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View Poll Results: High School DxD - Episode 0 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 3 | 13.64% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 3 | 13.64% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 8 | 36.36% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 3 | 13.64% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 1 | 4.55% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 4 | 18.18% | |
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2018-04-11, 01:29 | Link #1 | ||||
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High School DxD Hero - Episode 0 Discussion / Poll
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2018-04-11, 01:40 | Link #2 |
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What are you thinking?
In High School DxD BorN, people asked director Tetsuya Yanagisawa that question. But it's High School DxD Hero now. Yanagisawa is no longer director. In other words, like Shalba without his arms, Ichiei Ishibumi has nowhere to hide. So I must ask him. Of all the BorN scenes that Ishibumi and Lucasfilm, I mean Passione, decide to retcon, they go with the Juggernaut Drive set piece? Really? The epic sequence whose deviations bolster its impact? Was the lack of the Oppai Dragon song so ingrained in the public demographic that you had to course correct? Did Loki cost too much for revision? Must you dumb down everything and nearly everyone into a slack-jawed gruel before bribing us with Rias's rack, and then Asia's kiss? Well, congratulations, fellas. You not only waste time and money on a full 25-minute redo because all shall hail Ishibumi our Lord and Savior, but you also stoke ill will to those who've seen the previous, flawed, crazy mess in its entirety and loved it all the same. I have defended High School DxD BorN since its airing, and this is the thanks I get. Faith in source material. Hah! Tossed along with the bathwater is the eroticism charged throughout the roller coaster of pulp. No Xenovia who loses it and her top, no Rias as a frequently upskirt Fay Wray, and no slinky delusions of Raynare. In English, no Xenovia madly avenging her friend, no Rias pleading for her love while in his vice grip, and no callbacks to the monster that enervated Issei to invoke his inner monster for Asia. Those moments are steamy, alright, but they lend thematic weight. What do we get here? Rias looks more catatonic than her previous incarnation, Gasper's time-stop cameo somehow makes much less sense than before, and Xenovia wails immediately upon receiving Asia in her arms and then eight minutes later wails some more to shove aside Issei (oh, sure, it's more faithful for Xenovia to play crybaby. Risa Taneda came back for this?) And Yuuto...he's missing Freed to show who's daddy. The execution doesn't just mess with the viewers salivating for a T&A good time; it favors the letter of the law over the passion and consequence that could spring out of such chaos. See, this rebootmakequel looks at the fanservice requisite and decides that instead of weaving the material organically, it must insert it in and check it off the list. That way, Ishibumi can stamp his approval. Introducing the new and improved Vali, who won't transform into the badass Welsh Dragon upon Akeno and Koneko's request (a scene effective for how the parties set aside their differences) but first murmurs that the way to defeat Issei is the power of song; yes, they've divided Vali's balls too. And even when Vali finally fights Issei, his roaring, bestial might delivers...a hickey. I didn't know this franchise could get any lower in the action department. Cue Irina and the sex toy chest- er, film projector. Thank heavens, the first person to exhibit personality! Welcome back, Irina. And when I see the animation, something else bugs me. Why does this episode spend several shots on characters running/walking from point A to point B, when they could be doing stuff during said coordinates? Do we need to be helpfully reminded that these characters have two legs? Wings too expensive? I don't understand the narrative function of Vali arriving by portal several blocks away from the Occult Research Club when last season he phased right behind them. Meanwhile, I'm not sure which point Rossweisse is located. And I'm sorry, fans, but the Oppai Dragon song is handled and placed better in BorN. As the closer for said series, the song carries an ironic undercurrent, about this lovable teenage doofus who becomes the idol of children after proceeding to murder those who dare messed with his women. The best thing to happen to Issei is that he isn't caught. The song serves not as a jarring comedic resolution, but a sigh of relief; after the turmoil Issei sends himself and his friends into, the Occult Research Club can just smile knowing they live to not talk about the damn thing again. In Hero, the animators blow their chance at amends by cutting Issei's ditty again to brief, just marginally less brief shots (and still without sing-along lyrics), so they can spend more time showing Rias, Vali and friends in long, blank stares that must have sounded funny on paper, but don't appear as rewarding because we've already seen several blank stares beforehand! Rias should be a looker, not a gawker. And remember what you purists were promised? Well, Sirzechs still ain't crooning. It's not that High School DxD is hard to adapt, it's that if you obey only what Ishibumi's pulpit entails and never give your all, you take out the spice, the textures, and the heat, and are left cooking a bowl of water. For the first time in his anime franchise, Ishibumi fails by being afraid to fail, and for the first time too, his animators are but puppets. BorN is sexy, risky, and complicated, better than readers give it credit for, and if I must hail it again, I will. In defying its predecessor, Hero's first impression divides, divides, divides... Simply put, I'm so glad Tetsuya Yanagisawa completed a trilogy. I pity the fools assigned to upstage him. For Hero Episode 00, hopefully but not surely an author's one-shot exercise in hubris, I think Ddraig puts it best. Ichiei Ishibumi, you made the wrong choice. |
2018-04-11, 02:30 | Link #3 |
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Uh so you wrote a bunch to complain about various issues. Nice output but defending BorN and outright bashing Hero entirely with one remake prologue is kinda extreme don't you think. You've completely shown that you're going to be biased to it from the get-go. If TNK or Yanagisawa did this himself would you complain about these issues as well?
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2018-04-11, 02:51 | Link #4 |
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I was looking forward to this season no doubt and Episode 1 severely annoyed me and it's simply because it really didn't bring anything to the table. Recap episodes are bad enough normally but to do it at the start of the season was even worse. Next week should be much more fun
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2018-04-11, 03:19 | Link #5 | |
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2018-04-11, 10:51 | Link #6 |
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Watched Ep. 0 and while I'm surprised that Passione adapted the last chapters of Volume 5 faithfully (not to mention having uncensored boobies), I'm worried about the studio having some production issues that I don't want them getting in the same situation as Hoods Entertainment in regards to Märchen Mädchen.
Still, it looks fine and I can't wait for the real Episode 1. |
2018-04-11, 11:01 | Link #8 |
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I only have 3 problems with this episode.
1 - The music used in the JD transformation. It just didn't fit with the scene. 2 - Great Red is a still frame again. Looks better than TNK's version though. 3 - The race was still framed and it felt way too long for a still frame. Felt like I was watching a visual novel. Apart from those issues I enjoyed the episode. The animation is way better than everything TNK produced for BorN. |
2018-04-11, 11:04 | Link #9 |
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Yeah, it was really fast paced. They crammed 2 episodes worth of content into this little recap, but it's a recap so I'm not really sure what to think in that regard. I certainly prefer the LN's content over the contrived writing in BorN that essentially beat this season's main plot over your head repeatedly, so I'm happy in that regard. Recaps can range from normal episodes to glorified slideshows depending on the series, so I can only wait to see how the next episodes play out. At the very least, certain sequences of the Juggernaut Drive were hilariously better animated than anything in the first few seasons.
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2018-04-11, 20:11 | Link #11 |
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*checks Twitter* Phew, I thought Gotou Junji died or something. The only thing I have to say is that while the new character designs (why did they change them?) are closer to Miyama Zero's and is "cute" (derpy), as for as fanservice goes, Gotou's is faaar better. The shine in the skin and all, man, the good days.
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2018-04-11, 21:45 | Link #12 | |
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the whole purpose for this episode is to set things straight according to the novel and erase Born's events |
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2018-04-12, 04:47 | Link #13 |
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I see people who don't read novels still can't understand how terrible Born was... Yes, it was so bad that they needed to retell ending of Volume 6, and anime adaptation is still missing important events. It's not just recap episode, it was necessary to even be able to continue adapting HDxD.
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2018-04-12, 06:04 | Link #15 |
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Can you even retell what wasn't told in the first place? I don't recall anything from volume 5 after Koneko's mini-arc being animated. Which is like... half to two-thirds of the book being left out, if I'm remembering the book correctly.
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2018-04-12, 07:30 | Link #19 |
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I'm still going to have to get used to the animation style.
Hopefully will be better than Born (cause that was my least favorite season from the franchise so far). Seems okay so far. Once the plot really picks up, it should be fun.
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2018-04-12, 07:32 | Link #20 |
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The fact that they had to spend an episode essentially saying that the last 3 episodes were filler garbage to be ignored is rather telling. Some of the still shots of the characters aren't very good and it'll take a while to get used to. That being said 9 and 10 have some incredible ecchi moments so that's gonna be where DxD makes it's money.
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