2010-09-08, 15:37 | Link #2405 | |
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Yet in the first episode (ca. 2:12 in), Hayate's watch shows "6/3 SAT": Saturday, June 3. June 3 fell on Saturday in 2000 and 2006. In 2004, it fell on Thursday and in 2009, on Wednesday.
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2010-09-08, 17:07 | Link #2406 |
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So... 2006, if I had to guess. Although it's entirely possible it isn't too important.
Also, could familiars use devices? I'd assume so, because Devices can use Devices (Rein and the Book of the Azure Sky), but it's something I'm curious about. More questions. 1. We currently have six types of devices. We have Intelligent Devices (Raising Heart, Bardiche), Storage Devices (S2U, Durandal, Tome of the Night Sky), Armed Devices (Levantine, Graf Eisen, Klaer Wind), Unison Devices (Agito, Reinforce I and II), Boost Devices (Kerykion and Asclepius), and finally Devices (Schwertz-Kreuz). What are the benefits of each and the drawbacks, as well as the differences between each of them? 2. In Episode 06 of the anime, there is a larger Belka circle, as opposed to a triangle. Any full-blown diagrams of it, like the Belka triangle and Mid circle? Explanations? Last edited by Mirron; 2010-09-09 at 11:50. |
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- Storage Devices have least AI, are cheap to produce, so everyone and their mother are using them, except the named characters. They presumably compensate with faster spell processing, kinda like shell console is faster than a graphic GUI. - Boost Devices are basically glorified Storage Devices, for all we know. Their only difference seems to be that they are optimized for buffing magic. Dunno why they are an extra category. - Armed Devices are Devices that double as weapons. They are somewhere between Storage and Intelligent ones in terms of AI, though closer to Storage. Main advantage: they are helluva tough and optimized for combat. Originally, the cartridge system was only available for them. - Intelligent Devices have considerable AI, but are all hand-made. Self-aware and capable of autonomous operation, as Raising Heart and Mach Caliber showed. - Unison Devices are the pinnacle of Device AI evolution, possess their own Linker Cores and free will. They only existed on Ancient Belka and the only UD created in modern age is Rein II. Also, there are three categories that are not Devices but play a similar role: - Inherent Equipment are Combat Cyborgs' gadgets that they use similar to Devices. They range from weapons like Due's Piercing Nail, through parts of the girls' own bodies, like Sein's Periscope Eye, to almost Device-like things like Nove's Gun Knuckle and Jet Edge. - EC Dividers look like Armed Devices with built-in anti-magic capacity, but their true nature is to be revealed in Force. Whatever they are, they are not ordinary devices. - AEC Armament also look like Armed Devices but they can't be used for casting most magic, only to blow shit the hell up. Quote:
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2010-09-09, 19:10 | Link #2410 | |
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Which means that all of this either takes place over multiple years (2000-2004 would be possible, but really long) or in no possible year at all. Where is the day of the week for Christmas confirmed? I don't remember that.
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2010-09-09, 20:40 | Link #2411 | |
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2010-09-09, 21:10 | Link #2412 | ||
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Also IIRC there are also Utility Devices, like Subaru's first set of rollerblades. I think firefighting equipment from 2nd ep. of Stikers and which Subaru/Teana used in manga also in that category.
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2010-09-09, 22:18 | Link #2413 | |
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Then feel free to update it if you have more correct information. :P Wiki's will always be fail unless people add to, or correct them.
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2010-09-09, 22:44 | Link #2415 | |
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Also, Fate's magic registered the same as that of the 'Incident' in color and maybe even scans. BAD FATE! |
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2010-09-09, 23:36 | Link #2416 |
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Episode 6 of A's. It's only seen with the Book of Darkness, so I'm guessing it's a unique circle for it, but it would be nice to see a full picture of it, for one, and see if it has any unique purpose beyond that.
When I looked at the character cards for Strikers, it just had Shwertz-Kreuz listed as (Rod), no / or anything, which is how all the other devices are listed. That's why I'm guessing it's in it's own category, because it doesn't follow the pattern every other characters Devices do, it just has the shape of the device. I'll see if I can find it, but no clue where I saw it last. And I have read the wiki. I'm mainly asking for more info, given how little there is sadly. |
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For the movie 1st, they specifically have Precia say that "Fate is better at some magic that Alicia was." So in that AU, we know Alicia had magic; it's just that Fate was better in some areas. I think one of the movie materials had her listed as E rank, too, which kinda makes sense for a 5-6 year old. It's entirely possible she could go much higher with training. Quote:
My own personal theory is that the book functions as the repository of her spells, and the staff just helps focus her mana to use them. It's why she chants her spells. Most ID's allow you to skip the chanting as they help directly with casting, such as Nanoha needing a chant for Divine Shooter in A's ep 1 when not using RH, or Reinforce using a chant for Starlight Breaker. So Hayate device really does seem to work a lot like a spellbook, allowing her to store a number of spells in the form of a chant. |
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2010-09-10, 13:24 | Link #2418 |
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I was primarily asking what it's purpose was, and how it was different from other Devices. All I remember about it is that it was lacking all the extras other Devices had, due to the nature of Hayate's spells. In order to actually cast them, it couldn't have any of the neat features an ordinary device would have, so it made me curious wha a Device at it's core did. Guess it's hard to say what on average it is though, simply because Hayate is an out of the ordinary case.
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