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2013-04-05, 12:37 | Link #102 | |
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"The Outer Path (外道, Gedō) is the seventh path, an ability granted to the wielder of the Rinnegan. With the Outer Path, the user is able to control life and death by reviving the dead, bind and restrict foes, as well as create and control the Six Paths of Pain." Okay, so Outer Path can revive the dead and bind enemies. Is that supposed to be control over life and death? It sounds like a very ambitious way of saying you can revive the dead. So because he can revive the dead, he can't make mistakes whether or not somebody's heart has stopped? Remember, he thought Kakashi was dead as well. He had no idea Kakashi saved himself with Kamui, which later cost him dearly.
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2013-04-05, 12:50 | Link #103 | |
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2013-04-05, 12:53 | Link #104 | |
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Jiraiya lost consciousness but had enough willpower to regain it for a few moments. There's nothing more to it. You're the one who came up with this whole "soul left the body" theory, don't act like that was what in fact happened.
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I think it's the opposite, the whole point of showing us the Madara vs Hashirama conflict was to show us what is the problem with the world that Naruto has to fix, now we have the context where to put Naruto's actions. So that we can see Naruto growing above the 1st hokage both mentally and physcially, and then there's only the secrets and powers of the Sage of 6 paths that is left for the story. I think a personal meeting with the past hokages could help Naruto a lot mentally. Quote:
Actually i see only one way for the 4 to willingly go back to the world of dead and have a sort of happy ending: if Sasuke decides to join Naruto and the alliance and beat Madara, if he tells that to Hashirama i'm sure that Hashirama would believe him like he believed the young Madara, and would willingly disappear, and also order Tobirama to stfu and disappear too. But i find it unlikely that Sasuke suddenly decides to join the alliance. It's possible if he decides that Madara and Tobito must die (also after learning from Minato that Tobito lied about his role in the kyuubi incident) but after that he won't join Naruto, which would leave us in a Naruto-Sasuke relationship very similar to the Madara-Hashirama's relationship after the village was formed. Quote:
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2013-04-05, 13:02 | Link #107 |
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How can someone come back to life by themselves? That's just plain stupid in any universe. I have never seen that happen in any anime or manga or comic book or any other shit.
No, seriously, what's the point of making a statement like that? And, a big NO to zombie fights please. Do not want to see old relics taking the over the manga. As much as I dislike Naruto's talk-no-jutsu and repetitive shadow clone spamming, I at least want Kishi to stick with his theme of the younger generation surpassing the old.
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2013-04-05, 13:13 | Link #110 | |
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And, I couldn't care less whether Jiraya was dead or not. The point is, in the Narutoverse, death is not final since, people can come back to life - with outside interference obviously.
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2013-04-05, 13:42 | Link #111 |
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ah. i think it's interesting how some people pick and choose which far-fetched elements of the story should be discredited based on logic or based on our reality or whatever. personally, i find someone who just died and then willed himself back to life for a couple seconds to be much less far-fetched then say... summoning the ethereal warrior susano'o, or controlling a zombie army with a risk boardgame, or turning one's self into a chakra canister that can control 100s of puppets, etc... one thing about the narutoverse is that there are no rules. most fictional stories, even surreal ones, have some kinds of limitations or rules, but in naruto pretty much anything can happen. i think that's why some people complain about it at times, myself included, but not often since i have come to terms with the fact that anything is possible in kishi's world. when death loses all meaning and orochimaru can be pulled out of a curse mark then it's time to shrug your shoulders and just try to enjoy it for what it is
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2013-04-05, 13:50 | Link #112 |
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I ain't defending this manga buddy. So, I don't see why we are having an argument. I mean, except for Susano'o I agree with the rest of the things you posted as being completely broken.
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2013-04-05, 14:13 | Link #113 |
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^lol i'm not arguing with you =) i was just raising a point that saying something is 'impossible' has no bearing on anything in naruto since nothing is impossible, which you don't seem to disagree with either. forum posts don't always have to be argumentative
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2013-04-05, 14:39 | Link #114 |
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Why do some of you think Jiraiya didn't will himself back to life in his fight against Pain when multiple characters said he did? Hell, that's not even anything magical...People in the real world have died as in the their brain turns off, heart stops, everything that makes you dead...and they came back to life...Why would it be impossible to do the same thing in the magical narutoverse?
More importantly, why is this even relevant? I don't like to get in other ppls lil squabbles...but when you posted that link from wiki explaining the outer path, one of the first things it said was the power to control life and death....then you ended your post by saying that it doesn't say he has the power to control life or death....blah im done, you two have fun. |
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2013-04-05, 15:31 | Link #116 |
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Anyway, I think the Hokages, or at least Hashirama, may join the battle after all. I was reading a few chapters back when I noticed this:
Apparently Hashirama and Naruto share the same idea of what a shinobi is. I do believe they're going to highlight that.
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2013-04-06, 00:54 | Link #117 |
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Fine JustRob...Jiraiya didn't momentarily die then will himself back to life against Pain, all the characters who were there were wrong, and the writer of the story was wrong to even expect that could be possible in a world where ppl pull meteors from the sky. Only you in your infinite wisdom have discovered what the author should have done, the next time i run into kishi I'll let him know he made a mistake writing his story because some guy on a forum doesn't think willing yourself back to life is logical in a world full of 200 foot talking toads.
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Imo I don't want the kages fighting in this war. But I would really like to see them meet Naruto. Especially Sarutobi. To see his reaction on what Naruto has become. Since the last time he saw him, Naruto was still a brat.
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