2008-09-09, 12:41 | Link #8881 | |
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From what I can currently see, the TSAB is screwed. Being tech-based, everyone has access to firepower that could match an A-rank mage in destructiveness, if not more. Considering how everyone in every season of Nanoha complains about the lack of capable mages, Bureau forces could be outnumbered 100 to 1 by this empire. And all one hundred of them would be able to command A-rank firepower unlike the 1 mage who would typically be below A-rank. Next, you've portrayed this empire as desiring to be the supreme power in the galaxy, that means they remember the lessons of war that the TSAB has deliberately forgotten. Which means they will have superior tactics and strategy. Third, is the Bureau is the only significant adversary this empire currently has? If they are, then this empire can concentrate its forces on destroying the Bureau fleet. That would reduce the Bureau's force-project significantly. Finally, I look forward to seeing how you care to explain the Bureau's superiority in atmospheric combat. Based on our own, I'd say any civilization with advanced space combat technology should have developed equally advanced air combat technology as well. If you are thinking that a flying mage can be untrackable by anti-air systems, I'm sure our more mil-minded members can shake that notion from you. In fact, I do believe we discussed the possibility of an aerial mage evading a heat-seeking missle a few months ago, the outcome didn't look good for the mage. I look forward to seeing how you'll deal with these issues. |
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2008-09-09, 13:04 | Link #8882 | |
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First: The TSAB's atmospheric superiority comes from the fact the enemies in my story use plasma based weaponry, so magic shields and barrier jackets work well in defense. As for missile attacks, in most cases in our world you can't really shake a heat-seeker anyway and usually have to have allies intercept or use decoys. My theory is that if a mage concentrates some magical energy and super heats or overloads it whatever you prefer it over their own body-temp and dumps it in the missiles path then the missile may or may not change target. Second: As i wrote somewhere in the start of the first chapter "Humans with magical power have almost tripled in number and power" indicating that TSAB forces are also getting a considerable boost to thier forces. To tell the truth some of the other stuff i'm undecided on, i've thought of many possible outcomes and im weighing the pros and cons of them to see which way ill go but they will be addressed eventually you'll just have to wait and see. Hope that answers some questions for you. |
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2008-09-09, 13:20 | Link #8883 |
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Writing update~
I don't know if I forgot to mention it, so I is mentioning again. SC2 is up on FF.net up to the third chapter. The ff.net version includes revisions done between when I posted each chapter here and when I posted them on ff.net (so they're a fair bit cleaner, IMO) Artist!Fate is also similarly edited and posted on ff.net (tho not as edited as SC2) Linkage: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4504284/...agical_What_If and http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4502974/...ION_POINT_Fate [bows... and then runs] Edit: @Striker-117 Mikazuki strikes me as a cross between Syn (blue-red heterochromatic smart ass?) and Fate (whose white cape I believe may partially be a sign of her rank rather than being a signature Fate-symbol). She has her own history though, so I reserve judgment beyond that. Spoiler for More on that:
Ooh, and that reminds me, SC2 has it's own storyline separate from SC1 (I'm seriously beginning to doubt that it even qualifies as a sequel) that involves "a neighboring galaxy". I don't believe it's hostile though, so it may not be the same as Strikers-117's world. Ah.. time will tell. Last edited by Knight of L-sama; 2008-09-09 at 13:48. |
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I'll be awaiting future developments from you. You're thinking of early-generation heat-seekers. Newer models can track heat pattern signatures, not simply go after the hottest signals. The military already has heat sensors that can identify people, what would a more advanced civilisation have? |
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Even still, the missiles can't phase through matter... so if the target there "tracking " is inside a building the missile would just hit the building...
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2008-09-09, 14:39 | Link #8889 |
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That still wouldn't matter as the AT Field isn't a reflexive defense. The user needs to consciously manifest the field into existence in a similar manner to how mages produce a barrier. Plus a normal mage would not be able to generate an AT Field without, in a sense, killing themselves.
Delayed detonation. There are numerous missiles and bombs that are designed to penetrate structures and then detonate once they are inside. Not to mention the yield of the explosive could end up taking out the wall and sending small and large pieces of debris into the targets or destroy the entire building, killing the targets anyway. |
2008-09-09, 15:05 | Link #8890 |
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@Thread: Maybe you guys should take that to the "Magic and Technology" thread since it seems to be more a discussion about that than application in fanfics. (course I could be wrong, and fi so, please continue here )
[edit] yeah, needs to go to the other thread lol
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However, if the Bureau lacks space superiority, it cannot deploy its ships in the atmosphere to support aerial mages. The empire's superior spaceships can target and attack them from orbit although they can't localize individual mages from that distance. And don't tell me "maybe they lack the range". If a space combat system can't traverse less than 100km of atmosphere to damage a ship, this empire doesn't have much space superiority. Quote:
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Striker117 is implying that the empire is at a virtual stalemate with the Bureau. I don't see this being a possibility if Bureau mages can mow down the empire's troops with impuity. Therefore the empire has to be at least as good at killing Bureau mages as the Bureau is at stopping them. Quote:
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Granted, those don't sound like the standard loadout for an AA mission. But if the mage wants to go to ground instead, keep her supressed until ground attack assets can be called in. Last edited by Jimmy C; 2008-09-09 at 15:24. |
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2008-09-09, 16:41 | Link #8892 | |
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The guy then frightengly blabbers something that sounds like "the gun.... didn't work... this kid... is a mage?" The translation is questionable, I'm not sure on the word he uses to describe what happened with his gun, but he does sound awefully scared that he's facing a mage, even though he has a gun. |
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2008-09-09, 18:46 | Link #8894 | |
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So the spells translated name is old norse for "mistletoe"?
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2008-09-09, 19:49 | Link #8895 |
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Crossroads To the place among heavens …Or the devil´s home. Spoiler for part 3:
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If you have noticed a better grammar thank TSS. I fail at it Votes end in more or less 19.30 hrs remember Green and Big
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