone else witnessing that scene of hers, which was why it was only natural for Kitayama Ushio to quickly come over and arbitrate.
“Shiba-kun, I apologize for my wife’s display.”
“Hardly, I believe I am the one who should be apologizing for my insolent words. After all, I am an immature member of the younger generation, so I would be immensely grateful if you could pardon my behavior.”
At Ushio bowing his head and apologizing, Tatsuya also returned the greeting and offered his apologies. Yet, his words were still quite haughty.
Fortunately, Ushio didn’t mind Tatsuya’s rather removed words. There was no sense of renewed anxiety and, just as the tide receded, his eyes drifted from Benio and Tatsuya.
“If appropriate, allow me to excuse myself.”
Tatsuya likely believed this to be a good opportunity, hence his words were directed at Ushio instead of Benio.
“Ah, that’s true. I believe my daughter would like to speak with you.”
Ushio felt that Benio also needed some time to cool down. Tatsuya bowed before walking off in the direction of Shizuku’s group while Ushio pressed Benio’s back as they gravitated towards the chairs by the wall.

“Tatsuya-kun, I’m sorry.”
Upon approaching to a distance where they no longer needed to shout to hear one another, Shizuku beat Tatsuya to the punch and apologized first while bowing her head.
After Shizuku raised her head, a barely perceptible hint of utter embarrassment was tucked within her usual stoic expression. After all, she had invited one of her classmates to her party only to have her own mother trouble them (in Shizuku’s eyes). Even someone other than Shizuku would be downright embarrassed.
“Nothing of the sort, I understand where your mother is coming from. If a man appeared out of nowhere and approached your own daughter, some concern is only to be expected. I thought nothing of it, so Shizuku, please don’t be concerned.”
“……Hm, sorry again.”
The lack of any more refutation was not because she wanted to change her mood (though there were some elements of that as well), but because falling silent was against her nature. Though she plainly wanted to apologize even more, that was the only phrase she could muster. That feeling was multiplied against her sense of embarrassment, causing her current awkward expression.
In the nick of time, Tatsuya realized that he was about to rub Shizuku on the head. This was blatantly not his responsibility, but because that overly depressed expression overlapped with a look Miyuki occasionally wore, Tatsuya was about to fall back on “rubbing her on the head” as a reflex.
He was far too relaxed, Tatsuya chuckled wryly to himself as he tucked that thought deeply away before shaking his head and laughing lightly as if to signify “let’s end this here”.

After Tatsuya gets into a quarrel(?) with Shizuku's mom, she ends up apologizing to him not once but twice.

From Shizuku's own personal dialog(back in the USNA)‎ we know that she's always comparing other guys to Tatsuya and they always come up short in her comparisons.

She had no problem appearing late at night(on her side) on Tatsuya's home monitor wearing her revealing pajamas(although she may have been drunk)

Spoiler for Volume 10:

Actually, coincidentally after Tatsuya and Miyuki finished dinner, the telephone rang.
Right now, this wasn’t exactly an odd hour for a call. –At least for the side who received the phone call.
However, this was late at night for the American West Coast and approached the time for the day change. It wouldn’t be a surprise if Tatsuya was a little nervous over what happened.
"Hello, Shizuku? Did something happen?"
As predicted, the one who appeared on the screen was her. However, her appearance that came through the picture was wholly expected.
Shizuku looked like she was wearing her pajamas. Following the height of fashion, her sleeping garment failed to include a robe.
Answering the phone in the living room was a bad idea. The large, high definition image projected a brilliant picture that was in no way inferior to real life.
Maybe it was because they were pajamas, but the light luminescent material was not covering much of Shizuku’s slim figure.
Tatsuya had seen Shizuku’s swimsuit during the summer, but the picture Shizuku presented now was even more alluring.
This was probably the effect of the faintly discernible hinting at the hidden portions. It was one thing if nothing could be seen, but the effect was aggravated when the curves were being hinted at.
Based on the image, Shizuku wasn’t wearing underclothes. Although the massive amounts of lace and trimmings covered up the important parts, if the article of clothing was slightly out of place then even the unmentionables would be revealed.
Under normal circumstances, even Tatsuya would raise an eyebrow. Fortunately, concern carried great weight on his part right now, so he wasn’t awkwardly flustered.
"Shizuku? What are you doing!?"

Yet, even someone of the same gender who caught a glimpse of this, Miyuki, was blushing – that’s how much she was flustered.
"Ah, Miyuki, good evening."
"Stop with the greeting! At least put on a robe!"
"……It’s OK, right?"
She wore an expression of skepticism, but Shizuku obediently pulled on a robe slowly.
"Sorry for the late hour."
Afterwards, she once again started the conversation anew after bowing her head.
"It’s not that late over here…… Wait, have you been drinking?"
Shizuku’s tone sounded tired but there was something strange, like an odd lint in her voice.
"Drink what?"
Of course that would be, no matter how much Tatsuya wanted to finish the comment, he opted to swallow his words. That was because he realized that voicing that aloud had achieved nothing since the dawn of time.

"Never mind, what were you speaking of?"
Her cognitive powers seemed to have declined as well, but she wouldn’t have called for no reason. Tatsuya determined that it was best to get the information from her as quickly as possible.
"Hm, I think I should tell you sooner rather than later."
Tell me what? Surely he should be praised for discerning the topic without blatantly asking the question.
"Do you already know? Impressive."
"Please praise me more."
Hearing Shizuku use a plain tone to flirt, Tatsuya suddenly felt a strong sense of powerlessness wash over him.
(……Who allowed Shizuku to drink?)

Judging from the rest of that phone call, it kinda feels like she just wanted to listen to him talk.
(I'm not shipping, I'm just noting what I seen so far from Shizuku.)

[TonyC1994]

Originally Posted by Hokoga

I think Shizuku secretly(or not aware) likes Tatsuya,
She brags about him to her parents to the point were they are like "who the hell is this guy"
After Tatsuya gets into a quarrel(?) with Shizuku's mom, she ends up apologizing to him not once but twice.

From Shizuku's own personal dialog(back in the USNA)‎ we know that she's always comparing other guys to Tatsuya and they always come up short in her comparisons.

She had no problem appearing late at night(on her side) on Tatsuya's home monitor wearing her revealing pajamas(although she may have been drunk)
Judging from the rest of that phone call, it kinda feels like she just wanted to listen to him talk.
(I'm not shipping, I'm just noting what I seen so far from Shizuku.)

Haha I just remembered about that phone call.

That was the one where she asked Tatsuya to "praise her more" right?

[Hokoga]

Originally Posted by TonyC1994

Haha I just remembered about that phone call.

That was the one where she asked Tatsuya to "praise her more" right?

yep, that part made me laugh cause it's so uncharacteristic of her.

[Echizen777]

Hi guys. I finally decided to stop lurking because of this shipping war.

Erika's discussion with Mizuki in the Visitor arc made it clear that she loves Tatsuya, it was hinted but we never really had a confirmation. She is paired with Leo but she doesn't love him and Leo doesn't care about romance. Among all the persons in his group of friends, Erika is the person who seems to understand him the most and he is interacting more with her than the others lately. I have the impression the story is becoming more Erika-focused and with the development that Tatsuya showed lately I am pretty surprised when I read he could kill his friends if he received orders just like that.

But it's clear than he can't fall in love and even his love for Miyuki is brotherly love, if Miyuki wasn't such a brocon they wouldn't even look like lovers sometime. So, I think that even if Tatsuya can't fall in love, the other girls have more chances than Miyuki because his feelings for Miyuki are the purest form of brotherly love.

For Honoka, Mayumi, Lina, Shizuku, Honoka is pretty much Miyuki without the beauty and talent, I think the author made it pretty clear that she has virtually no chances. It's obvious that Mayumi loves him, their relation is good and there is a lot of ship tease between them since volume 3 and even in the last one. Lina loves him, they have a good chemistry, her beauty rivals Miyuki to the point even Tatsuya couldn't stay indifferent, they have a similar background and his behavior towards her even made Miyuki jealous.

Tatsuya will most likely end up alone but the girls with who he has more chances of ending with are Lina, Mayumi and Erika.

I think it would be better to discuss who could have been his love interest if his emotions hadn't been suppressed.

English isn't my mother language so forgive my mistakes.

Sorry for mistakes, English is not my mother language.

[pampz21]

Originally Posted by Rasen

Then you used it wrong.

"SomeoneXSomeone" means that they have ROMANTIC feelings for each other (Friendly doesn't cut it). "Canon" means it's an OFFICIAL pairing. At the moment, TatsuyaXANYONE is non-canon because of his gimped emotions, but Miyuki is the closest by about the entire racetrack. (Honoka's the next closest, and that's because he KNOWS she loves him, and he feels guilty that he is incapable of returning the emotion. Guilt for Erika/Shizuku = jack diddly squat)

Erika may be attracted to Tatsuya, but Tatsuya (so far) only likes her as a friend who he will kill to protect the orders of the Yotsuba.

At most, it's Erika > Tatsuya.

You can talk about "hidden signs" all you want, but the author has no idea what "subtle" means. This author is as subtle as Hideyuki Kikuchi (of Vampire Hunter D). "Miyuki is the mostest beautifulest persons in all the land, so beautiful that other girls can't get jealous, they'll even turn at least bi-sexual!" "Tatsuya may have no emotions, but even HE thinks she's just about the most adorable perfect person in the world, who he would do anything and kill anyone for."

(The reason I bring up Vampire Hunter D: "When D faced a copy of himself, it was like the world would collapse, unable to sustain so much beauty." ) *gags*

Support whoever you want: that's the privilege of being a fan. But the romantic underdog in manga/anime NEVER wins, especially those for who you have to DIG for "hidden signs."

Lol; the reason I called it hidden because Miyuki is always the light#!Most people only see Miyuki and just tries to browse everything; thats what I do when the author gives physics lesson#!

Tatsuya has already admitted that Erika is quite attractive; has shown he really care about her based on the action he had shown;but still oblivious why he acts that way.

Tatsuya would kill anyone who knows their real identity; thats why he was weary of Mizuki due to his aura might give away his special identity; but he let Erika walk away even though she has already seen through his identity;she even said so herself, why does she care so much?, and stated that even if she ever told someone,Tatsuya would probably forgive her but doesnt want to risk it. so question is why did Tatsuya risk everything he build then let one girl walk away; if anyone beside Erika knew of his identity, he would have killed her in a spot;let say Lina or Mayumi? Do you think Tatsuya would dirty his hands to keep his identity to those two? Answer is yes!

[hakazee]

Originally Posted by Echizen777

For Honoka, Mayumi, Lina, Shizuku, Honoka is pretty much Miyuki without the beauty and talent, I think the author made it pretty clear that she has virtually no chances. It's obvious that Mayumi loves him, their relation is good and there is a lot of ship tease between them since volume 3 and even in the last one. Lina loves him, they have a good chemistry, her beauty rivals Miyuki to the point even Tatsuya couldn't stay indifferent, they have a similar background and his behavior towards her even made Miyuki jealous.

Tatsuya will most likely end up alone but the girls with who he has more chances of ending with are Lina, Mayumi and Erika.

I think it would be better to discuss who could have been his love interest if his emotions hadn't been suppressed.

English isn't my mother language so forgive my mistakes.

Sorry for mistakes, English is not my mother language.

I wonder if Honoka will love other guy.
Actually, i don't want that happen more than Mayumi Katsuto pairing or Erika Leo.
Somehow I feel NTR-ed.

[kidswable]

Originally Posted by pampz21

Lol; the reason I called it hidden because Miyuki is always the light#!Most people only see Miyuki and just tries to browse everything; thats what I do when the author gives physics lesson#!

Tatsuya has already admitted that Erika is quite attractive; has shown he really care about her based on the action he had shown;but still oblivious why he acts that way.

Tatsuya would kill anyone who knows their real identity; thats why he was weary of Mizuki due to his aura might give away his special identity; but he let Erika walk away even though she has already seen through his identity;she even said so herself, why does she care so much?, and stated that even if she ever told someone,Tatsuya would probably forgive her but doesnt want to risk it. so question is why did Tatsuya risk everything he build then let one girl walk away; if anyone beside Erika knew of his identity, he would have killed her in a spot;let say Lina or Mayumi? Do you think Tatsuya would dirty his hands to keep his identity to those two? Answer is yes!

Lina instant death will only result that he is obviously the strategic magician. do you think why yotsuba even go deep to negotiate with the colonel?

and about mayumi from the start tatsuya never want to get close to the "saegusa". remember, who is the one who want to disturb tatsuya so much?

anyway, I think Lina(Angie Sirius aka USNA stategic magician, in a mission to find nuclear magician) and Mayumi(saegusa clan obviously) aftermath if they are killed are far outweight erika(chiba clan and not officially recognized as rozen)

sorry for bad english

[pampz21]

Originally Posted by kidswable

Lina instant death will only result that he is obviously the strategic magician. do you think why yotsuba even go deep to negotiate with the colonel?

and about mayumi from the start tatsuya never want to get close to the "saegusa". remember, who is the one who want to disturb tatsuya so much?

anyway, I think Lina(Angie Sirius aka USNA stategic magician, in a mission to find nuclear magician) and Mayumi(saegusa clan obviously) aftermath if they are killed are far outweight erika(chiba clan and not officially recognized as rozen)

sorry for bad english

The usna havent theorized that the unregistered strategic magician is tied with the Yotsuba yet; they only know that the Yotsuba/Japan wants to stay as friendly as they were. If they know Lina found the strategic magician she was order to kill if none complaint, do you think Tatsuya would comply in exchange for his freedom/continues surveillance? Even the 101 battalion doesnt want to go over that borderline due to Tatsuya might rebel against them!

Yea the aftermath would be hazardous but do you think that can stop Tatsuya? He would even kill his aunt to achieve his freedom with Miyuki and his friends.

I agree that Lina/Mayumi far outweigh Erika's value;but still Tatsuya considers Erika as more than friends; Tatsuya is weary of Mizuku knowing his abilities and identity,she is his friend too, what made Erika different to Mizuki that Erika was allowed to see mist dispersal,elemental sight,regrowth,flash cast, Miyukis cocytus and their identity?

Erika had already seen through everything(except for material burst); if I were Tatsuya I would have killed her the moment she saw through his elemental sight. To both Tatsuya and Erika, killing isnt an issue;rather its a part of their normal life. Do you think Tatsuya would hesitate to kill another one?

[fujin of shadows]

Originally Posted by Echizen777

Hi guys. I finally decided to stop lurking because of this shipping war.

Erika's discussion with Mizuki in the Visitor arc made it clear that she loves Tatsuya, it was hinted but we never really had a confirmation. She is paired with Leo but she doesn't love him and Leo doesn't care about romance. Among all the persons in his group of friends, Erika is the person who seems to understand him the most and he is interacting more with her than the others lately. I have the impression the story is becoming more Erika-focused and with the development that Tatsuya showed lately I am pretty surprised when I read he could kill his friends if he received orders just like that.

But it's clear than he can't fall in love and even his love for Miyuki is brotherly love, if Miyuki wasn't such a brocon they wouldn't even look like lovers sometime. So, I think that even if Tatsuya can't fall in love, the other girls have more chances than Miyuki because his feelings for Miyuki are the purest form of brotherly love.

For Honoka, Mayumi, Lina, Shizuku, Honoka is pretty much Miyuki without the beauty and talent, I think the author made it pretty clear that she has virtually no chances. It's obvious that Mayumi loves him, their relation is good and there is a lot of ship tease between them since volume 3 and even in the last one. Lina loves him, they have a good chemistry, her beauty rivals Miyuki to the point even Tatsuya couldn't stay indifferent, they have a similar background and his behavior towards her even made Miyuki jealous.

Tatsuya will most likely end up alone but the girls with who he has more chances of ending with are Lina, Mayumi and Erika.

I think it would be better to discuss who could have been his love interest if his emotions hadn't been suppressed.

English isn't my mother language so forgive my mistakes.

Sorry for mistakes, English is not my mother language.

I am still a firm believer that the Shiba Siblings is a package deal.

Anyone who would marry Tatsuya would also have Miyuki.

Tatsuya would obey any orders that Miyuki gives. Do you guys honestly thing that Miyuki would let Tatsuya go?

I think that for Tatsuya to marry another girl, Miyuki would need to approve of her, and that girl should have an open mind in Miyuki joining them in bed and in other spousely activity.

But that's just me....

[kidswable]

Originally Posted by pampz21

The usna havent theorized that the unregistered strategic magician is tied with the Yotsuba yet; they only know that the Yotsuba/Japan wants to stay as friendly as they were. If they know Lina found the strategic magician she was order to kill if none complaint, do you think Tatsuya would comply in exchange for his freedom/continues surveillance? Even the 101 battalion doesnt want to go over that borderline due to Tatsuya might rebel against them!

Yea the aftermath would be hazardous but do you think that can stop Tatsuya? He would even kill his aunt to achieve his freedom with Miyuki and his friends.

I agree that Lina/Mayumi far outweigh Erika's value;but still Tatsuya considers Erika as more than friends; Tatsuya is weary of Mizuku knowing his abilities and identity,she is his friend too, what made Erika different to Mizuki that Erika was allowed to see mist dispersal,elemental sight,regrowth,flash cast, Miyukis cocytus and their identity?

Erika had already seen through everything(except for material burst); if I were Tatsuya I would have killed her the moment she saw through his elemental sight. To both Tatsuya and Erika, killing isnt an issue;rather its a part of their normal life. Do you think Tatsuya would hesitate to kill another one?

okay, but remember what's number 1 in tatsuya mind, MIYUKI. even if he could kill, he already explain that killing is not the best solution. even if he is godly against the world but what about miyuki's well being? will she become sad or will she become happy that he is known to the world?
and yotsuba, do you think what will happen if they ditch the sibling?

and the threat of mizuki's eye is already explained that her eye level is still not good enough.

and sorry, but until now all I see is that you only trying so hard to ship erika-tatsuya