2012-11-27, 03:00 | Link #4042 |
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Kisara and Blue Eyes White Dragon are quite different though . One is a girl, one is her "guardian spirit" or some sort. You may love the girl but you DON'T flirt or make out with her "guardian spirit" .
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2012-11-27, 03:21 | Link #4044 |
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For those, I guess we’re back on the Waver & Rider fanart case. There’s bromance or closeness in it, but not romance in the slightest. Still, even with that totally unrelated matter, the fanart artists found a reason to draw pics of them flirting. That’s what I call “no basis”. The same thing happen to Kaiba & BEWD even counting Kisara. Sure, Kaiba love BEWD, but NOT in a romantic way like many fanarts suggested.
If you said those fanarts have “enough basis” then we simply have different view of it. PS: If you want to continue this, you can PM me. We're being off-topic here.
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2012-11-29, 01:42 | Link #4046 |
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Thess: I think you once said Gilgamesh's interest in Saber partly originated from a comparison with Enkidu. If that recollection is correct would there be any explicit descriptions of that realisation from the novels or other source material ? Though I should add I'm not saying there would have to be for such an observation to be reasonable. Usually there is some basis for inference and I've already previously taken a few of your observations to be an insightful awareness of character.
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2012-12-03, 11:09 | Link #4049 |
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The reason given in the booklet thing that came with the BDs was that they wanted to focus on Saber in that scene and felt that transitioning to Gil's flashback would divert the attention away from her.
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2012-12-10, 00:36 | Link #4050 |
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there would be some contrast but mostly as a result of simply interpolating the scene without adjustment to the episode's structure. However the reason given does overlook the importance of Gilgamesh's interest (where in the scheme of things he does have a rarefied perspective), if the composition was changed to include said scene and with appropriate adjustments for concordance then the relevance conveyed (for Saber that is) would be improved overall. It is actually an ironic consequence how this supposed concern detracts from potential emphasis.
also, I noticed beforehand there is some indication of a hero's nature or aspirations from the 'glow' their Noble Phantasm emanates. I don't expect there is too much detail on this aspect of the fantasy lore but would like to know if there are any specific discussions or elaborations to be found from any of the source material. Gilgamesh's disapproval of Caster's final spell (although that may not be a Noble Phantasm per se) is quite interesting since it emerges from confusion more than genuine intent.. Furthermore the interplay concludes with Excalibur's illumination restoring Caster's clarity. An interesting conclusion to Caster's embodiment of anguish and confusion (to, as I understood, the problem of evil). I think there was also a related occurrence in Fate Night with Excalibur piercing the veil of another hero. Last edited by Edict; 2012-12-14 at 17:08. Reason: thought I would further clarify the observation and add another question |
2013-01-12, 15:17 | Link #4052 |
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I think you better ask this question in Fate/Stay Night anime thread since you're pretty much asking for others' opinions while the purpose of this thread is: to ask questions that can actually be answered as facts from the anime or game (see page 1).
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2013-02-06, 14:16 | Link #4057 |
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I'll have to re read that part it seems then because for one reason or another I seem to be under that impression so I should go sort what's what (isn't his counter guardian thing only the fact that he's summoned by Gaia whenever he's needed to kill something that threatens the world with the other guardians? I thought he was otherwise a normal servant)
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2013-02-07, 12:37 | Link #4059 |
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Not their memories. I meant their Noble Phantasms that break (Rider's Gorgon wheel was blasted by Excalibur, Diarmuid broke his own Noble Phantasm, Gilgamesh threw 4 Noble Phantasms away).
Do they get it back the next time they are summoned back to the next War?
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2013-02-07, 13:44 | Link #4060 |
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No, technically they don't get them back, since they will never be summoned again. If one of those Heroic Spirits was summoned again in another war, the servant would be a new copy, one that never broke the Noble Phantasm to begin with. So that servant would have all Noble Phantasms.
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