High School DxD Light Novel - Character power-ups, match-ups, and ratings

[Parry999]

Akeno would need to be way stronger then her father to fight Grayfia it took a Cadre that specialized in anti magic to inconvenience her.

[Tyler.R]

What does everyone think will be the best strategy Issei's team could use to defeat Rias's team?

[Parry999]

Originally Posted by Tyler.R

What does everyone think will be the best strategy Issei's team could use to defeat Rias's team?

Have Ddraig distract Crom Cruach and one shot them all with infinity blaster

[Lucidrago]

Originally Posted by Parry999

Akeno would need to be way stronger then her father to fight Grayfia it took a Cadre that specialized in anti magic to inconvenience her.

The fight was offscreen though and Grayfia was holding back. Not much that we can get out of an offscreen fight though. Armaros was fighting Rossweisse and then Grayfia came to fight him and the fight went offscreen from there. So we really can't use that as a comparison.

What I'm saying is that Akeno would somehow achieve a temporary form that doubled the number of fallen angel wings she has and makes her strength equivalent to that of a Maou-class opponent like Grayfia. Like a temporary full awakening of her powers. She is covered in Holy Lightning that affects anyone that comes anywhere near her and also works as a shield that can protect her somewhat from attacks and she can't control who it affects. So she's constantly releasing a dangerous aura from her body that affects allies as well as enemies. Dark thunderclouds form all around Akeno and she can strike lightning down from any one of those thunderclouds of her own accord.

And Vali will resonate with the 12 Malebranche by dominating them achieving a new powerful form. The Longinus possessors will defeat the Malebranche but they'll only destroy their physical bodies. The cores will be recovered and instead of properly sealing them, Vali will bring the 12 Malebranche under his control as they all recognize him as the one true Maou.

And I'm going to guess that the Malebranche can regenerate and automatically heal their bodies. And if their entire body is destroyed they will eventually get it back but It'll take a while if It's destroyed. But as long as their cores remain intact their bodies will regenerate if they are destroyed.

That is what makes the Malebranche so dangerous as It's almost impossible to permanently destroy them. And they are very difficult as it but you have to destroy their core as well. The only ones capable of performing such s feat are the most powerful gods and the Longinus possessors. Otherwise the Malebranche can only be sealed. Because their cores are even sturdier than their bodies.

So Issei will have the 12 Heavenly Breasts and Vali will have the 12 Malebranche.

[XFire]

Originally Posted by Lucidrago

The fight was offscreen though and Grayfia was holding back. Not much that we can get out of an offscreen fight though. Armaros was fighting Rossweisse and then Grayfia came to fight him and the fight went offscreen from there. So we really can't use that as a comparison.

What I'm saying is that Akeno would somehow achieve a temporary form that doubled the number of fallen angel wings she has and makes her strength equivalent to that of a Maou-class opponent like Grayfia. Like a temporary full awakening of her powers. She is covered in Holy Lightning that affects anyone that comes anywhere near her and also works as a shield that can protect her somewhat from attacks and she can't control who it affects. So she's constantly releasing a dangerous aura from her body that affects allies as well as enemies. Dark thunderclouds form all around Akeno and she can strike lightning down from any one of those thunderclouds of her own accord.

And Vali will resonate with the 12 Malebranche by dominating them achieving a new powerful form. The Longinus possessors will defeat the Malebranche but they'll only destroy their physical bodies. The cores will be recovered and instead of properly sealing them, Vali will bring the 12 Malebranche under his control as they all recognize him as the one true Maou.

And I'm going to guess that the Malebranche can regenerate and automatically heal their bodies. And if their entire body is destroyed they will eventually get it back but It'll take a while if It's destroyed. But as long as their cores remain intact their bodies will regenerate if they are destroyed.

That is what makes the Malebranche so dangerous as It's almost impossible to permanently destroy them. And they are very difficult as it but you have to destroy their core as well. The only ones capable of performing such s feat are the most powerful gods and the Longinus possessors. Otherwise the Malebranche can only be sealed. Because their cores are even sturdier than their bodies.

So Issei will have the 12 Heavenly Breasts and Vali will have the 12 Malebranche.

Wait, what?

Why and how is Vali involved here? This isnt his fight.

[Lucidrago]

We're talking about power-ups since this is the power-ups thread if you haven't realized. I'm just talking about a possible power-up for Vali in the future.

[XFire]

Originally Posted by Lucidrago

We're talking about power-ups since this is the power-ups thread if you haven't realized. I'm just talking about a possible power-up for Vali in the future.

It's the "power-ups, match-ups, and ratings" thread, and you replied to a comment about Akeno's confirmed power-up.

Then you brought up the Malebranche (which....have not shown up in Shin yet, have they?) and talked about them being a powerup for Vali. Who doesnt have a fight in vol 2 as far as we're aware.

[The Infinite Dream]

Im just curious why you think theyre going to be a power up? From what we know of zero theyre going to be made to fight the longinous processors so i dont see him obtaining them but fighting against them.

[Parry999]

They are basically 13 Fenrirs. It be like giving all 13 orginal longinus's to Ise and have to write around how hax that make him lol. Issei technically a 5th maou "Satan" according to Lucifers son anyway.

[XFire]

I mean, iirc the data book said issei successfully surpassed DG level in the EX timeline and beat that evil God or whatever, so presumably Vali would get some kind of power up to do the same.

[Parry999]

Well one of them would make sense not sure all 13 does. Vali could probably just call Vidar Nii-San and get some kind of norse spell book or weapon for a birthday gift.

[Lucidrago]

Originally Posted by XFire

I mean, iirc the data book said issei successfully surpassed DG level in the EX timeline and beat that evil God or whatever, so presumably Vali would get some kind of power up to do the same.

I don't remember that ever being stated about Issei. All it described was how powerful Melvazoa was and how his brother and sister were around his level in terms of strength.

It never said anything about Melvazoa being defeated in that 'Top Secret' chapter in the databook.

And yes, I talked about Akeno's possible power-up. Then I started talking about a possible power-up for Vali. And yes having 13(Sorry about getting the numbers mixed up) Longinus with their own independent will is kind of too much. But then again Issei's breast power is on the level that it can even defeat gods and he is gathering the 12 Heavenly Breasts. So all would be even.

I mean I think it would be epic if the Longinus possessors took on and defeated the Malebranche. And instead of revealing them, Vali brings them under his control. And they follow his commands. And he would have to resonate with all 13 of them to even go into his new form that far surpasses Dragon God level.

[XFire]

I read a spoiler that Issei eventually beats him in the EX timeline, but I dont have the link to it so take it how you will.

Regardless, having the Malebranche submit to Vali doesnt make much sense thematically. His thing has always been about doing it alone, aside from Albion. His Ejod powerup was him suppressing the previous users, and his DXD was Ophis walking up his hidden potential.

The "gather X group and channel their power" is more of an Issei thing.

[Blazor 98]

Originally Posted by XFire

It's the "power-ups, match-ups, and ratings" thread, and you replied to a comment about Akeno's confirmed power-up.

Then you brought up the Malebranche (which....have not shown up in Shin yet, have they?) and talked about them being a powerup for Vali. Who doesnt have a fight in vol 2 as far as we're aware.

Actually Vali do have a fight Shin Volume 2. Shin Volume 2 will go over Issei vs Rias and Vali vs Sun Wukong.

[Lucidrago]

Originally Posted by Blazor 98

Actually Vali do have a fight Shin Volume 2. Shin Volume 2 will go over Issei vs Rias and Vali vs Sun Wukong.

That would take up way too much space though.

@Xfire I never saw anything that revealed that Malvazoa was defeated by Issei. Why would Ishibumi reveal the defeat of the main enemy of the future so soon? All the hype about the invaders from the other world and then Ishibumi just reveals that Malvazoa, the final final boss, is defeated by Issei? That doesn't make much sense.

Maybe you're confusing Melvazoa with Rezwo Roado, one of the Eclipsed Seven Luminaries(Melvazoa's direct underlings who are as powerful as each mythology's chief god), who Issei defeated in Ex and used his tore-off arm to pick his nose while he was in giant dragon form.

If Vali went at things alone, then he wouldn't have his team with him. He wouldn't have been able to achieve EJOD without the past possessors but instead of winning them over to his side like Issei did, he dominated them and just showed them he was the superior Hakuryuukou. And then he got Ophis' blessing which allowed him to achieve DxD L.

The fact that you can't do things alone in this series is kind of the central theme of the series. It's kind of subtly put in there by Ishibumi all throughout the series.

[Blazor 98]

@Lucidrago, why would it take up too much space? DX4 has 2 rating games.

[Lucidrago]

DX4 was a side story volume. Not a main story volume. And those Rating Games wouldn't be as long since we really don't care about most of the characters on Sona's and Sairaorg's team.

While you're talking about two matches that are both going to be covered in the main story and are going to be very detailed. Why do you think Volume 24 that was originally going to be both of Issei's and Rias' separate Rating Games was split into two volumes?

The volume would be too long if you includes both Issei vs Rias and Vali vs Sun Wukong. And there was never anything said about Vali vs Sun Wukong taking place in Shin Volume 2.

[XFire]

Originally Posted by Lucidrago

That would take up way too much space though.

@Xfire I never saw anything that revealed that Malvazoa was defeated by Issei. Why would Ishibumi reveal the defeat of the main enemy of the future so soon? All the hype about the invaders from the other world and then Ishibumi just reveals that Malvazoa, the final final boss, is defeated by Issei? That doesn't make much sense.

Maybe you're confusing Melvazoa with Rezwo Roado, one of the Eclipsed Seven Luminaries(Melvazoa's direct underlings who are as powerful as each mythology's chief god), who Issei defeated in Ex and used his tore-off arm to pick his nose while he was in giant dragon form.

If Vali went at things alone, then he wouldn't have his team with him. He wouldn't have been able to achieve EJOD without the past possessors but instead of winning them over to his side like Issei did, he dominated them and just showed them he was the superior Hakuryuukou. And then he got Ophis' blessing which allowed him to achieve DxD L.

The fact that you can't do things alone in this series is kind of the central theme of the series. It's kind of subtly put in there by Ishibumi all throughout the series.

It was talking about the EX timeline, not the main one.

And Vali's team literally runs with the "everyone split up and do your own thing" strategy. There's minimal teamwork and Vali ran off to fight a duel five minutes in.

The predecessors were explicitly "suppressed", so they weren't exactly supplying him power. And Ophis' thing was still purely Vali's power. He doesn't have the power of Infinity or GR's Dream in him.

[Lucidrago]

Still wouldn't have achieved those forms without the past possessors and Ophis' blessing.

And they're still a team. While they are very powerful individuallt, there have a very strong team cohesion where they can assist each other and work together as needed.

[sbh1fr]

the predecessors never supplied any power. They are just remnant memories of previous possessor of the sacred gear. The powers came from draig and albion, not from the predecessors... althougth they, or their memories were cursed with negative emotions that overwelm the current host of the SG and incite them to use Jaggernaut Drive.