new cpu

[Saleh]

Originally Posted by demon2004

ok i ran prime 95 for a bit and hear are my temps

98.9% Load

Temperture
cpu 1 66 cpu 2 58 cpu 3 60 cpu 4 61

now the tj max that core temp says is 100C for my cpu and my cpu idels at around 42 to 45 now i live in orange county city of santa ana so it hot even at night most of the time right now my rom temp is 73c, now since my max is 100c i should be good right i don't think the fan is stock it looks pretty big it's a gateway computer

Room temperature == 73 C

[SaintessHeart]

Use fullstops, capital letters,do grammar checks, and sentence structures. Don't make me call you idiot, I have been using that term in emails to Bethesda and my ISP the past few days.

Rom is probably referring to ROM temperature, probably the HDD. Get a fan, face your CPU out of the window, open the casing then blow the hot air out. Hit 75 degrees and you might risk damaging your hardware.

If it is really room temperature, it is probably Fahrenheit. 73 degrees is the only heat you get in hot-rooms (for firefighting training), and it requires a really enclosed place to retain that heat.

[demon2004]

Sorry i messed up the room tmep in my house is 70F i was half asleep when i wrote this post, So so my temps so be okay, now i haven't tried gameing on it but i guss the temps would be the same thats if the cpu hits 98.9 load

[gummybear]

are you using a stock cpu cooler? If you are, your cpu will always at high temperture. My core i7 920 is only 30c at idle and 70c at max load cause I got this:
http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/prod...roduct_id=2869

[demon2004]

no it dosen't look stock but i have a nother prob, it looks like i won't be able to put a really good video card i just opend up my computer to look and right now it has a hd 3450 and right next to it is the tv turner, the turner use one of those small pci express slot or what ever you call it, i don't want to remove the turner because thats one of the reason why i got the card, it looks like i need a single slot video card that dosen't have a big fan any ideas thanks

[chikorita157]

The graphics card uses a 16x PCI Express which is bigger than the TV tuner card which most likely use PCI or PCI Ex x1. You just need to remove the current graphics card you are using.

Most will not use a additional slot for a fan except the high end ones.

[demon2004]

the tv turner dose use the PCI Ex x1 but the turner is right next to the pci express card so it's a really tight fit so what video card should i use thats not wide and will let me play new games

[sa547]

The only way to get that card accommodated is to get a new TV tuner dongle -- the ones that you can plug to the USB port.

[demon2004]

i don't want to spend the money on a new now so give a list of some single slot cards that don't have big fans

[chikorita157]

This card should fit since the fan is not as big as others.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814133243

Less powerful ones have small or no fans but will perform poorly in most games and not worth the money since you can get a powerful one for a little more

[demon2004]

what about the 4670 and 4770 i have heard good things about the 4670

[chikorita157]

The problem with midrange cards is that they are obsolete after one year since newer games won't perform as well as if you were to get a higher end card and they cost nearly the same as you were to get a Geforce 98xx series... which will do a bit better with newer and future games.

[demon2004]

so whats a good cheap power to run a 9800 untill the new cards come out

[chikorita157]

I would avoid cheap power supplies and get one for a reputable company since they can set up a road of failure because cheaper PSU uses cheap components which can potentially cause a PSU failure.

A good PSU should cost no more than $69 dollars. Some suggestions:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817182062
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817171038

[reflection]

Originally Posted by chikorita157

The problem with midrange cards is that they are obsolete after one year since newer games won't perform as well as if you were to get a higher end card and they cost nearly the same as you were to get a Geforce 98xx series... which will do a bit better with newer and future games.

An HD4770 is better than a 9800GT by equal to or greater than 15% on virtually all apps and games. It performs very closely to a HD4850, so in the range of the 9800GTX/GTS250. You probably won't find one new right now without some incredible luck, because they sold out like hotcakes when it came out. But it's dual slot, which wouldn't have worked for the OP anyways I guess. OP should take the 9800GT over the HD4670 like you suggested though.

OP should take a look at this P/S, looks like great deal after rebate:
OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ600MXSP

Modular, 80plus, plenty of power and 2x25A 12V rails, trusted brand.

[demon2004]

i going to frys can you tell a good cpu fan i want to put a better one on, something thats not to loud and and well keep my cpu cool, my cpu temps right now are 52 44 47 47 at idle it's about 77.9F in my house and 81.4 outside

[Kurz]

Originally Posted by chikorita157

I would avoid cheap power supplies and get one for a reputable company since they can set up a road of failure because cheaper PSU uses cheap components which can potentially cause a PSU failure.

A good PSU should cost no more than $69 dollars. Some suggestions:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817182062
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817171038

Really you linked to Rosewill? (One of Worst Powersupply brands i've seen.)
The powersupply should be respectable since its delivering the power to the components. The power it delivers should be clean and free from ripples.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005

Slightly more expensive, but a great product.

[chikorita157]

Originally Posted by Kurz

Really you linked to Rosewill? (One of Worst Powersupply brands i've seen.)
The powersupply should be respectable since its delivering the power to the components. The power it delivers should be clean and free from ripples.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005

Slightly more expensive, but a great product.

Thanks for pointing that out. Although I know alot on the technical side, not so much for hardware since I never built my own computer in my life besides upgrading the video card, ram and drives. This is why I don't really know much about psus and motherboards, but I'm still learning.

[Kurz]

No problem it just Erks me every time I see those POS's