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Old 2016-07-03, 04:01   Link #21
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Late to the party. Seems interesting. Thanks zzhk for another great translation.
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Old 2016-07-03, 06:46   Link #22
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after gods, dragon with some myth then historical person eh :v
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Old 2016-07-06, 23:59   Link #23
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This sounds interesting. I'll watch this out.
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Old 2016-07-14, 21:08   Link #24
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So far, I'm really liking this volume, even more so than the first volume of Meiyaku no Leviathan.

The MC is more to my taste, compared to Hal and Godou, and Shiori is just adorable.

Also:

Spoiler for Quote:


Thank you, Zzhk! You always translate good stuff lol
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Old 2016-07-15, 02:20   Link #25
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Hasegawa is a fairly common family name, so who knows?

Yes, Masatsugu is definitely something special.

I wonder how many light novel series can boast of having a male character on every cover illustration so far?
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Old 2016-07-15, 05:15   Link #26
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I wonder how many light novel series can boast of having a male character on every cover illustration so far?
Shinmai Maou(9), Hagure Yuusha(11) and Masou Gakuen Hxh(8) are the only ones I can think of, funnily enough all three of them are almost hentai

Saijaku had it too until the 6th volume.
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Old 2016-07-16, 05:08   Link #27
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I wonder if Cleopatra will also make an appearance in this story, given her strong historical ties to Ceasar.
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Old 2016-07-16, 05:28   Link #28
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So... the things that are different in their world, as I understand it (zzhk's gonna correct me on one or all of these, I'm sure):

1) Obviously and most importantly, Sacred Beasts began to appear around the world, in the 19th century. That's well before World War III, and other important global events.

2) The usage of aircraft around the world. Sure, they might be still used for transport (otherwise, Shiori might have taken a boat ride to and from Rome during her "captivity"), but as for military purposes like attack craft... they're completely outclassed by Legions and by various flying retainer beasts. There's also the added danger in the skies when the other side can control weather patterns through meteorological decrees.

3) Speaking of Legions, forget about fielding thousands of soldiers in the battlefield and the accompanying logistics nightmare, sending one Chevalier (or Returnee) can change the course of a battle easily. Not to mention that you only need to replenish artificial ectoplasmic fluid reserves (man-made spooky juice?) and the material needs of only one person.

4) Legions only take considerable damage by fighting other Legions or mystical opponents of the same caliber, with modern arms doing nil to scratch damage on them. Doesn't matter if tanks pelt them with shells, helicopters and fighter jets bomb them with missiles or battleships hit them with cannons, only another Legion can negate a Legion's innate barriers (AT fields?).

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Old 2016-07-16, 05:49   Link #29
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So... How many Returnees have been presented or mentioned so far?
I'm still reading Vol01 but I'd like to have a list for references' sake
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Old 2016-07-16, 09:17   Link #30
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So... How many Returnees have been presented or mentioned so far?
I'm still reading Vol01 but I'd like to have a list for references' sake
At the moment, the mentioned ones are:
East Roman Empire
- Julius Caesar

Imperial Japan
- Hijikata Toshizo (fake)/Tachibana Masatsugu

British Empire
- Black Prince Edward
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Old 2016-07-16, 09:34   Link #31
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Why fake?

Is there any place where one could check the RAWs or a Wikia of sorts where one could check more about the Returnees?


EDIT: Through a little Google search, I've found these:
Spoiler:

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Old 2016-07-16, 10:10   Link #32
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Grasslands? Small horses? An army of cavalry crossing thousands of miles? Is he Subutai reborn?!?

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Old 2016-07-16, 11:32   Link #33
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Why fake?

Is there any place where one could check the RAWs or a Wikia of sorts where one could check more about the Returnees?


EDIT: Through a little Google search, I've found these:
Spoiler:
I said "fake", because Masatsugu only used Izumi-no-Kami Kanesada but it wasn't really his (nor his past self's) to begin with.

He did manage to bend the sword to his will, and Akigase Rikka thinks he's the real deal. Masatsugu does try to correct her but... oh well.


Completely spoilery stuff you have there, but oh well.

Spoiler for top pic:


Spoiler for middle pic:


Spoiler for bottom pic:

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Grasslands? Small horses? An army of cavalry crossing thousands of miles? Is he Subutai reborn?!?
Well, Masatsugu also has memories of always fighting without a proper supply line and/or living off the land. Not sure if that applies to Subutai, but he's definitely somewhere from Mongolia or nearby, if his memories include "horseback + archery".

Long shot bet: Vlad Tepes

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Old 2016-07-16, 12:43   Link #34
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That's why I put the images in spoiler tags

It's quite rare of me to actually read LNs (since I usually spend most of my free time writing my own original story), but somehow the Returnees plot element, BUNBUN's art-style and the sexy female main trio have sold me for now


EDIT: Finally! After a whole day of catching up, I'm finally up-to-date, with only the last part of the last chapter of Vol01, and it's Epilogue, left to read... When zzhk gets to translate them

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Old 2016-07-16, 18:42   Link #35
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Well, Masatsugu also has memories of always fighting without a proper supply line and/or living off the land. Not sure if that applies to Subutai, but he's definitely somewhere from Mongolia or nearby, if his memories include "horseback + archery".

I doubt he is Subutai. According to Masatsugu, his past lord is either incapable or jealous of him.
That description does not fit the profile of Genghis Khan, who is certainly capable and has good relationship with Subutai (in fact, the wiki mentions that it is quite rare for a commoner like Subutai to get such a high position at that time).

Also, I think it is unlikely that the answer to Masatsugu's identity will be this straightforward, considering all the misleading hints the author gave us about King of the End in Campione.
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Old 2016-07-16, 20:00   Link #36
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Wild guess: he's Belisarius.
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Old 2016-07-16, 20:07   Link #37
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Maybe zzhk has read all 5 volumes available so far and has got some additional intel that may correctly indicate his true identity?
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Old 2016-07-16, 20:29   Link #38
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This LN is certainly pretty novel, comparing kissing woman's neck with slitting off the neck of one's beloved horse and drinking its blood. I don't know whether to feel terrified or moved.
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Old 2016-07-16, 20:32   Link #39
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I actually thought he was gonna bite her neck, especially after having read beforehand MeganeShounen's wild guess bet on Vlad Tepes.
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Old 2016-07-16, 21:04   Link #40
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I'll stand by zzhk's comment of comparing this novel to "Ravages of Time"... no, wait, I mean Romance of the Three Kingdoms.

Shiori is Liu Bei, who rises up from being a nobody/"caged" Imperial Princess and gathers allies around her.
Masatsugu is Guan Yu, a warrior whose fate ends up being entwined around Shiori and pledges his blade to her.
(I guess Hatsune has Zhang Fei's spot? )

And personally, I'd prefer if zzhk doesn't spoil Masatsugu's real identity, even if he knew.
It makes discussion more lively with all the mass guesspeculating.


For now, let's just imagine Masatsugu as some sort of blood-sucking Hijikata Toshizo.
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