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Old 2020-01-08, 11:21   Link #21
Kanon
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Izumi Kitta isn't a live action actress, so not sure what she's doing in this discussion. Not familiar with the other one. One counter-example I can recall is Tao Tsuchiya, I believe her performance in Erased was praised.
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Old 2020-01-09, 20:39   Link #22
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Took a second viewing, but I noticed early on in the dragonfly sequence they had the voice actresses doing their impressions of the necessary sound effects. Nice addition, with the sound effects gradually shifting to normal effects as they become more and more immersed in the fantasy.

On a different note, sorry I didn't comment before, but I'm curious just what Beta means by "the usual pattern". What pattern? A woman playing a girl?
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Old 2020-01-09, 23:31   Link #23
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Human-generated sound effects are a Yuasa trademark. One of my favorite elements of his more surrealistic work.
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Old 2020-01-11, 00:51   Link #24
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A lot of fun. Love those complex world drawings. Will they be able to keep up the complexity of the visuals? I'll be here to find out, anyway. Good stuff. Good characters. Neat story so far. I'll get used to the voices. I often like actors doing anime voices. Gives a natural or real feeling, as opposed to a skillful feeling. Both can be good. I liked ending on the washing machine, since I wondered why they hadn't gone to get the clothes.
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Old 2020-01-12, 16:07   Link #25
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The second episode was just as awesome as the first one. You can easily tell the staff is putting a lot of love into this. I'm surprised the girls are going to animate their works the old school way, but that makes it all the more interesting.
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Old 2020-01-12, 16:16   Link #26
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I like the fact that they are going old school with this so far and I really like the fantasy sequences they have.
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Old 2020-01-13, 02:05   Link #27
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I love that the faculty room is a swimming pool, for no reason whatsoever.
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Old 2020-01-13, 06:22   Link #28
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It was interesting seeing the process of cel animation in an anime. We see this a lot in shounen series where the rules of the game are explained, but here you can clearly see the imagination and love to the medium, so despite not being interested in the process of animation per se, watching this episode was a lot of fun!

There’s a lot of thought put into the details of the dynamic of the girls also. It’s the little things like Kanamori expecting Midori to fall. You know they’re close friends when you take a video instead of helping them.
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Old 2020-01-14, 05:46   Link #29
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I've only watched episode 1 so far but goddamn I haven't had this much fun watching a slice of life (ish) CGDCT series in a long time. At first I had hesitation that Yuasa's style might not translate well here but I'll be damned if it doesn't look like he's been doing this for years. This is probably proof of concept that that you can achieve the same result by even daring to be more different and creative than the usual fare.
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Old 2020-01-15, 11:37   Link #30
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Fantastic first two episodes. Gotta love how quirky the characters are (though tall girl is clearly the run away favourite)

I suppose comparisons with Shirobako are gonna be hard to avoid. This probably won't top Shirobako for me personally: Shirobako's depictions of stressful work life and environment and the neuroticism that comes with it spoke to me on such a personal level and it looks like Eizouken will be avoiding that area completely but I certainly think Eizouken has a chance.
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Old 2020-01-16, 11:42   Link #31
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I just finished rewatching all of Shirobako. I was inspired to do so from watching Eizouken and hadn't seen Shirobako in some time. I probably share Haak's feelings on the two shows. Such an important part of Shirobako for me is the emphasis on team work and the relationships within the staff. I quite enjoyed the material on how anime is made, but it was the characters, actors, and score that made Shirobako so special. I also liked how P.A. Works gave us such a range of additional material like the Andes Chucky ED and the works EXODUS and Third Aerial Girls' Squadron themselves.

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Old 2020-01-19, 17:46   Link #32
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Awesome pieces of animation this week again.

Kanamori has tough job, keeping those two hyper girls in line. I love how she pointed out there's nothing realistic about a high school girl fighting a tank when the other two mentioned using a machete rather than a katana added more realism.
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Old 2020-01-20, 12:43   Link #33
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I loved this episode especially the scenes where they traveled around in the conceptual drawings Midori had made. Asakusa Midori has an impressively active and wide-ranging imagination.

Little worried how they'll fill Asakusa's dream for the school project when they have only 55 days. What will the powers-that-be say when the "film" group displays an anime at the presentation?

I think I sometimes hear the characters using the suffix "-shi" with names. Around four minutes into this week's episode, Midori appropriately calls Kanamori "Kanamori-kun," but it sounds like Kanamori replies with "Akasusa-shi." I believe I've heard the reverse, too, in conversations between that pair. A quick Google search didn't provide an explanation for this usage. I don't think I've heard Mizusaki ever use "-shi" though. Do Kanamori and Akakusa use a local dialect like Kansai-ben that Mizusaki doesn't share?

Mutsumi Tamura who voices Kanamori has quite the impressive resume. She's voiced a number of male and female characters I've seen like Alibaba, Zorore, Lutz, and Kobayashi-san. I wonder if Mutsumi's normal speaking voice is as low-pitched as Kanamori's.

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Old 2020-01-20, 17:05   Link #34
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I loved this episode especially the scenes where they traveled around in the conceptual drawings Midori had made. Asakusa Midori has an impressively active and wide-ranging imagination.
Yeah, this is as close we will ever get to "Calvin & Hobbes: The animation" we will ever get.

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Little worried how they'll fill Asakusa's dream for the school project when they have only 55 days. What will the powers-that-be say when the "film" group displays an anime at the presentation?
The real world solution would be outsorcing to the philiphines, but this is anime so I expect they will do with the power of friendship (and guts).

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I think I sometimes hear the characters using the suffix "-shi" with names. Around four minutes into this week's episode, Midori appropriately calls Kanamori "Kanamori-kun," but it sounds like Kanamori replies with "Akasusa-shi." I believe I've heard the reverse, too, in conversations between that pair. A quick Google search didn't provide an explanation for this usage. I don't think I've heard Mizusaki ever use "-shi" though. Do Kanamori and Akakusa use a local dialect like Kansai-ben that Mizusaki doesn't share?
My bet is they are trying to sound academic (without elevating themselves to a higher level by using -sensei or -hakasei)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_honorifics#Shi
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Old 2020-01-20, 18:14   Link #35
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My bet is they are trying to sound academic (without elevating themselves to a higher level by using -sensei or -hakasei)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_honorifics#Shi
Thanks! Somehow I missed the obvious source!

I can see Akakusa and Kanamori using a very formal honorific in a playful kind of way. It fits their characters.
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Old 2020-01-20, 19:31   Link #36
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In anime, I've only ever heard -shi being used by hardcore otaku type of characters, but Kanamori doesn't fit. It could be her way of making fun of Asakusa.
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Old 2020-01-21, 06:02   Link #37
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Easy Breezy is my new personal motto. It fits the characters perfectly as ones powering their club through to hopeful success through sheer force of optimism and imagination.

I really do hope they manage to do something impressive in those 55 days.
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Old 2020-01-24, 10:08   Link #38
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“Dun dun dun!”

What dorks! Love these girls!

I’m really finding it refreshing though that animation here is not just a means to an end; it actually IS the narrative. And by narrative, not just to flaunt cool looking animation (though it does do that by a ton), but that the animation gives depth to the character’s motivations and goals. It’s not draaamaaa, and I’m glad of it.

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Old 2020-01-25, 20:39   Link #39
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This feels like Yuasa's version of a Shirobako-esque show. Not going to be missing this.
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Old 2020-01-26, 13:25   Link #40
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Eizouken focuses more on the artwork and production techniques while Shirobako focused more on organization and teamwork. Plus it doesn't look like our girls are going to have any computers to help them out, just their bare hands and that camera.

The scene where they discover the camera is so nerdy. Akasusa immediately recognizes this large object as a camera stand and knows the purpose of both its hand-cranks. She must have read about camera stands in her fascination with anime or perhaps watched a TV show about anime production.
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