2008-08-17, 04:37 | Link #1166 |
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One word: Obamania. Sheryl appears to have qualities that people like, like confidence, maturity, a "strong-will". Her popularity has outstripped her actual role, and her character in the series. What she does doesn't matter. How she acts, the way she says things, that's all that matters. What she actually says, or what she actually does, that doesn't matter at all to her cult-following. They've projected an aura of things they supposedly want in a female character, and sooner or later, the reality that Sheryl will not live up to their expectations will hit them like a bus. And then they'll be pissed and probably blame it on Ranka for stealing the show even though it was always her show to begin with.
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2008-08-17, 04:50 | Link #1167 | |
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Please stop that overextensive generalization. People have different reasons of liking a character. You're stooping to the level of the rabid Sheryl fans you're describing yourself. --- Let's just avoid attacks on people with regards to who they prefer. These do not really contribute to the discussion. Last edited by solothurn; 2008-08-17 at 04:57. Reason: Soften the blow. |
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2008-08-17, 05:15 | Link #1169 | ||
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Each Macross series is always about the love triangle. Sure, there's a particular one in that bit of the triangle, but I believe in this case it's more Alto than Ranka. Though your opinion does hold a candle as to how Ranka got a lot of focus in her story during the start & the middle of the series, but I believe it was more due to the fact that Sheryl comes into the story already having a 'developed' side, as compared to Ranka who was starting out from nothing. Quote:
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2008-08-17, 06:06 | Link #1170 | |||
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I will say this whole "Fallen from Grace" thing they've got going for her right now is really blown out of proportion if not for the fact that she's probably going to be dead soon, and is likely thinking no one will even go to her funeral. Because she doesn't know anyone. Really needs 3 Ghosts of Christmas to come by and pwn her ass if you ask me. Quote:
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2008-08-17, 07:42 | Link #1171 | |
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I agree with you on this. They could have done so much on Sheryl but they chose not to do so. For what reason? We'll never know, but I'm guessing that they chose to focus on the childlike Ranka more since Japan loves loli's and she had the most room and potential for development, as compared to the 'already matured' (mostly) Sheryl. Easy on the words, though. What you say may be a source of misunderstanding on other people's part. |
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2008-08-17, 08:07 | Link #1172 |
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I like Ranka because I understand why she is doing what she doing. She is mentally young and naive and really has no idea what she is doing due to inexperience in life. She is lucky enough to be where she is by circumstances as the case may be. Hence she is the free spirit that is being drawn along with the events happening around her. Minmei was very much like this as well. She is driven for her want to please everyone but also at different time different individuals. The Fallen Heroine I like Sheryl because she is the superstar idol that is being disassembled from her very good life and career and being brought down into the mud and dirt through unfortunate circumstances. But she will also then show that she can rise above adversary and once again make something of herself. She is addicted to success and being accepted which is what drives her. This is the want for fame that Minmei also showed. In fact in a way Sheryl and Ranka both show parts about their character that are drawn loosely from Minmei. The Shmuck I dislike Alto because he should be the male lead protagonist with the troubled past that proves himself the hero despite the disgruntled nature of this father over his career choice. Instead he barely draws on his knowledge or skill set of this acting background having seen him give advice of any sort only twice, he shows zero patience for someone who should be versed in keeping his cool and while he demonstrates exceptional skill as a pilot he should be constantly reprimanded for not being a team player as this sort of behavior just gets people killed in the end. The only part of his acting background he shows on a constant basis is his angst and over dramatic emotional outbursts over various things. I find that Alto is Hikaru in attitude and rashness as a pilot and he's also as unobservant about people as Hikaru was. The one difference that should set Alto apart from Hikaru is his impressive and talented background as an accomplished actor. Hikaru was just a crop duster that did barn house tricks with his airplane. One would think there would be a noticeable difference, Oh and for kicks, Ozma is Roy Focker and Cathy is Misa Hayase and Claudia Grant mixed together. Michael is Maximillian and I think Klan is supposed to be Millia. |
2008-08-17, 09:31 | Link #1173 | |
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@ solothurn
You're trying to debate with someone who hasn't even seen all of Macross and before he even watched an episode of it was adamant that Lacus Clyne was not inspired by Minmei. He also tries to defend horrible plot holes like Kira ending up on PLANT after the Athrun fight in shows he actually likes. He's like the only SEED fan I've seen try to defend that, hilarious. Quote:
And as for your episode 5 started her popularity, that's entirely not true, it just shot it into the stratosphere. As for not her popularity not lasting, you can think that if you want but one things for sure Sheryl will be the character remembered the most from Frontier and going by dvd and music sales Frontier's one of the most popular series in Japan from this decade. Sheryl has just as much chance as C.C and Haruhi in staying popular for a long amount of time... |
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2008-08-17, 10:31 | Link #1174 |
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@solothurn.
Nice trying to reason with Wesley84, but most of us have him on ignore for a reason. He's a troll. It's best to not quote him. But to answer the question, episode 5 did not seal Sheryl's popularity at all. That's not what she's known for. If you want to play that game, I could say nyan nyan and kira ☆ are a big reason Ranka is popular. I don't think it's totally true, but both helped her a lot. |
2008-08-17, 13:59 | Link #1175 |
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@solothurn.
How Wesley 84 can say that it's Ranka's show is beyond belief, so I can see why you want to respond to it. But then again, he's probably so fixated on this notion that nothing we say will kick in. It happens too often when he didn't really read a post and reply to it indicating that he didn't read it at all. It's selective reading, hearing, and seeing. He'll see the show how he wants it. Responding to it is a futile effort, but you did have many good points. Thanks! |
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2008-08-17, 19:44 | Link #1180 | |
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"i'm Sheryl" was a facade to begin with, never a sign of her arrogance as many believed. So it doesnt aptly define her. Neither does "Alto" cos she doesnt chase alto when she's down, anxious, sad or vulnerable quite the contrary, she spends all of her good times with alto, she seeks him out to enjoy his company, nothing more or less, so I dont see how "Alto" defines her either. |
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