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Old 2017-09-26, 06:51   Link #61
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They COULD have released Tristan as an all new frame and then sold a Revive NT-1 using the same frame later, but NOOOO~~~~ -_-
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Old 2017-09-26, 07:35   Link #62
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They COULD have released Tristan as an all new frame and then sold a Revive NT-1 using the same frame later, but NOOOO~~~~ -_-
Someone needs to be fired or at least demoted for that decision. Seriously, this is not GBF. You're not suppose to recycle HG Alex for HG Tristan. Even if they're lazy, they could've recycled HG RX-78-2 Revive and it would've worked a lot better.
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Old 2017-09-26, 21:24   Link #63
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Old 2017-09-28, 21:46   Link #64
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Why Shot Lancers? Style aside, Shot Lancers exist for two reasons: firstly, they're only effective because MS sizes by F91 were scaled down, along with armor; and secondly, they're useful for combat within a colony. The former scale-down hasn't occurred yet and in fact, the Char's Counter Attack era mecha are overall the biggest and most-heavily armored of the UC, so using them over a Jegan's beam rifle seems like crippling your Jegan's offensive capability for little reason.
The Shot Lancer has prominent beam tips that can penetrate the armor of CCA-era MSs though. And the size of the weapon is also in-scale with Jegan-size MSs.

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The Shot Lancer also still retains the rifle function, so why not? If the pilots prefer that weapon then so be it. If not, they can still choose to bring the usual rifle.

Plus, bridging the gap between CCA & F91 is cool . Just like how Unicorn bridging the Hathaway's Flash era by showing the Gustavs.
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Old 2017-09-28, 23:48   Link #65
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Unicorn also did some bridging with the Lotos.
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Old 2017-09-29, 00:06   Link #66
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Eh, Okay then, but I still don’t like f91 onwards till Reconguista, my reason is mostly due to disliking micronization, both in-universe and in the form of shorter gundam models, I can put up with the Loto since its more troop carrier than Mobile suit but leave me out of late UC, I understand you guys like it so okay, go ahead, only kits I bought of late UC are the Crossbone x-1 and LM312V04 and I’m really dissapointed in them being shorter than the rest of my otherwise uniform in height models.
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Old 2017-09-29, 02:07   Link #67
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Unicorn also did some bridging with the Lotos.
IIRC the Lotos are already there in the novel so I don't really count that as an extra effort if true. On the other hand, IIRC the proto Shot Lancer and the Gustavs weren't in the original novels of Twilight Axis & Unicorn, so I'll give credits to the anime-staffs for their extra work in bridging the gaps between eras.

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I’m really dissapointed in them being shorter than the rest of my otherwise uniform in height models.
Eh, if uniformity in height is one of your primary reasons for hating late UC (F-91 onwards) then what is your opinion on CCA-to-HF era of Mobile Suits? The Nu Gundam & Unicorn alone easily destroyed the height-uniformity by their towering height that almost dwarfed the previous Gundams. Heck, the mass-produced Zaku III already destroyed the Zaku height-uniformity by being the giant of its kind. And you just wait until Bandai release HG Xi Gundam & Penelope. They will destroy the height-uniformity (even more than F91 suits) by making standard-height Gundams look like little kids .

To me, variation is never bad. The MSs in UC-verse developed rather naturally to fit what the era needed, just like cellphones. There was an era where CPs started big before gradually becoming smaller and smaller before the rising popularity of touchscreen smartphones with their big screens that made CP's size grew large again. Same thing with cars & fighter planes. Now, small drones can be more effective and/or efficient in a good number of operations than sending F-22s.
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Old 2017-09-29, 02:43   Link #68
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The bridging with the Lotos that I was referring to is that they're the more successful predecessors of the Guntank R-44s.
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Old 2017-09-29, 03:11   Link #69
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The bridging with the Lotos that I was referring to is that they're the more successful predecessors of the Guntank R-44s.
Yup, I know. The Lotos is built-in future bridging in the Unicorn novel. Twilight Axis novel also has built-in future bridging in the form of Meitzer Ronah. But what I want to appreciate here is the anime-staffs going the extra mile by making some more bridging that's not even in the novels (hence Jegan's Shot Lancer and Gustav Karls ).
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Old 2017-09-29, 05:03   Link #70
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IIRC the Lotos are already there in the novel so I don't really count that as an extra effort if true. On the other hand, IIRC the proto Shot Lancer and the Gustavs weren't in the original novels of Twilight Axis & Unicorn, so I'll give credits to the anime-staffs for their extra work in bridging the gaps between eras.

Eh, if uniformity in height is one of your primary reasons for hating late UC (F-91 onwards) then what is your opinion on CCA-to-HF era of Mobile Suits? The Nu Gundam & Unicorn alone easily destroyed the height-uniformity by their towering height that almost dwarfed the previous Gundams. Heck, the mass-produced Zaku III already destroyed the Zaku height-uniformity by being the giant of its kind. And you just wait until Bandai release HG Xi Gundam & Penelope. They will destroy the height-uniformity (even more than F91 suits) by making standard-height Gundams look like little kids .

To me, variation is never bad. The MSs in UC-verse developed rather naturally to fit what the era needed, just like cellphones. There was an era where CPs started big before gradually becoming smaller and smaller before the rising popularity of touchscreen smartphones with their big screens that made CP's size grew large again. Same thing with cars & fighter planes. Now, small drones can be more effective and/or efficient in a good number of operations than sending F-22s.
Well, a couple meters extra height is no problem, but the f91 onwards tend to be around the 15 meter tall size, whereas most Mobile Suits tend to be around 19-20 meters tall, so its more noticable, its like putting a regular sized guy next to Gary coleman, at least in the future they went back to 19-20 meters tall mobile suits.
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Old 2017-09-29, 05:27   Link #71
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so anyone remembers Crossbone Vanguard's Zondo Gei which is like only 10 meters in height? whom they later proceed to abandon them by turning them into decoys in favor of the stolen Jupiter Empire units...........
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Old 2017-09-29, 07:04   Link #72
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You mean the Mobile Suit Jawa’s?
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Old 2017-09-29, 07:27   Link #73
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You mean the Mobile Suit Jawa’s?
also note that Jupiter Empire has the EMS-07 Erebado which is a Xenomorph of the Alien franchise in Mobile Suit form, that maybe because the Jovian engineers were a huge fan of H.R. Giger.
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Old 2019-02-21, 06:25   Link #74
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On another news, Twilight Axis manga adaptation of the novel is about to end. Here's hoping someone would be kind enough to fansub it if no one license it.

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This year's March issue of Kodansha's Monthly Young Magazine announced on Wednesday that Azusa Makishima's manga adaptation of Ark Performance and Koujirou Nakamura's Mobile Suit Gundam Twilight AXIS novel will end in the next issue on March 20.

The manga launched in October 2017 and the second volume shipped on October 5. Ark Performance served as concept adviser.

Ark Performance (Arpeggio of Blue Steel) and Nakamura (Mobile Suit Gundam Climax U.C. - Tsumugareshi Kizuna manga, Arpeggio of Blue Steel - Ars Nova anime scripts) launched the novel in Yatate Bunko — Sunrise's light novel imprint — in November 2016. The Yatate Bunko site published the 20th and final chapter in December 2017.

Gundam.info describes the story:

Late U.C. 0096. The Earth Federation government, regarding the existence of the "psycho-frame" as a threat, organizes the Mastema special forces team under the command of Lieutenant JG Mehmet Merca, a member of its intelligence bureau. The team is ordered to enter and investigate part of the shattered asteroid Axis, which is drifting in the Earth Sphere. The investigative team accompanying Mehmet includes two civilians named Arlette Almage and Danton Highleg, who were formerly an engineer and a test pilot with the Principality of Zeon and Neo Zeon.

While investigating a supposedly unoccupied facility within Axis, Mastema comes under attack from a new model of Gundam that belongs to a private militia called Birnam. Arlette and Danton fight back using a red Zaku III Custom, a mobile suit they once helped develop. As the fighting escalates, Arlette, following a secret agenda of her own, makes her way to the wreckage of the Sazabi that lies abandoned on the surface of Axis...
Twilight Axis really deserve a better anime adaptation. It really serves well as a precursor to NT when it comes to the governments being obsessed/terrified of the psychoframe technology after Laplace incident.
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