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james0246 · 2012-10-30, 11:40

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Originally Posted by Blackbeard D. Kuma

Good riddance. Oda was pretending to have Monet be more threatening than she really was and he finally wrapped this up to move the story along.

Agreed. I liked Monet's design, but she wasn't a very compelling threat and Oda seemed to be bending over backward just to make her seem like a threat.

Still, I really hate the idea of Zoro supposedly not going all out simply because Monet is female. Sanji's chauvinism/sexism is somewhat funny (since his is under a veil of chivalry...even if he objectifies women worse than ever), but Zoro's, if it exists, would go beyond the threshold of comedy and becoming downright demeaning.

ZGoten · 2012-10-30, 11:45

I wonder if that was CoC that Zorro used to paralyze Monet in her fear. Anyway, it was a nice chapter with some nice additions to Zorro's character. As expected though, Tashigi wasn't really able to keep up with Monet.

Dengar · 2012-10-30, 12:55

CoC does that mean the Overlord's haki? not sure about the "official names". Anyway, I highly doubt any strawhat other than Luffy has it. Besides this couldn't have been it, seeing how Monet actually WAS able to move afterwards.

Besides, Tashigi explained that it was pure fear.

ZGoten · 2012-10-30, 12:58

She explained that it was fear, but fear can easily be caused by the conquerer's haki.
Anyway, it doesn't matter since all that's possible at this point is to speculate.

Dengar · 2012-10-30, 13:27

If it was the overlord's haki, then she would've said it was the overlord's haki. Unless she is dumb.

noktown · 2012-10-30, 13:53

I don't think Oda would do that,more than 1 Straw-hat with CoC that is...

Zoro is monstrously strong without it,I mean till now we haven't seen ANYTHING from Zoro,he is toying around with everyone,and the Ko's usually happen off-panel.

SilverSyko · 2012-10-30, 14:04

What I found interesting was the revelation that Zoro actually told Tashigi she resembled Kuina all the way back in Alabasta. I don't think that scene was ever shown.

But yeah, some Zoro awesomeness is always nice to see. Tashigi wasn't bad either but she's far from Zoro's level. If Zoro was using haki in that slice against Monet, that would've been gruesome.

Well that's one foe taken care of, that just leaves Vergo and Caesar. Shinokuni can't exactly be "defeated".

Endscape · 2012-10-30, 14:08

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Originally Posted by Dengar

CoC does that mean the Overlord's haki? not sure about the "official names". Anyway, I highly doubt any strawhat other than Luffy has it. Besides this couldn't have been it, seeing how Monet actually WAS able to move afterwards.

Besides, Tashigi explained that it was pure fear.

Actually, I think Zoro does have CoC.

After all, if Luffy is the next Roger, then Zoro is the next Raleigh. Plus, when Luffy used CoC during the fight against Hordy, Zoro mentioned that if Luffy couldn't do that, then they'd have to get a new captain. I took that as meaning that he, Zoro, would take over if Luffy didn't have CoC, since he had it.

james0246 · 2012-10-30, 14:14

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Originally Posted by SilverSyko

Shinokuni can't exactly be "defeated".

Luffy will inhale an island's worth of air and then, in combination with Haki, will blow Shinokuni away, disassembling the creature to the point were it can't reform.

Or, he'll simply befriend it and Shinokuni will be the new nakama

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marvelB · 2012-10-30, 15:13

Huh, wasn't expecting a chapter to arrive this early. Anyways, it was alright. And honestly, I really wonder how people EVER doubted that Zoro could use haki in the first place. It was even confirmed by Luffy right after he made the alliance with Law, for crying out loud!

Also, it was nice knowing you, Monet. She went down pretty quickly, but at least she actually somewhat lasted in a battle unlike a certain drunken octopus from the previous arc who also had a lot of prior build-up. Anyways, next chapter will probably focus on either Smoker or Luffy next.....

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Originally Posted by ZGoten

I wonder if that was CoC that Zorro used to paralyze Monet in her fear.

Personally, I think he was just intimidating her. It's not like conqueror's haki is the ONLY way to intimidate enemies, after all. He could have just as easily used his "sakki" (killing intent) to freeze her in her tracks (uh, no pun intended, of course

).

Actually, I'm a little surprised that nobody else commented on Tashigi using Soru. So that means she was also trained in Rokushiki, then. I wonder if she can use all six of those techniques by now....?

Mateus · 2012-10-30, 15:46

So Zoro's training under Mihawk possibly comes into play (the ability to cut logias), and I guess since Oda rarely kills off his characters that the Happy Harpy has simply been KOed by Tashigi's attack (personally I thought she was far too monstrous and evil to be a new nakama).

khoa1708 · 2012-10-30, 16:08

Monet not moving is possibly like "deer in the headlights" kinda thing... too frozen with fear to move
i believe zoro has shown he can highly intimidate with fear, not haki, in the past

orangejuicetang · 2012-10-30, 16:23

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Originally Posted by Endscape

Actually, I think Zoro does have CoC.

After all, if Luffy is the next Roger, then Zoro is the next Raleigh. Plus, when Luffy used CoC during the fight against Hordy, Zoro mentioned that if Luffy couldn't do that, then they'd have to get a new captain. I took that as meaning that he, Zoro, would take over if Luffy didn't have CoC, since he had it.

If Roger, Rayleigh, and Shanks all had CoC haki on Roger's crew, if we go by parallels, does that mean that:

Luffy, Zoro, and... who would be the Shanks parallel? Ussop?

Xellos-_^ · 2012-10-30, 16:24

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Originally Posted by orangejuicetang

If Roger, Rayleigh, and Shanks all had CoC haki on Roger's crew, if we go by parallels, does that mean that:

Luffy, Zoro, and... who would be the Shanks parallel? Ussop?

I doubt Shank had Haki at that age.

khoa1708 · 2012-10-30, 16:26

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Originally Posted by orangejuicetang

If Roger, Rayleigh, and Shanks all had CoC haki on Roger's crew, if we go by parallels, does that mean that:

Luffy, Zoro, and... who would be the Shanks parallel? Ussop?

lol... CHOPPER!

Diveman · 2012-10-30, 16:47

I hope we see Sanji actually beat someone soon. The fight in Fisherman island wasn't too good for me.

Kona · 2012-10-30, 17:29

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Originally Posted by Xellos-_^

I doubt Shank had Haki at that age.

We barely know anything about Rogers crew abilities and Haki usage so to say that is way too early. He could of well been using Haki since he survived till the end. Rayleigh probably told Buggy n Shanks about Haki and how to use it so it was up to them if they used it or not.

james0246 · 2012-10-30, 18:22

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Originally Posted by Xellos-_^

I doubt Shank had Haki at that age.

Ace (or Luffy) was able to use Haki (at least a Haki burst) at an incredibly young age (8? 9? Somewhere around there), so why not Shanks (who was an active crewmate with pirates that utilized Haki all the time)?

marvelB · 2012-10-30, 19:00

Oh, I forgot to comment on the ministory earlier!

LOL, looks like Caribou's brother lost to that commodore, after all (so I guess that proves that there ARE G5 marines below the VA level who aren't pure fodder). And it figures that ol' Muddy would abandon his bro just like that (he's THAT kind of dirty bastard, after all). I am curious as to where our swampy friend's destination lies, though.....

paradox13 · 2012-10-30, 20:23

For Luffy's crew, there does not have to be a direct parallel to every member of Roger's crew.

2012-10-30, 11:45	Link #22
ZGoten Custom User Title Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Germany Age: 34	I wonder if that was CoC that Zorro used to paralyze Monet in her fear. Anyway, it was a nice chapter with some nice additions to Zorro's character. As expected though, Tashigi wasn't really able to keep up with Monet. __________________ Truth is elusive to those who refuse to see with both eyes.

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ZGoten Custom User Title Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Germany Age: 34	She explained that it was fear, but fear can easily be caused by the conquerer's haki. Anyway, it doesn't matter since all that's possible at this point is to speculate. __________________ Truth is elusive to those who refuse to see with both eyes.

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SilverSyko Okuyasu the Bird Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada Age: 32	What I found interesting was the revelation that Zoro actually told Tashigi she resembled Kuina all the way back in Alabasta. I don't think that scene was ever shown. But yeah, some Zoro awesomeness is always nice to see. Tashigi wasn't bad either but she's far from Zoro's level. If Zoro was using haki in that slice against Monet, that would've been gruesome. Well that's one foe taken care of, that just leaves Vergo and Caesar. Shinokuni can't exactly be "defeated". __________________

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Mateus Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011	So Zoro's training under Mihawk possibly comes into play (the ability to cut logias), and I guess since Oda rarely kills off his characters that the Happy Harpy has simply been KOed by Tashigi's attack (personally I thought she was far too monstrous and evil to be a new nakama). __________________ Account closing soon, found original account, thanks.

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khoa1708 www.kh0a.net Join Date: May 2004	Monet not moving is possibly like "deer in the headlights" kinda thing... too frozen with fear to move i believe zoro has shown he can highly intimidate with fear, not haki, in the past __________________

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Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	CoC does that mean the Overlord's haki? not sure about the "official names". Anyway, I highly doubt any strawhat other than Luffy has it. Besides this couldn't have been it, seeing how Monet actually WAS able to move afterwards. Besides, Tashigi explained that it was pure fear.

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Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	If it was the overlord's haki, then she would've said it was the overlord's haki. Unless she is dumb.

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noktown Senior Member Join Date: May 2006	I don't think Oda would do that,more than 1 Straw-hat with CoC that is... Zoro is monstrously strong without it,I mean till now we haven't seen ANYTHING from Zoro,he is toying around with everyone,and the Ko's usually happen off-panel.

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Diveman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011	I hope we see Sanji actually beat someone soon. The fight in Fisherman island wasn't too good for me.

2012-10-30, 19:00	Link #39
marvelB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Oh, I forgot to comment on the ministory earlier! LOL, looks like Caribou's brother lost to that commodore, after all (so I guess that proves that there ARE G5 marines below the VA level who aren't pure fodder). And it figures that ol' Muddy would abandon his bro just like that (he's THAT kind of dirty bastard, after all). I am curious as to where our swampy friend's destination lies, though.....

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