2012-02-29, 17:33 | Link #1841 | |
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And I dunno personally I don't run Atmog on either my tough dps normally(Irelia, and Skarner) I prefer Omen/FoN for Irelia normally and Wit's End/Frozen Heart for Skarner(CDR is awesome on him and he so dam mana hungry generally without blue ), though I've been trying tough dps/AD Nidalee and she does run it with some effectiveness, mostly due her cougar's passive armor/MR and Q AD ratio though.
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2012-02-29, 18:38 | Link #1842 |
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If I see a jungle Fiora again for this week I'll just dodge queue. Why anyone would even think of playing someone with zero CC as jungler is beyond me. Already so tired of my team having ~80cs around the 20min mark. Lately I have getting a ton of those retards on my side which ruins most of my games.
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2012-02-29, 23:34 | Link #1843 | |
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But I mean obviously if you have Vlad Mid, and Morde or Rumble top, then she isn't really an ideal choice... but I don't see a reason a jungler must have CC, I mean personally I'd rather a jungler who has good dragon control w/o CC and can get it early than someone who can't solo dragon if at all but has CC like Rammus or Amumu. Also Fiora doesn't really need blue which means she give to her mid on 2nd or 3rd kill and not really suffer to much jungling speed for it. Also bad players do seem rampart lately...
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2012-03-01, 00:02 | Link #1844 | |
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1. They could gank. 2. They are bad in lane. It's not a rule that jungler must have CC.
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2012-03-01, 01:38 | Link #1845 | |
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Shyvana, WW and GP all have MS boosts, just like Fiora; she's got a good MS boost and a double gap closer. Tag someone with red and you got good chances of ganking them. Yi doesn't have any CC but I seriously suck at laning with him, can't stay alive if I go for the kill and get harassed too much for my comfort.
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2012-03-01, 01:52 | Link #1846 |
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Fiora is decent ganker because of gap closer + insane single target damage. At least, she's a better ganker than Shyvana... that omnislash is pretty darn lethal when you're ganking a solo lane.
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2012-03-01, 07:35 | Link #1847 | |
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GP has a slow and global presence with his ult. Being able to participate in whatever fight no matter where should never be underestimated. WW has a supress. The ability to delete someone from the fight completely is important not only for ganks but for teamfights too. Shyvana's ganking potential is generally considered to be low but she has a knockback and an escape tool. You jungle with her because of her insane clearing speed and great counter-jungling potential, not because of her ganks. There is indeed no rule about having CC on your jungler but it is somewhat pointless if you try to gank someone ... and they just run back to their tower. |
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2012-03-01, 08:47 | Link #1848 | |
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And you don't gank a lane alone. You need that lane's teammate, too. A lane without trouble doesn't need ganking. Beside, I've yet to see anyone without red and goes ganking.
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2012-03-01, 09:20 | Link #1849 |
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@Eisdrache: Why does Fiora not fall into the same category of junglers as Shyvana? Her jungle clear is so stable I saw people starting with dorans doing quite good and her counterjungling is ridiculous - when she pops her E few things can stand to her 1v1 power.
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2012-03-01, 19:21 | Link #1851 |
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I think Fiora needs a little nerf for her dmg , she deals heavy dmg. She's insane with her ulti & Burst of speed , oh god , give her infinite edge , 3+ critic dmg in a row , she 3 shots a carry. Lifesteal with her works like a charm.
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2012-03-01, 20:15 | Link #1852 | |
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But yes, it's mostly the damage that is a bit too much right now. That and her walk animation - whoever thought it would look cool to have a fencing stance while running was, in my opinion, utterly wrong, she seems way too stiff. |
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2012-03-02, 02:25 | Link #1856 |
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I agree with DragoonKain3, Fiora's burst of speed lasts a whooping 3 seconds, Yi's highlander duration is 12s + slow immunity. Yes, it's his ultimate but it refreshes just as easily...plus, she is still easily countered by mages who know how2build.
Zilean with RoA, Rylai's, DFG, frozen heart, sorc boots and abyssal scepter can play around with her (well, you can take off a couple of these items and it's still the same). I wonder, what happens when Fiora uses blade waltz and Yi casts Alpha strike at the same time? |
2012-03-03, 17:27 | Link #1857 | |
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The fact that you're the only one who even thought about ganking the lane without your team mate still stands. |
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2012-03-04, 23:04 | Link #1858 | |
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2012-03-06, 11:42 | Link #1859 |
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Wow, CLG and Dignitas ripping their group apart in IEM Hannover. Especially Dignitas, whose only loss of the day was them just playing stupid and getting 2 barons stolen from under them even when they're up 20k gold at one point.
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2012-03-07, 04:40 | Link #1860 |
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Curse dominated the first game...Kog'Maw+Morgana=GG. At least TSM really tried hard, got to steal baron and lay down some extreme ward harassment, but with Cop never going down, it was bound to be over soon. TSM: "We weren't really sure if we should kill the tanks or go for Kog'Maw". Wtf...
M5 vs EHOME: Jungle ownage from the first few minutes, roamer Janna ftw! EHOME focusing GP didn't help much either. Gotta hand it to M5, they had insane teamwork, swapping lanes and serving early cheese...really gg, albeit one-sided. Last edited by Kafriel; 2012-03-07 at 05:55. |
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