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Old 2023-08-06, 16:19   Link #8201
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That part always makes me think. So innovate clear and telos karma is literally visual novel. Mitsuya creates a selection when he wants.
Well Mitsuya basically is a cheater player, even that Shizuka girl ally of him have called him like that in the Vol 25.

Ishi has said that the Hindu Gods have cheat like ability, beside the growing of the power level I think we could see more HAX in future.

However what you guys think about the possibility of more combined techniques in future?

For example it can be that Issei could equip two of his Dividing Wyvern Fairy to the Kiba's propulsor and that Kiba could make propulsor for others, maybe they could be equip to the Nimura's Procellarum Phantom for further increase her speed?
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Old 2023-08-07, 09:00   Link #8202
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Ishi has said that the Hindu Gods have cheat like ability, beside the growing of the power level I think we could see more HAX in future.

However what you guys think about the possibility of more combined techniques in future?

For example it can be that Issei could equip two of his Dividing Wyvern Fairy to the Kiba's propulsor and that Kiba could make propulsor for others, maybe they could be equip to the Nimura's Procellarum Phantom for further increase her speed?
Can't be all of them. Indra and Mahabali don't seem to have cheat abilities despite being very strong. Although I hope Indra will use more powerful weapons other than Vajra.

I don't see Issei doing anything for Kiba and Nimura. Kiba is going to merge his Sacred Gears, which is more than likely going to be a new Longinus. He's Ishibumi's favorite character.

Nimura also has developed her ability to time manipulation. I think they'll be fine. Someone like Irina is better off with the Dividing Wyverns, to reflect Xenovia's Dragonar armour. However, Ishibumi doesn't seem to really care about Irina.
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Old 2023-08-07, 09:20   Link #8203
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Can't be all of them. Indra and Mahabali don't seem to have cheat abilities despite being very strong. Although I hope Indra will use more powerful weapons other than Vajra.

I don't see Issei doing anything for Kiba and Nimura. Kiba is going to merge his Sacred Gears, which is more than likely going to be a new Longinus. He's Ishibumi's favorite character.

Nimura also has developed her ability to time manipulation. I think they'll be fine. Someone like Irina is better off with the Dividing Wyverns, to reflect Xenovia's Dragonar armour. However, Ishibumi doesn't seem to really care about Irina.
If Kiba was going to get a Longinus it would have happened by now. Kiba being Ishibuni's favorite just means he really wouldn't sit on something like that for so long without even giving us a single hint like he did with Gasper. Plus it would just be Canis Lykaon basically except without Jin.

In my opinion Kiba never should have gotten Blade Blacksmith and Ishibumi should have just kept Kiba solely focused on Sword Birth and his demonic swords. He could easily have just mafe those knights the original Balance Breaker of Sword Birth and just had Kiba go beyond his Balance Breaker being inspired by Issei achieving Illegal Move: Triana. Kiba's Blade Blacksmith jz essentially worthless because of his Holy Demonic sword. His Sword Birth is also kind of worthless because of Gram.
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Old 2023-08-07, 09:55   Link #8204
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If Kiba was going to get a Longinus it would have happened by now. Kiba being Ishibuni's favorite just means he really wouldn't sit on something like that for so long without even giving us a single hint like he did with Gasper. Plus it would just be Canis Lykaon basically except without Jin.
Not necessarily, since it's obvious that Ishibumi hasn't planned 100% of all power-ups in advance. So I wouldn't rule out the possibility. Issei is the MC and Ryuuteimaru wasn't planned to be AxA from the start.

And who knows, the fusion might create some extra different abilities as well.
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Old 2023-08-07, 10:26   Link #8205
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Can't be all of them. Indra and Mahabali don't seem to have cheat abilities despite being very strong. Although I hope Indra will use more powerful weapons other than Vajra.
From the Volume 13 Afterword:
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but the Hindu Gods all have cheat-like abilities
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Maybe they hasn't used cause they don't think it was necessary and cause Ishi want keep them for the future

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I don't see Issei doing anything for Kiba and Nimura. Kiba is going to merge his Sacred Gears, which is more than likely going to be a new Longinus. He's Ishibumi's favorite character.
Maybe he can merged his two SG but I dunno about a Longinus.

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I think they'll be fine. Someone like Irina is better off with the Dividing Wyverns, to reflect Xenovia's Dragonar armour. However, Ishibumi doesn't seem to really care about Irina.
I'm agree on this but maybe in the last Volumes thanks Issei and Chichigami all the girls could get a blessing and armor.
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Old 2023-08-07, 10:39   Link #8206
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His Sword Birth is also kind of worthless because of Gram.
I won't be surprise if Kiba would say screw it to Gram and maybe get his a holy demoniac swords enhanced by the Malebranche.

Maybe the Malebranche can not just increasing the powers of devils but of the ones of weapons as well. Perhaps in their weapon form they could synchronize their aura with the ones of others weapons for boosting them at the point of damage beings above Maou Class. It would be a way to Kiba, Xenovia, Irina and Bennia to boosting their weapons and using them without turn into monsters.

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Not necessarily, since it's obvious that Ishibumi hasn't planned 100% of all power-ups in advance. So I wouldn't rule out the possibility. Issei is the MC and Ryuuteimaru wasn't planned to be AxA from the start.
I'm agree with this.

Maybe in the Ishi's blog Issei, Vali, Cao Cao, Tobio and Gasper were the only ones with the ??? cause he have managed to think something about them already but not about the others.

I mean Ingvild's Longinus in the blog haven't the ??? but we should seriously believe that she of all people wouldn't even get the BXB?

Ishi could always surprise us, he is the author and we aren't fortune tellers.

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Old 2023-08-07, 16:00   Link #8207
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Not necessarily, since it's obvious that Ishibumi hasn't planned 100% of all power-ups in advance. So I wouldn't rule out the possibility. Issei is the MC and Ryuuteimaru wasn't planned to be AxA from the start.

And who knows, the fusion might create some extra different abilities as well.
Problem is, Kiba already has holy demonic swords, which is what you'd expect from a fusion of these two Sacred Gears.

This is probably why he gave him Gram in the first place.
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Old 2023-08-07, 18:09   Link #8208
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Problem is, Kiba already has holy demonic swords, which is what you'd expect from a fusion of these two Sacred Gears.

This is probably why he gave him Gram in the first place.
Also why Ishibumi only revealed he had gotten Blade Blacksmith in Volume 9 despite the fact that he had gotten it in Volume 3. He should never have given him a second Sacred Gear in the first place.

Plus as a Longinus Ishibumi would make its abilities unclear like with Aeon Balor which to my knowledge just has the same time-stopping power as Forbidden Balor View. Sure Gasper's is more powerful because of the fragment of Valor's consciousness but is the whole turning into a darkness monster and moving through shadows an ability of his Longinus of his vampiric abilities?

There's really no way to merge Kiba's Sacred Gears and turning it into a Longinus without clashing with other abilities and powers like Canis Lykaon whose main ability is basically the same thing.
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Old 2023-08-08, 04:34   Link #8209
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Plus as a Longinus Ishibumi would make its abilities unclear like with Aeon Balor which to my knowledge just has the same time-stopping power as Forbidden Balor View. Sure Gasper's is more powerful because of the fragment of Valor's consciousness but is the whole turning into a darkness monster and moving through shadows an ability of his Longinus of his vampiric abilities?
Do vampires turn into monsters? I thought they only create monsters from their bodies. Gasper doesn't create monsters from his body IIRC.

It's called Gasper Balor mode and he can regenerate without sleeping inside a coffin. I'm sure it's another one of Balor's powers.
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Old 2023-08-08, 06:40   Link #8210
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It's called Gasper Balor mode and he can regenerate without sleeping inside a coffin. I'm sure it's another one of Balor's powers.
I wonder what would be the ??? of Gasper in the Ishi's Blog?

There who have speculated that maybe Gasper's Power Up could be something he can get by drinking Issei's blood once again.
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Old 2023-08-08, 08:55   Link #8211
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I wonder what would be the ??? of Gasper in the Ishi's Blog?

There who have speculated that maybe Gasper's Power Up could be something he can get by drinking Issei's blood once again.
Seems way overdone. Plus Elmenhilde already uses Issei as a blood bank.

As long as the power-up isn't just him being a hand+to-hand fighter for no reason at all, I'm okay with it.
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Old 2023-08-08, 09:41   Link #8212
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I wonder what would be the ??? of Gasper in the Ishi's Blog?

There who have speculated that maybe Gasper's Power Up could be something he can get by drinking Issei's blood once again.
He should get more time related abilities aside from stopping time. Perhaps reversing time to undo damage, for example. Or maybe that's redundant since he already has regeneration. I also think time reversal is probably going to be one of Melvazoa's abilities.

Personal time acceleration comes to mind, but it's too similar to Procellarum Phantom. I'd prefer if these abilities are unique to certain individuals. So I dunno. There's the option of making his darkness abilities more broken and powerful.

It would be cool if Gasper awakened extra time abilities, similarly to Kurono from Rakudai. It could be triggered by his feelings for Valerie.
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Old 2023-08-08, 14:56   Link #8213
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He should get more time related abilities aside from stopping time.
Maybe he could have the ability to see in future for some seconds.

If Starsend Momentum like someone speculated could be kind of clairvoyance then maybe for fight a Asmodeus's descendant who used a Malebranche it can be that Gasper could development a clairvoyance as well.



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Personal time acceleration comes to mind, but it's too similar to Procellarum Phantom.
I think that Ishi could have more plans for Nimura, she together with Bennia and Garou was one of the members of Sona Sitri's peerage members that Ishi add to the group of the main cast


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It would be cool if Gasper awakened extra time abilities, similarly to Kurono from Rakudai. It could be triggered by his feelings for Valerie.
Well we know that his future counterpart of EX have time manipulation so powerful that is consider a Super Devil so it can be.
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Old 2023-08-08, 17:19   Link #8214
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What's the speculation about Starsend Moment?
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Old 2023-08-08, 17:42   Link #8215
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From what I have see there is people who have speculating that Starsend Momentum could be something like a counter ability such the one of Falbium Asmodeus others think it can be something like a ability to see in the future.
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Old 2023-08-08, 20:08   Link #8216
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He should get more time related abilities aside from stopping time. Perhaps reversing time to undo damage, for example. Or maybe that's redundant since he already has regeneration. I also think time reversal is probably going to be one of Melvazoa's abilities.

Personal time acceleration comes to mind, but it's too similar to Procellarum Phantom. I'd prefer if these abilities are unique to certain individuals. So I dunno. There's the option of making his darkness abilities more broken and powerful.

It would be cool if Gasper awakened extra time abilities, similarly to Kurono from Rakudai. It could be triggered by his feelings for Valerie.
The more complex or overpowered Ishibumi makes certain abilities the more he tends to underutilize them or nerf them outright.

He writes in a these interesting powers that can be used in versatile or very tactical ways but he tends to write fights in a DBZ-esque manner. He tends to forget certain abilities exist like Excalibur Blessing and Nightmare. While not showing others at all like two of Saji's Sacred Gears. Or cutting them out the plot entirely like Annihilation Maker and Sephiroth Graal. While nerfing certain powers that should be way more powerful than they are shown like Rias's POD, Akeno's Holy Lightning, or any holy power in general.

For example Gasper and Saji just became hand-to-hand combatants despite the fact their abilities really contradict that being their main fighting style. He even made Dulio a hand-to-hand combatant against Issei in Volume 23 despite Zenith Tempest being a long-range Longinus. And he even had Cao Cao just boost his spear's power in his fight against Sairaorg rather than using his seven abilities. And in Volume 19 when Gasper fought Strada he didn't even use his time stopping ability at all. Then Ishibuni showed him fighting some fodder and then pretty much cut him out of the major fights concerning Rias by turning him into a power-up for her.

So I wouldn't get my hopes up concerning certain abilities.
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Old 2023-08-08, 20:31   Link #8217
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Problem is, Kiba already has holy demonic swords, which is what you'd expect from a fusion of these two Sacred Gears.

This is probably why he gave him Gram in the first place.
Fusing them could have the holy demonic swords be the default state of SG. This leaves open new potential in regards to the balance breaker. Maybe even his demonic swords could be fused into it as well
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Maybe even his demonic swords could be fused into it as well
Maybe, it could be interesting.

Kiba need something stronger than Gram but not cursed.

I was thinking about the possibility that Issei thanks the power of Ryuuuteimaru could make a evolved version of the Dividing Wyvern Fairy that can turn into weapons. Immagine a red and black sword that can release of few amount of Ophis and GR's aura wielded by Kiba.

There is also the possibility that he could use a Malebranche but instead of power up himself he could use it in the weapon form or maybe the Malebranche could share its with Kiba's Demoniac Sword for increasing their power.
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Old 2023-08-09, 19:22   Link #8219
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Maybe, it could be interesting.

Kiba need something stronger than Gram but not cursed.

I was thinking about the possibility that Issei thanks the power of Ryuuuteimaru could make a evolved version of the Dividing Wyvern Fairy that can turn into weapons. Immagine a red and black sword that can release of few amount of Ophis and GR's aura wielded by Kiba.

There is also the possibility that he could use a Malebranche but instead of power up himself he could use it in the weapon form or maybe the Malebranche could share its with Kiba's Demoniac Sword for increasing their power.
It's not that Gram isn't powerful but Ishibumi seems to not really show it properly. For example, Arthur is supposed to be one of the strongest humans with just his Holy King sword and is supposed to be a rival for Kiba and supposedly matched Siegfried. But Arthur realistically should really be no match against those two with all the equipment that they have. Even taking Kiba's weakness to holy swords as a devil which Ishubumi tends to be very selective with, Arthur still shouldn't be a match for him with all the abilities Kiba has at his disposal. Same goes for Arthur and Siegfried.

Also Gram is supposedly the strongest dragon slayer but not once did Siegfried actually make use of it as he never fought against Issei even though that would have been the perfect opportunity to display what the sword was capable of. And Kiba's last-ditch attack against Issei in Shin Volume 2 didn't even involve Gram which makes no sense.

Gram and the 4 demonic swords that Kiba wields was supposed to be a major power-up but as far as I'm concerned you could simply replace them with the demonic swords Kiba makes with Sword Birth and you really wouldn't notice a difference. Same goes for most of the main cast's special abilities and equipment in this series.

The only people that power-ups really matter for and has any long-term relevance are Issei and Vali. Everyone else just gets thrown a bone or two or outright ignored. So making the Malebranche a power-up for everyone and their mother is just a waste of time and writing space and Ishibumi really has either of those at this point.

Just give the Malebranche to Vali off-screen and give him Lucifer's special ability and call it a day.
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Old 2023-08-09, 19:41   Link #8220
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Ish needs writing classes he needs help asap age can make you better but on his behalf the health doesn’t work well in his favor so much ability potential for so many characters. Just make the Malebranche have host for interesting villains.
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