(L) Mirai Nikki (Series)

[miketyson]

Anime-fan10: Yeah, it's shounen. "Shounen" is more about which demographic something's targeted at and where it was published than the actual content, and Mirai Nikki is *definitely* a shounen manga.

You're not wrong that the content is different from many of the more famous shounens -- eg, it's pretty different from any of the "big 3" -- but it's definitely not a real seinen work (the writing level is *definitely* not at an adult level, even though the story touches on adult themes).

warita: the stuff with Yukiteru's dad will definitely make more sense after another episode or two, so hang in there. In the manga iirc you kinda have to put a couple of the pieces together yourself, but all the pieces are (eventually) there; it's the kind of thing I could see this adaption making more explicit.

As a non-spoiler "spoiler": the stuff with Marco and Ai this week seems to be setting up their omake from the manga, which is one of my favorites (...still waiting on/hoping for the 10th's, sigh).

[aohige]

Originally Posted by Anime-fan10

I enjoy this anime so much and the last episode was so good. The plot and pace of the anime continues to impress me. I was hoping someone could clear something up for me. I noticed this anime is under the category of Shounen. I consider a lot of the material to be that of seinen since morality plays a big part and there is romance involved. Thank you to anyone that clears this up for me.

Like the above posts say, "shounen" is not a subjective view.
It is not content that determines it, otherwise everyone would have their own definition.

Where the manga is published, therefore the demographics it's aimed at, determines it.
Mirai Nikki ran in Monthly Shounen Ace. Therefore it's shounen.
Likewise, nothing ever published in Weekly Shounen Jump would be considered anything other than shounen.

[DXMichael]

Bwahahaha XD From what Yuki has shown the entire anime, I would never think that his father would be so pervy I guess Yuki just took more of his mothers side The start had me smiling the entire time, and not just because of the thought of Minene sitting on top of someone But...Yuki's dad looked more like a rapist if anything when clutching onto Minene

Ohhhh, seeing Ai the way she was at the start of the episode changed my opinion of her. She's no killer! She just wants someone to love! How adorable It appears that sevenths diary does have some flaws afterall, eh? You can't hide it from your partner

After seeing that scene, Marco and Ai (Seventh) Don't actually look like the villians. They just seem like an average couple trying to make it through their relationship. Their good people to each other.

I'm just loving Yuki and Yuki's dad in this episode And to top it off, Minene is joining in on the fun XD But woah, Yuno! Stop grabbing knife and jumping to conclusion everytime someone new comes into Yuki's life! Then again, i'm surprised she didn't try to attack Minene. Yuno doesn't really trust her does she?

Holy hell I didn't expect that. What kind of selfish father is Yuki's dad!? My good feelings towards him have now gone down the drain. Ok Yuno, go ahead, get a knife and activate psycho mode and kill him!

*A few moments later, I see Yuno's psycho eye*

Ok, ok that's too psycho for me, calm down Yuno, calm down! But you can't really blame Yuki's dad, he has no idea that destroying the phone will kill Yuki.

[Kusa-San]

A great ep once again ! I don't know what to think of Yukki's dad. Does he know the truth or not ? It it's not the case, then I can undertand. However if he knows the truth, Yuno can stab him !

Btw, I hope he'll choose Yuno's hand :3

Minene is great as always too !

Damn, this serie has so many great chara ! Can't wait for the next one !

[julez]

Originally Posted by warita

Oh.... and how abou the ending? Did anybody get it? Why would the 7ths want Yukkis dad? Either I failed to understand something here, or it will be revealed in the next episode.

Kurou was being ordered by eleventh to destroy Yukki's phone in order to have his debts erased... I think it was eleventh, can't remember what number they said it was? Nevertheless he is connected with one of the diary owners and they want him because of that connection. That's what I surmised out of it anyway.

Originally Posted by Kusa-San

A great ep once again ! I don't know what to think of Yukki's dad. Does he know the truth or not ? It it's not the case, then I can undertand. However if he knows the truth, Yuno can stab him !

Its hard to say... I'm going to say no, that he thinks it's just a cellphone that has some important info on it and that's why they want it destroyed. He probably has no idea of the repercussions, since he told Yukki that he would buy him a new one . I'm kinda sad that his dad turned out to be such a scoundrel... so much for all that father-son bonding time.

My favourite part in this episode is seeing the sevenths acting like a regular couple in love. It was cute to see despite all their criminal actions, they seriously love each other. I wonder what their motive is to do all of this...

[Kusa-San]

Originally Posted by julez

. I'm kinda sad that his dad turned out to be such a scoundrel... so much for all that father-son bonding time.
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If what you said it's true (because I don't know if he was really honest) then he wants his cellphone for the sake of his family.

[Flawfinder]

Originally Posted by julez

My favourite part in this episode is seeing the sevenths acting like a regular couple in love. It was cute to see despite all their criminal actions, they seriously love each other. I wonder what their motive is to do all of this...

So they won't die? Being together is sort of an impossibility when you're dead.

Nevertheless, I really like them too. And I sort of hate the anime for doing that. I can't stand loving couples being broken apart because they're on the enemy side. Ray and Charles...why?

[Malkuth]

Originally Posted by gonzo562

i finally got around to watching the 1st episode of Mirai Nikki.

When i first heard the voice of the male protagonist Yukiteru I thought hey he sounds like a girl and based on myanimelist.net he is being voiced by a girl. I don't get why they chose a girl to voice Yuki and I kinda dislike Yuki voice.

It's very common to have female VAs for male teenagers, as for Yukiteru he doesn't only sound girly, but behaves too

Originally Posted by Wilfriback

Just passing to say the second volume of the series is out and well, the uncensored parts are quite gross, some screeshots here.

Uncensoring the gangrape results, made it even more mortifying... I approve.

Originally Posted by totoum

Wow,the anime is giving me what the manga didn't:9th's tits in all their glory !

that EYE

[julez]

Originally Posted by Kusa-San

If what you said it's true (because I don't know if he was really honest) then he wants his cellphone for the sake of his family.

Yeah, but then why couldn't he just be straight with Yukiteru and ask him for it? Assuming that he has good intentions and is oblivious to it all, if he explained he wanted to destroy it to erase his debt and bring the family together again he should know that Yukiteru would've agreed to it (going with this assumption that it's nothing more than a cellphone, and he has no idea of the consequences of destroying it).
Hmm then again, he might have wanted to keep it from Yukiteru that he's made a deal with a shady individual.

Even though his prime objective is to erase his debt, I can't see it being because he wants the family to be reunited. He seems more than content with being single and able to hit on nurses freely I could be wrong though, I guess we'll see in future episodes.

Originally Posted by Flawnalyst

So they won't die? Being together is sort of an impossibility when you're dead.

Wow, why didn't I think of that, lol. That's probably it.

[miketyson]

julez: mirai nikki is full of half-plotholes like "why not just ask Yukiteru for the phone?" (it also has true plot holes, but not as many). For stuff like that, you can usually think up a good reason for it -- e.g., the dad was told that it'd be bad if Yukiteru found out he wa trying to take his phone -- but there's no explicit in-story reason for why it happens that way.

Of course, the real reason that's how it went is that the author wanted the dad's betrayal to be a shocking surprise to Yukiteru, and there's no way for that to happen if dad just asked him for it upfront.

[totoum]

Originally Posted by Malkuth

that EYE

Wasn't that in the manga though (mosaic I think?) or am I just not remembering things correctly?

[warita]

Originally Posted by julez

Yeah, but then why couldn't he just be straight with Yukiteru and ask him for it? Assuming that he has good intentions and is oblivious to it all, if he explained he wanted to destroy it to erase his debt and bring the family together again he should know that Yukiteru would've agreed to it (going with this assumption that it's nothing more than a cellphone, and he has no idea of the consequences of destroying it).

There is two reasons, why I think Yukkis dad is not so innocent, if not outright an ass.

1) He has 3 mio yen debt.... and somebody promises him to erase that debt, if he breaks sis sons mobile? And Yukkis dad doesnt stop to think, that there is something off about the offer?

2) When he was searching Yukkis hospital room for the mobile, he said something along the lines of: "If I find it, I will be able to live grand again for a while". This doesnt sound like somebody who just wants to get rid of debt to be able to return to his family would say, right?

I dont know how he got into such a huge debt, but I suspect he is irresponsible and cant restrain himself, when he wants something.

[Ray]

Yuki's dad is such a scumbag. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt since he doesn't know that breaking Yuki's phone will kill him, or well, erase him from existence. Still, he felt quite a scummy character, wanting to live 'grand' again.

Yuno looks awesome in that white dress of hers in the new OP. ;3

[Kusa-San]

Originally Posted by warita

There is two reasons, why I think Yukkis dad is not so innocent, if not outright an ass.

1) He has 3 mio yen debt.... and somebody promises him to erase that debt, if he breaks sis sons mobile? And Yukkis dad doesnt stop to think, that there is something off about the offer?

2) When he was searching Yukkis hospital room for the mobile, he said something along the lines of: "If I find it, I will be able to live grand again for a while". This doesnt sound like somebody who just wants to get rid of debt to be able to return to his family would say, right?

I dont know how he got into such a huge debt, but I suspect he is irresponsible and cant restrain himself, when he wants something.

Ah good analysis. Now, I'm sure he's a scumbag.

[Malkuth]

Originally Posted by totoum

Wasn't that in the manga though (mosaic I think?) or am I just not remembering things correctly?

page 55, but in the anime it is somewhat different better

[ars89]

Yuki's dad is quite a piece of work. Some funny moments with the father and son pair. Obviously his dad doesn't know about the diaries, but him prioritizing his debt over his son's safety is pretty low. Glad Yuno found out he was a fake. Also nice job by her and recovering the real phones. Hopefully Yuki figures out that he need Yuno and grabs her hand. Mar and Ai are hilarious together.

[Luxuria]

Kurou (Yuki's dad) perhaps was ordered not to tell any of the deal to Yuki, assuming that the deal was sealed with the Eleventh. If Kurou goes by explaining to Yukiteru why he would need to break his phone, Eleventh's plan and identity might be exposed. That's what Eleventh is preventing.

No spoilers, just assumptions.

[D-KLAC]

ok now yea now wonder which hand to go for yuki?

this week ep.16

meet yuki's dad seeing yuki getting trained by ninth & tried to horse but failed yet trying to fun with ninth but no.
give yuki thinking wishing to stars watching with parents.
so ninth put training with yuki & his dad while yuno watch
oh sevenths are looking yuki dairy give female 7 going about other woman for male 7?
during training yuki seem got it but his dad i got it even ninth siding with yuki dad in all training with yuno relax seeing yuki holding a knife.
one more training it a run give ninth reveal why yuki is weak cause yuki keep thinking he weak & also yuki's dad reveal his debt issues to cause divorce.
ninth & young cop some talk give ninth is doing this for right now & not the past cause "Nothing good comes from digging up the past.”
while yuno watch she see yuki's dad going on search & hear everything about yuki's dad is doing.
next day young cop meet big headed person to look around her area.
while yuki & his dad watching yuno being yuno til yuki going why cause of mention of debt.
then call from seventh wanting them & yuki's dad give yuno giving the "yuno eye" on yuki's dad.
so they meet sevenths all white punch yuki dad grab yuki then yuki's dad break phone but nothing happen.
cause yuno sense it was fake get phone back then boom which hand will yuki get???

murmur's extra on yuki dad give enter hospital meet nurse murmur mention his debt & murmur give wise advice saying give yuki dad ???

oh boy now what next?

[Guido]

I seriously feel terribly bad for Yukiteru, because he's sort of cornered between the wall and the sword.

Spoiler:

Yuno continues to smash up whatever naive illusions and good feelings Yukiteru has for those close to him, and, unfortunately, again has his good trust betrayed this time by his own father.

Nevertheless, it would be rushing it if I quickly call Mr. Amano a bastard given that he had all this money issues and the debt. However, let us reconsider why he and his wife broke up their marriage?
Probably, because Yuki's mom later knew better what sort of man her former husband was with anything related to money and wasting it away to very bad people.

Moreover, Mr. Amano has contracted help in higher leagues, because Yuno told Yuki he might be working for the eleventh Diary User to find and then break his own son's diary (his life) in order to have his debts erased.
Now, all of us think that Yuki is weak all along due that we aren't patient with how he's being behaving as the story progresses, but at least he stands to his morals.
Unfortunately, the opposite is said about his father being a two-faced bastard who is willing to give up his own son in order to save his neck. Heck, I can start imagine the picture if Yuki's Mom crosses paths with him, and finds out he put Yuki to some dangerous situation.

Now, as for Yuno, she irritates me with her "See? Didn't I tell you? I was right all along" attitude of hers splattering her point over and over to Yuki in close edge to Yandere mode, and she does it again by unmasking Mr. Amanos' intentions before Yuki.
Like if Yukiteru hasn't had salt already spilt on his open wounds from his previous trust experiences with the past Diary Users.

Now, there's a tiny but meaningful detail that Yukiteru care not to pay attention or brushed aside.

Spoiler:

How come Yuno knew right away that Mr. Amano was working for the Eleventh?

Sure, including Yuno and Yuki, there are still six diary users remaining and using common sense to do order of elimination, then eleventh is left as the most reasonable candidate to use Mr. Amano against Yuki. Nevertheless, the problem I see is that Yuno pretty much sounded that she already knew Eleventh was behind Yuki's dad from the start while eavesdropping the phone conversation.

[Malkuth]

Originally Posted by Guido

Now, there's a tiny but meaningful detail that Yukiteru care not to pay attention or brushed aside.

Spoiler:

How come Yuno knew right away that Mr. Amano was working for the Eleventh?

Sure, including Yuno and Yuki, there are still six diary users remaining and using common sense to do order of elimination, then eleventh is left as the most reasonable candidate to use Mr. Amano against Yuki. Nevertheless, the problem I see is that Yuno pretty much sounded that she already knew Eleventh was behind Yuki's dad from the start while eavesdropping the phone conversation.

^ What you are alluding to I believe is a recurring plot hole of the manga