2011-10-27, 14:50 | Link #21 |
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The question that arise is, will other 'normal' master in Zero (Kiritsugu obviously aside) use/allowed such tactics like threatening families of other masters?
That'd be real funny if she really tries interfere to protect his dad. Heck, I want to see her bossing Gilgamesh around.
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2011-10-28, 06:23 | Link #24 |
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No actually, a certain ritual has to be done, which is also how they replaced Rin's "mana link" () from Ero method into little crest (dolphin!) one.
If I remember correctly, Shirou once complained in the game that Kiritsugu didn't even bother giving him the Emiya magic crest. That being said, it is extremely unlikely someone would give their magic crest to anyone not blood related to them, due to the origin and purpose of the crest.
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2011-10-28, 10:00 | Link #27 |
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Ah indeed, I mixed up, for some reason, I thought it was Shirou who was dumbfounded by the use of reinforcement instead of "standard magecraft".
Reflects quite well how long I didn't read that.
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2011-10-28, 10:09 | Link #28 |
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One of my biggest fears is that Kiritsugu will end up killing Kariya simply due to unfortunate circumstances, when they actually could've helped each other. It's not based on anything but it would be so like Urobuchi Gen to do something like that...
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2011-10-28, 11:17 | Link #29 |
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I can't see Kiritsugu helping Kariya under any circumstances, really. From what Kotomine said about him in F/SN, Kiritsugu was an adept of F/SN Archer's philosophy of killing hundreds to save thousands and abandoning those who can't be saved any more to save those who still can. Kariya is the very definition of a person who can't be saved any more, since he's literally got an expiration date now, plus he's keeping a destructive force like Berserker around, so I really don't see Kiritsugu thinking twice about killing him, even if he learned Kariya's doing it to save an unfortunate and innocent little girl. And unfortunate as that may be, it does indeed sound right up Urobuchi's alley.
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And to answer your question, Rin is just a beginner, she doesn't have the crest yet, and transferral from a dead mage is possible.
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2011-10-29, 21:36 | Link #36 |
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F/SN Berserker > F/Z Berserker
Heracles is the second strongest Servant after Gilgamesh. Sad that they shoved him into Berserker class... Imagine if he was Archer or Saber, able to use Nine Lives... *salivates*
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And btw heracles was strong, bet very very slow, our archer class in FSN did circles around him and took a few lives =). And lets not forget that the stronger the noble phantasm the more lives it can take in 1 hit =). IMO F/Z berserker > F/SN berserker I could see him grabbin that huge cleaver and making that his own too haha.
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2011-10-29, 23:52 | Link #38 | |
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Also, Heracles was actually in-game as fast as Saber was (and faster when Mad Enhanced activated instead of just sanity removed). The anime was a rather poor representation. Remember, Heracles has the stats to be any class except Caster. This means he could even be a Lancer which is, by definition, the fastest class. Besides, that rock sword isn't a noble phantasm. Heracles just swings it ultra hard. |
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2011-10-30, 00:04 | Link #39 | |
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Sure, Zero Berserker can turn anything into a Noble Phantasm, but we can surmise from the fact that Lancer can cut said Pole Phantasm is that they're not A-rank NPs. Zero Berserker does seem to be far more skillful in weapon arts compared to Herakles, but having skill is useless when it won't be able to even injure him, much less kill him 10 times.
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2011-10-30, 00:09 | Link #40 | |
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Incredible episode. That Berserker. That angry Gil. That Broskander. That noble Lancer. That crazy caster. That budget. That action. That everything...
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