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Lord of Fire · 2012-05-20, 02:16

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Originally Posted by DonQuigleone

Any thoughts on Faecbook's IPO?

Yeah, dotcom bubble version 2.

Kokukirin · 2012-05-20, 02:25

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Originally Posted by DonQuigleone

Any thoughts on Faecbook's IPO?

Personally, I think it's way overvalued. 100 times it's yearly earnings! I don't see how Facebook can do much more to increase it's earnings, certainly not enough to merit it's valuation.

I foresee it falling hard.

It certainly does not merit such valuation. Besides the P/E ratio, I also have a hard time imagining that Facebook can grow beyond what it is now. And if it does not, its revenues will stagnate, which really counts as a failure for a tech company. Like Zynga and Groupon before it, Facebook's stock will eventually drop to where it belongs.

Mr Hat and Clogs · 2012-05-20, 04:43

I can't be the only one eagerly awaiting in to crash like the Hindenburg with a grin like...

DonQuigleone · 2012-05-20, 07:25

I find the fact that it's valued higher then Disney to be particularly absurd.

I mean Disney controls half the USA's TV and movies (through it's subsidiaries), how can Facebook be worth more then that?

I expect Facebook to lose at least half it's value. Maybe even 90% (if it's growth rates fall to those of "regular" companies).

In the past, Facebook had the benefit of the potential to grow it's user base, it can't really do that anymore...

mangamuscle · 2012-05-20, 08:37

IMO opinion Facebook will s-l-o-w-l-y start to charge for their service, they will try to hide is as an upgrade but on the long run they want people to pay for what nowadays they have for free. Which is quite logical since people are ADDICTED to facebook, they can no longer live without it.

Anh_Minh · 2012-05-20, 08:47

They might start charging companies, but normal users? Not a chance. Their whole business relies on nearly everyone using them. They can't afford to have the new, still penniless generation to not get addicted.

Mr Hat and Clogs · 2012-05-20, 08:57

I barely use FB as it is, if they charged for it I wouldn't even bother to look at it at all.

FB gets a cut from all the game currency doesn't it? So in a way, they are charging people already.

SaintessHeart · 2012-05-20, 09:03

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Originally Posted by Mr Hat and Clogs

I can't be the only one eagerly awaiting in to crash like the Hindenburg with a grin like...

I am looking forward to make money from it.

mangamuscle · 2012-05-20, 09:15

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Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

They can't afford to have the new, still penniless generation to not get addicted.

Facebook does not need the new generation to get addicted, nowadays facebook is on the level of drinking, smoking and all the "cool" things a teenager wants to do that only adults can, they will do whatever they can (beg their parents, get a job, steal) to get into the "cool" options in facebook.

DonQuigleone · 2012-05-20, 09:48

It would be interesting to know how many of FB's users are "active", I have an account, but I rarely use it. Many of you guys seem to be similiar.

I basically keep my FB account as something akin to being listed in the telephone book. It's a way for people to find me and contact me.

In terms of regular contact, I quickly switch to email and chat.

ganbaru · 2012-05-20, 10:44

Lockerbie bomber Megrahi has died in Libya: brother
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...84J05H20120520

Syria tensions light fuse in north Lebanon
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...84F0K720120516

SaintessHeart · 2012-05-20, 11:01

With regards to Facebook, the price looks as though it is not going to move anymore.

And I missed the short-selling period. FML. Btw, whoever is handling their counter is a pretty smart bastard, between 12pm-3pm he/she is stop-hunting all the way.

Zakoo · 2012-05-20, 11:22

Think to all the people who bought action for 45$ to see it fell to 38$ the afternoon and grieve with them or not

SaintessHeart · 2012-05-20, 11:24

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Originally Posted by Zakoo

Think to all the people who bought action for 45$ to see it fell to 38$ the afternoon.........

Someone wants to treat me to dinner for that. What should I ask for?

Dhomochevsky · 2012-05-20, 11:26

Isn't it like this with all those hyped up IPO's?

The guys a sitting directly at the markets, with super low delay, direct access get first dibs, then they cash in on all the gullible masses that bought into the media hype.

mangamuscle · 2012-05-20, 11:28

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Originally Posted by Dhomochevsky

Isn't it like this with all those hyped up IPO's?

The guys a sitting directly at the markets, with super low delay, direct access get first dibs, then they cash in on all the gullible masses that bought into the media hype.

"A fool and his money are soon parted"

SaintessHeart · 2012-05-20, 12:12

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Originally Posted by Dhomochevsky

Isn't it like this with all those hyped up IPO's?

The guys a sitting directly at the markets, with super low delay, direct access get first dibs, then they cash in on all the gullible masses that bought into the media hype.

Yeah. Watch it when those big boys selling off their stuff after 10.30am, then go off for lunch at 12pm. The fools buy back in and the short-sellers step in to earn extra cash all the way until 3pm, where the big boys came back in and dump whatever leftover shares they have.

If Goldman Sachs are the ones handling the fund, I must say that whoever the fund manager is the person is a fucking smart asshole. He knows it is May and the spirit of selling is high (sell-in-May), and any stock IPO-ing would likely be brought back to the ground no matter what because people are looking to earn quick bucks by short-selling, or the other fund managers looking to a quick beautification of their portfolios; there is no better way to earn money than through any hyped-up shit in May.

Sumeragi · 2012-05-20, 12:20

*Whistles as she counts her cash*

SaintessHeart · 2012-05-20, 12:25

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Originally Posted by Sumeragi

*Whistles as she counts her cash*

Glad to know the most of the people around me who have time on the action decided to be evil for the greater good.

Sumeragi · 2012-05-20, 12:29

I'm on to go on the offensive and enlarge my portfolio.

2012-05-20, 04:43	Link #21523
Mr Hat and Clogs Did someone call a doctor Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 40	I can't be the only one eagerly awaiting in to crash like the Hindenburg with a grin like... __________________

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mangamuscle formerly ogon bat Join Date: May 2011 Location: Mexico Age: 53	IMO opinion Facebook will s-l-o-w-l-y start to charge for their service, they will try to hide is as an upgrade but on the long run they want people to pay for what nowadays they have for free. Which is quite logical since people are ADDICTED to facebook, they can no longer live without it. Last edited by mangamuscle; 2012-05-20 at 09:10.

2012-05-20, 08:57	Link #21527
Mr Hat and Clogs Did someone call a doctor Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 40	I barely use FB as it is, if they charged for it I wouldn't even bother to look at it at all. FB gets a cut from all the game currency doesn't it? So in a way, they are charging people already. __________________

2012-05-20, 10:44	Link #21531
ganbaru books-eater youkai Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Betweem wisdom and insanity	Lockerbie bomber Megrahi has died in Libya: brother http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...84J05H20120520 Syria tensions light fuse in north Lebanon http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...84F0K720120516 __________________

2012-05-20, 11:01	Link #21532
SaintessHeart NYAAAAHAAANNNNN~ Join Date: Nov 2007 Age: 35	With regards to Facebook, the price looks as though it is not going to move anymore. And I missed the short-selling period. FML. Btw, whoever is handling their counter is a pretty smart bastard, between 12pm-3pm he/she is stop-hunting all the way. __________________ When three puppygirls named after pastries are on top of each other, it is called Eclair a'la menthe et Biscotti aux fraises avec beaucoup de Ricotta sur le dessus. Most of all, you have to be disciplined and you have to save, even if you hate our current financial system. Because if you don't save, then you're guaranteed to end up with nothing.

2012-05-20, 07:25	Link #21524
DonQuigleone Knight Errant Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Dublin, Ireland Age: 35	I find the fact that it's valued higher then Disney to be particularly absurd. I mean Disney controls half the USA's TV and movies (through it's subsidiaries), how can Facebook be worth more then that? I expect Facebook to lose at least half it's value. Maybe even 90% (if it's growth rates fall to those of "regular" companies). In the past, Facebook had the benefit of the potential to grow it's user base, it can't really do that anymore...

2012-05-20, 08:47	Link #21526
Anh_Minh I disagree with you all. Join Date: Dec 2005	They might start charging companies, but normal users? Not a chance. Their whole business relies on nearly everyone using them. They can't afford to have the new, still penniless generation to not get addicted.

2012-05-20, 09:48	Link #21530
DonQuigleone Knight Errant Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Dublin, Ireland Age: 35	It would be interesting to know how many of FB's users are "active", I have an account, but I rarely use it. Many of you guys seem to be similiar. I basically keep my FB account as something akin to being listed in the telephone book. It's a way for people to find me and contact me. In terms of regular contact, I quickly switch to email and chat.

2012-05-20, 11:22	Link #21533
Zakoo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Gensokyo	Think to all the people who bought action for 45$ to see it fell to 38$ the afternoon and grieve with them or not

2012-05-20, 11:26	Link #21535
Dhomochevsky temporary safeguard Join Date: May 2004 Location: Germany	Isn't it like this with all those hyped up IPO's? The guys a sitting directly at the markets, with super low delay, direct access get first dibs, then they cash in on all the gullible masses that bought into the media hype.

2012-05-20, 12:20	Link #21538
Sumeragi Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dai Korai Teikoku	Whistles as she counts her cash

2012-05-20, 12:29	Link #21540
Sumeragi Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dai Korai Teikoku	I'm on to go on the offensive and enlarge my portfolio.