2008-09-30, 11:06 | Link #3042 | |
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Hey, I think it was still noble and powerful even if he didn't actually die, effectively he would be dead now though, and on the plus side if he was immortal it would address concerns made by other posters that this peace he just helped establish would fall apart over time, well what if he was timeless in that case? Works out nicely I think anyway
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2008-09-30, 11:12 | Link #3043 |
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One of the reasons why I'm attracted to Lelouch and C.C because they're both very unique and fresh characters. You can't really find their characteristics anywhere in most animes. And I find CluClu's relationship very unique too. Not typical romance but bonded by promises, platonic feelings, mutual understanding. That is why I love them <3
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2008-09-30, 11:12 | Link #3044 | |
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2008-09-30, 11:17 | Link #3046 |
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Lulu is dead. It's a fact. Now we see speculations/theories that he might be that "cart"? driver or might be on C's world but fact is still fact. He is dead and he can't do anything anymore in the real world. His geass isn't like his mothers it would be too convinient for him if he had that.
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2008-09-30, 11:17 | Link #3047 |
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If Lelouch survives, he is really being unfair to Suzaku. Poor Suzaku will be bearing all the burden and guilt unknowingly as Lelouch took off touring the world with C.C. leading a carefree life. If he is watching the world, it is alright.
It's a different case, if he suddenly found himself alive after everyone thought that he died and Lelouch made it to where C.C. is and reunite with her.
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2008-09-30, 11:20 | Link #3048 | |
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2008-09-30, 11:22 | Link #3049 |
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This is what Suzaku wants. He likes Saving people, reforming the world, justice and stuff like that. It's not unfair to Suzaku at all. he's still a soldier with his Identity hidden. Lelouch decided to what's good for all of them.
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2008-09-30, 11:22 | Link #3050 | |
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2008-09-30, 11:26 | Link #3052 |
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Yeah, at least Lelouch should show some responsibility to drop Suzaku some hints of his survival like their pulling up collar signal . Suzaku won't mind as it is way better than he is working hard behind a mask carrying a burden although it is his dream.
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2008-09-30, 11:28 | Link #3053 | |
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Though I like Lelouch way more than Mwu so if Lulu was shown to be alive for sure I'd probably have more mixed feelings (happy he's alive, but annoyed at the improbable "resurrection" and copout by Taniguchi) rather then the pure rage I felt when Mwu came back. So is your argument that he took Charles' code and knew about it or that he took C.C.'s code? I don't like the latter because it would mean that Lelouch would face eternity alone. I think that's a bit too much of a punishment for him. At least with the Charles thing he'll have C.C. by his side as he faces eternity.
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2008-09-30, 11:30 | Link #3054 | |
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But then again, what do we know about immortality...maybe the pain will be dulled. I'm believing he's dead right mainly because I feel the evidence is about 50-50 and that him being dead gives the ending more beauty and closure (aside from poor CC.
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2008-09-30, 11:41 | Link #3055 | |
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2008-09-30, 11:52 | Link #3056 |
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What makes you guys think he body was burned or mutilated? First and foremost Zero would most likely decide what would happen to the body, and I doubt Suzaku would allow his best friend's body to be burned or mutilated after the sacrifice he made, not to mention that robbing Nunnaly of her brother, even if that was his wish was tough enough. Nobody would go as far as to deny him a proper burial. If he did indeed die, then most likely he was flown over to Britannia and given a marked grave alongside Suzaku's.
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2008-09-30, 12:06 | Link #3057 | |
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CC may have realized it, but I don't think that is too likely either, or they gave him one of those really fancy caskets in a mini-palace, so he could have just walked out. Those geassed guards did need to do something after all. ^_^ This makes the "he found out after he 'died' theory" seriously flawed. And the theory about whether he knew he was immortal and lied to everyone just depends on how highly you think of Lulu.
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2008-09-30, 13:19 | Link #3058 |
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Where is this 50/50 coming from? Stop trying to be statisticians and making up statistics. He died, visibly, on screen. The highest probability is that he is dead, the probability that he is alive is brought forth by people grasping at possible scenarios of explanation, none of which fly all that far without people putting severe holes into the theory.
Activation on death theory -> Charles was never shown to be affected by Lelouch's Geass before shooting himself, after acquiring the code. As such, there is more basis to the idea that, since the Geass animation was missing, that he was no Geassed and that his immortality was immediately activated upon acquiring V.V.'s code. Charles Code -> Plausible, but falls to its knees in light of the fact that he had his Geass and that the activation on death theory has a rather large hole in its face. The driver was oddly cut out -> Or maybe, the focus wasn't on the driver, it was on the crane that was in the middle of the screen as the shot pans up... no couldn't be that, had to be the driver. Do I actually care? No. I can take either possibility, but stop making up numbers. |
2008-09-30, 13:33 | Link #3059 |
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Well, that hole is thrown into question just because we never actually see from the distance, we know it hits but right afterward we pan out and back while he follows up and shoots himself. If you're talking about scene intention however Tael then I have to ask the same in which the whole scene with the cart driver amongst other things plays into this in comparison. Any, as said before, the ending seems to be open to a variety of interpretation and as such I will take Sunrise and Taniguichi up on that invitation as I have said before
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2008-09-30, 13:36 | Link #3060 | |
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Then why was the crane in the middle of the focus? I'm pretty sure panning up to the crane, with the crane then being focused on a few seconds later, puts the crane at a higher importance than a hat. There is nothing to substantiate that it is Lelouch, nothing concrete anyway. |
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