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aliensquare · 2004-06-09, 06:36

im trying to make a karaoke.
i just need it to do it simply without visual effects.

i put the [effect] on Karaoke.
and I had it played.
when it shows up, always half is colored Pink, and the other in Yellow.
and there isn't any actions going on.

you can see a screenshot here:
http://server5.uploadit.org/files/he...27-capture.JPG
what is the problem? help me plz kthx ^^

TaMz · 2004-06-09, 06:51

videoplayer cannot show it correctly by itself...
you have to encode it first...
and of course VDub's preview screen will show it before encoding...

aliensquare · 2004-06-09, 06:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaMz

videoplayer cannot show it correctly by itself...
you have to encode it first...
and of course VDub's preview screen will show it before encoding...

i see thanks

jinzen · 2004-06-16, 00:08

hi minna~

I need some help with the transformation command. [<t1>,<t2>,]

I know that t1 is the start time and t2 length of time. What i find confusing is how you find these numbers. Say you have {\k18} as your first karaoke thingy, so it's \t(180, __ ) right? ^^; I'm not really sure how to find t2 after using it a second time. @_@

Can someone also explain the diff in centiseconds (ssa) and milliseconds (sfx). In terms of how diff it is in numbers...

thnx

Enragin_Angel · 2004-06-16, 00:20

\k18 converts into \t(0000,0180,1,\effect)
t1 is the starting time. You want t1 to start at 0 seconds. However, for the next karaoke syllable, you want t1 to start at the previous syllable's t2

For example:

Changing {\K18}Ke{\K18}ro{\K18}ro

into some cheesy effect like...

{\shad0\t(0,180,1,\shad10)}Ke{\shad0\t(180,360,1,\ shad10)}ro{\shad0\t(360,540,1,\shad10)}ro

Mr_Paper · 2004-06-16, 00:21

Bah... Beaten to it.

... Isn't the first time value the start time, the seond value the end time and the third value the acceleration? So why to you have all the transforms starting at the same time?

The difference between centiseconds (SSA) and milliseconds (SFX/VDub) is the degree of precision in timing. It's sounds corny but centiseconds/hundredth's of a second are accurate to two decimal places while milliseconds/thousandth's of a second are accurate to three. It's 0.99 versus 0.999.

zalas · 2004-06-16, 00:43

Oh, and make sure the starting and ending times of multiple \t() sequences don't overlap. That is, don't do \t(0,1000,\blah)\t(1000,2000,\blah)

Enragin_Angel · 2004-06-16, 01:13

Yeah, I got the acceleration in the wrong place...

Mr_Paper · 2004-06-16, 01:34

Ah... I though it was some kind of special trick. -.-;

/me admittedly doesn't use the transform function that often.

jinzen · 2004-06-16, 02:20

thnx guys~ ^___^ I think i get it now, but i'm still unsure about getting t2

Are there any helpful tips to get it? Like depending on the "k", something in vdub/ssa that can help to get the value? Or you sorta have to play around to figure it out XD;

Kasshin · 2004-06-16, 05:24

There are quite a few timing styles of effects. Playing around would be best to see which timing styles are suitable for which types of songs. Using the start time and end time of each syllable inside a \t is probably the first way to approach this. From your example, t1 would actually be 0, and t2 is actually 180, if you're still confused.

Kanji13 · 2004-07-03, 09:56

Hello

Can anyone write the code that allow the translator to Karaoke from right to left.

Mr_Paper · 2004-07-03, 13:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiragana

Hello

Can anyone write the code that allow the translator to Karaoke from right to left, well since my language use right to left format

Unfortunately {\k##} cannot be set to go right to left. However, you can make a {\t} style karaoke that goes right to left.

See this:

Code:

Dialogue: Marked=0,0:00:00.00,0:03:00.00,*Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\alpha&HC0&\t(0,240,1,\alpha&H00&)\t(240,480,1,\alpha&HC0&)}Ko
{\alpha&HC0&\t(480,720,1,\alpha&H00&)\t(720,960,1,\alpha&HC0&)}ko{\alpha&HC0&\t(960,1200,1,\alpha&H00&)\t(1200,1440,1,\alpha&HC0&)}ro
 
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:00:00.00,0:03:00.00,*Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\alpha&HC0&\t(960,1200,1,\alpha&H00&)\t(1200,1440,1,\alpha&HC0&)}Ko
{\alpha&HC0&\t(480,720,1,\alpha&H00&)\t(720,960,1,\alpha&HC0&)}ko{\alpha&HC0&\t(0,240,1,\alpha&H00&)\t(240,480,1,\alpha&HC0&)}ro

Where the first line will karaoke left to right, the second will karaoke right to left.

You simply need to switch the timings around; there is more to it than that, but it should give you the basic idea.

Kanji13 · 2004-07-03, 20:52

Thank you Mr_Paper for the info, it was helpful.
But can you write the other tricks for the same matter, cause still some problems with text after doing the karaoke operation words gets corrupted.

Mr_Paper · 2004-07-04, 11:28

How is the text getting corrupted?

Char Aznable · 2004-07-04, 13:33

i think she means by "right to left" that she writes in arabic language...i don't blame her for the corruption in the words order .

Kanji13 · 2004-07-04, 15:44

I used the code :
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:00:00.00,0:03:00.00,*Default,,0000,0000 ,0000,,{\alpha&HC0&\t(960,1200,1,\alpha&H00&)\t(12 00,1440,1,\alpha&HC0&)}Ko
{\alpha&HC0&\t(480,720,1,\alpha&H00&)\t(720,960,1, \alpha&HC0&)}ko{\alpha&HC0&\t(0,240,1,\alpha&H00&) \t(240,480,1,\alpha&HC0&)}ro

and it worked as you said, but whenever the word finish the EFFECT (as in your example alpha), it moves to the end of line,i tried evrything that i know but nothing solved. i know there is no solution for this problem, but maybe someone have an idea how to solve it.

Mr_Paper · 2004-07-04, 17:54

After some experimenting I managed to duplicate the problem, but I can't seem to figure out a way to correct it within one line. As a result I came up with this, it's not pretty (especially since every syllable becomes a new line and has to be positioned manually) but it seems to work:

Code:

Dialogue: Marked=0,0:00:00.00,0:03:00.00,*Default,right-first,0000,0000,0000,,{\pos(875,740)\alpha&HC0&\t(0,240,1,\alpha&H00&)\t(240,480,1,\alpha&HC0&)} النصيحة الذهبية في
 
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:00:00.00,0:03:00.00,*Default,middle-middle,0000,0000,0000,,{\pos(675,740)\alpha&HC0&\t(480,720,1,\alpha&H00&)\t(720,960,1,\alpha&HC0&)} كيفية تعلم
 
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:00:00.00,0:03:00.00,*Default,left-last,0000,0000,0000,,{\pos(525,740)\alpha&HC0&\t(960,1200,1,\alpha&H00&)\t(1200,1440,1,\alpha&HC0&)}اللغة العربية

*before anyone takes the time to comment, I know, my Arabic isn't the best*

It's not the prettiest solution to the problem, but for the moment it's the only one I can come up with.

Kanji13 · 2004-07-04, 20:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Paper

After some experimenting I managed to duplicate the problem, but I can't seem to figure out a way to correct it within one line. As a result I came up with this, it's not pretty (especially since every syllable becomes a new line and has to be positioned manually) but it seems to work:

Code:

Dialogue: Marked=0,0:00:00.00,0:03:00.00,*Default,right-first,0000,0000,0000,,{\pos(875,740)\alpha&HC0&\t(0,240,1,\alpha&H00&)\t(240,480,1,\alpha&HC0&)} النصيحة الذهبية في
 
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:00:00.00,0:03:00.00,*Default,middle-middle,0000,0000,0000,,{\pos(675,740)\alpha&HC0&\t(480,720,1,\alpha&H00&)\t(720,960,1,\alpha&HC0&)} كيفية تعلم
 
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:00:00.00,0:03:00.00,*Default,left-last,0000,0000,0000,,{\pos(525,740)\alpha&HC0&\t(960,1200,1,\alpha&H00&)\t(1200,1440,1,\alpha&HC0&)}اللغة العربية

*before anyone takes the time to comment, I know, my Arabic isn't the best*

It's not the prettiest solution to the problem, but for the moment it's the only one I can come up with.

Thanks Mr_Paper, it worked perfectly

Kanji13 · 2004-07-06, 04:10

Thanks All for the valuable info

2004-06-09, 06:36	Link #21
aliensquare Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Incheon Age: 37	need help on karaoke im trying to make a karaoke. i just need it to do it simply without visual effects. i put the [effect] on Karaoke. and I had it played. when it shows up, always half is colored Pink, and the other in Yellow. and there isn't any actions going on. you can see a screenshot here: http://server5.uploadit.org/files/he...27-capture.JPG what is the problem? help me plz kthx ^^

2004-06-16, 00:08	Link #24
jinzen Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004	help with karaoke hi minna~ I need some help with the transformation command. [<t1>,<t2>,] I know that t1 is the start time and t2 length of time. What i find confusing is how you find these numbers. Say you have {\k18} as your first karaoke thingy, so it's \t(180, __ ) right? ^^; I'm not really sure how to find t2 after using it a second time. @_@ Can someone also explain the diff in centiseconds (ssa) and milliseconds (sfx). In terms of how diff it is in numbers... thnx

2004-06-16, 00:20	Link #25
Enragin_Angel ナマケモノ Join Date: Jul 2003	\k18 converts into \t(0000,0180,1,\effect) t1 is the starting time. You want t1 to start at 0 seconds. However, for the next karaoke syllable, you want t1 to start at the previous syllable's t2 For example: Changing {\K18}Ke{\K18}ro{\K18}ro into some cheesy effect like... {\shad0\t(0,180,1,\shad10)}Ke{\shad0\t(180,360,1,\ shad10)}ro{\shad0\t(360,540,1,\shad10)}ro Last edited by Enragin_Angel; 2004-06-16 at 01:14.

2004-06-16, 00:21	Link #26
Mr_Paper Hmm... Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Looking for his book...	Bah... Beaten to it. ... Isn't the first time value the start time, the seond value the end time and the third value the acceleration? So why to you have all the transforms starting at the same time? The difference between centiseconds (SSA) and milliseconds (SFX/VDub) is the degree of precision in timing. It's sounds corny but centiseconds/hundredth's of a second are accurate to two decimal places while milliseconds/thousandth's of a second are accurate to three. It's 0.99 versus 0.999. Last edited by Mr_Paper; 2004-06-16 at 00:34.

2004-07-03, 09:56	Link #32
Kanji13 Anime Time Join Date: Jul 2004	Hello Can anyone write the code that allow the translator to Karaoke from right to left. Last edited by Kanji13; 2004-07-06 at 04:17.

2004-06-09, 06:51	Link #22
TaMz ninj4 from the north Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Espoo, Finland Age: 36	videoplayer cannot show it correctly by itself... you have to encode it first... and of course VDub's preview screen will show it before encoding...

2004-06-16, 00:43	Link #27
zalas tsubasa o sagashite Join Date: Jul 2003	Oh, and make sure the starting and ending times of multiple \t() sequences don't overlap. That is, don't do \t(0,1000,\blah)\t(1000,2000,\blah)

2004-06-16, 01:13	Link #28
Enragin_Angel ナマケモノ Join Date: Jul 2003	Yeah, I got the acceleration in the wrong place...

2004-06-16, 01:34	Link #29
Mr_Paper Hmm... Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Looking for his book...	Ah... I though it was some kind of special trick. -.-; /me admittedly doesn't use the transform function that often.

2004-06-16, 02:20	Link #30
jinzen Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004	thnx guys~ ^___^ I think i get it now, but i'm still unsure about getting t2 Are there any helpful tips to get it? Like depending on the "k", something in vdub/ssa that can help to get the value? Or you sorta have to play around to figure it out XD;

2004-06-16, 05:24	Link #31
Kasshin Kasshin X Kasshin Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC	There are quite a few timing styles of effects. Playing around would be best to see which timing styles are suitable for which types of songs. Using the start time and end time of each syllable inside a \t is probably the first way to approach this. From your example, t1 would actually be 0, and t2 is actually 180, if you're still confused.

2004-07-03, 20:52	Link #34
Kanji13 Anime Time Join Date: Jul 2004	Thank you Mr_Paper for the info, it was helpful. But can you write the other tricks for the same matter, cause still some problems with text after doing the karaoke operation words gets corrupted.

2004-07-04, 11:28	Link #35
Mr_Paper Hmm... Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Looking for his book...	How is the text getting corrupted?

2004-07-04, 13:33	Link #36
Char Aznable Newtype Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In My Sazabi	i think she means by "right to left" that she writes in arabic language...i don't blame her for the corruption in the words order .

2004-07-04, 15:44	Link #37
Kanji13 Anime Time Join Date: Jul 2004	I used the code : Dialogue: Marked=0,0:00:00.00,0:03:00.00,Default,,0000,0000 ,0000,,{\alpha&HC0&\t(960,1200,1,\alpha&H00&)\t(12 00,1440,1,\alpha&HC0&)}Ko {\alpha&HC0&\t(480,720,1,\alpha&H00&)\t(720,960,1, \alpha&HC0&)}ko{\alpha&HC0&\t(0,240,1,\alpha&H00&) \t(240,480,1,\alpha&HC0&)}ro and it worked as you said, but whenever the word finish the EFFECT (as in your example alpha), it moves to the end of line,i tried evrything that i know but nothing solved. i know there is no solution for this problem, but maybe someone have an idea how to solve it. Last edited by Kanji13; 2004-07-06 at 04:16.*

2004-07-04, 17:54	Link #38
Mr_Paper Hmm... Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Looking for his book...	After some experimenting I managed to duplicate the problem, but I can't seem to figure out a way to correct it within one line. As a result I came up with this, it's not pretty (especially since every syllable becomes a new line and has to be positioned manually) but it seems to work: Code: Dialogue: Marked=0,0:00:00.00,0:03:00.00,Default,right-first,0000,0000,0000,,{\pos(875,740)\alpha&HC0&\t(0,240,1,\alpha&H00&)\t(240,480,1,\alpha&HC0&)} النصيحة الذهبية في Dialogue: Marked=0,0:00:00.00,0:03:00.00,Default,middle-middle,0000,0000,0000,,{\pos(675,740)\alpha&HC0&\t(480,720,1,\alpha&H00&)\t(720,960,1,\alpha&HC0&)} كيفية تعلم Dialogue: Marked=0,0:00:00.00,0:03:00.00,Default,left-last,0000,0000,0000,,{\pos(525,740)\alpha&HC0&\t(960,1200,1,\alpha&H00&)\t(1200,1440,1,\alpha&HC0&)}اللغة العربية before anyone takes the time to comment, I know, my Arabic isn't the best* It's not the prettiest solution to the problem, but for the moment it's the only one I can come up with.

2004-07-06, 04:10	Link #40
Kanji13 Anime Time Join Date: Jul 2004	Thanks All for the valuable info