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Old 2009-04-20, 10:05   Link #341
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You do realize that listening to people yap about the true definition of tsundere makes my ears bleed.


I have a similar feeling right now.
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Old 2009-04-20, 10:22   Link #342
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Archer is definitely GAR. Maybe he's a controlled hot-blooded variant and not the normal loose cannons variant that you see. When he goes thru his use of UBW in his fight with Beserker, that to me was also hot-bloodedness.

Sorry your ears are bleeding aohige.
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Old 2009-04-20, 10:58   Link #343
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The main difference between hotbloodedness and GAR is that hotblood is a real term that exists in the Japanese dictionary and GAR is a western word created on the internets, or 4chan to be specific.

GAR never existed until Archer used UBW. Hotblood, nekketsu in Japanese, existed in Japanese vocabulary for a long time.

One is a meme, the other is a proper word, with a proper meaning. GAR and hotbloodedness itself also have fundamentally different meanings, they're not even pointing to the same things.

The meaning of GAR has also been distorted many times in just a few years and the only thing that can describe it quite similarly is 'badassery/ badassness'. It can also be used to describe an action.

Hotbloodedness doesn't describe the character's action, it is the character's spirit and personality.

The problem is because a hotblooded character is usually badass or awesome, it gets described by people as GAR.
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Old 2009-04-20, 12:24   Link #344
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I remember at 4chan, Gar for Archer is a typo for gay for Archer.

So if we use the term, Hotblooded for Kouji? meaning your angry at him? Different terms GAR and hotblood.
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Old 2009-04-20, 12:32   Link #345
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Tesshou Genda is my new favourite voice actor, the best narrator ever, his hotbloodedness multiplies the hotbloodedness of the show. He is like subpilots in SRW that provides hotblooded seishin to the main pilot.
His scream in Basara when he punched the lights out of the ninja is the best scream of the season.

Too bad he's only a narrator in this show. But still the hotblood seeps through like nobody's business. At least we know he's got his own punch .
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Old 2009-04-20, 12:46   Link #346
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Needs more ROCKET PUNCH!!!

Spoiler for Pilder On & Rocket Punch:
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Old 2009-04-20, 12:50   Link #347
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I remember at 4chan, Gar for Archer is a typo for gay for Archer.

So if we use the term, Hotblooded for Kouji? meaning your angry at him? Different terms GAR and hotblood.
Yea, but people already abandoned that definition for GAR and even more people didn't know about the original definition, one of the reasons the meaning distorted.

GAR originally was a meme for a typo. The guy was so in awe with Archer's UBW, he wanted to say 'I am gay for Archer', but he typed 'I am gar for Archer'. But not everyone knew this and just used the meme because GAR sounded awesome and since then it never was its original meaning anymore.

Hotblood is not really anger, hotblood has nothing to do with angst as well.

Hotblood is an intense passion, a powerful enthusiasm, zeal, fervor or spirit for something. Usually in heroes, its the passion for righteousness, justice, beliefs and such. A villian can be hotblooded as well, for their beliefs, and most of the times in 'knightly' or martial artistic enemies who fight in duels. They have this passion to fight and win an opponent, that is hotbloodedness as well.

And at Shingen's UUUUUUUURRYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

Yea that was one of the most hotblooded yells I've ever heard.
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Old 2009-04-20, 13:05   Link #348
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I still go for Ryoma's "SHIN SHINE SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRK!!!!!!"

Either voice 70's or present is awesome.

In Kouji's voice, Iam still on the acceptance stage.
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Old 2009-04-20, 13:24   Link #349
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Akira Kamiya is the mecha voice acting God.

He was Ryouma Nagare(Getter Robo), Tsuwabuki Sanshirou(Gaiking), Kazuya Ryuuzaki(Daimos), Akira Hibiki(Reideen), Roy Focker(Macross) in SRW Alpha 3. He is the best mecha anime voice actor ever. And he's also Kenshiro of Fist of the North Star.

What ever he yells, is a legendary quote.

GEEETTTAAAAA BIIIIIIIIMUU!!!!!!
FEEEIISUUU OOOOPUUNN!!!!
FAAAIAAAA BUURRIIIIZAAAADOO!!!!! HISSATSU!! REPPU SEIKEN ZUKI!!!!!
GOOODOO AAARUFAAAAA...!!! REEEEEIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!
Skull Leader yori kaku ki he! Formation EF9 da!!! EYYYAAAAAAAAHOOOOOOO!!!!!!
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Old 2009-04-20, 13:33   Link #350
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Akira Kamiya is the mecha voice acting God.

He was Ryouma Nagare(Getter Robo), Tsuwabuki Sanshirou(Gaiking), Kazuya Ryuuzaki(Daimos), Akira Hibiki(Reideen), Roy Focker(Macross) in SRW Alpha 3. He is the best mecha anime voice actor ever. And he's also Kenshiro of Fist of the North Star.

What ever he yells, is a legendary quote.

GEEETTTAAAAA BIIIIIIIIMUU!!!!!!
FEEEIISUUU OOOOPUUNN!!!!
FAAAIAAAA BUURRIIIIZAAAADOO!!!!! HISSATSU!! REPPU SEIKEN ZUKI!!!!!
GOOODOO AAARUFAAAAA...!!! REEEEEIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!
Skull Leader yori kaku ki he! Formation EF9 da!!! EYYYAAAAAAAAHOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Spoiler for 100 Crack Fists:


I wish Mazinger Z could do that move. Though Mazinkaiser has the Kaiser Knuckle which he pounds an enemey with his powerful turbine fists. Domon though of G-Gundam can do Hakuretsuken, but he doesn't hit the vital areas needed to blow the enemy up.

Anyways rarely do I see speed in hand to hand combat on Mazinger Machines and UFO Grendicer, their like one hit killers since one Rocket Punch can end multiple robots, UNLIKE some other more than 100 stories high robots I know.
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Old 2009-04-20, 13:51   Link #351
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*Some stuff about definition of a meme snipped*
Stop, before my urge to murder you hits the limit.
A Meme is defined by usage, not the otherway around.
In other words, it is defined by how pop culture uses them, it does not MATTER what it's originated from.
Even regular vocabulary changes over the course of time, by its usages in popular culutre, and a meme is even more suspectable to change due to its urban nature.
It's the same as tsundere and moe, it's absolutely silly to be stubborn about it, and it's downright criminal to rant about it in a long discussion.
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Old 2009-04-20, 13:53   Link #352
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Yeah so can we just get back to talking about how awesome this show is, and how cruel the bandai channel is?
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Old 2009-04-20, 19:33   Link #353
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Yeah so can we just get back to talking about how awesome this show is, and how cruel the bandai channel is?
Okay, so why is the regular broadcast docked 3 min per ep? Is it the station or Bandai?
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Old 2009-04-21, 00:33   Link #354
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Perhaps it's reserved for the DVD and that will include other extra stuff.

I have no idea what they are saying...But the Shin Mazinger Intro Music plays later on.

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Old 2009-04-21, 23:05   Link #355
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Kanjite Knight is out at the usual places.
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Old 2009-04-22, 05:24   Link #356
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Oh my, full OP is marvelous. This is the kind of song i just have to blast out loud everytime it's on.

& gotta love the artist tag.
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Old 2009-04-22, 11:19   Link #357
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This song stirs my blood in a way that has only been achieved by the likes of SKILL and GONG. Its just so epic.
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Old 2009-04-22, 14:19   Link #358
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The build up to the rocket punch was the greatest thing ever, ever!

Also thanks Gattai for including the Bandai channel segments, while the difference in animation is glaringly obvious the flow of the episode seems much better with the extra scenes.
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Old 2009-04-22, 16:38   Link #359
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The build up to the rocket punch was the greatest thing ever, ever!
Yeah that scene was handled so damn well. Showing it as a flashback was one thing, though adding the narrator just goes to show how epic this show is. Gotta love the repeated scene and line leading upto the Rocket Punch.

Another thanks from me to Gattai adding the Bandai Channel scenes. After seeing them for myself, it's all the more confusing as to why they'd only show these scenes like that. Some of them are quite important.
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Old 2009-04-22, 17:47   Link #360
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An anon cookie told me I don't understand what hotbloodedness is, I guess hotbloodedness must have lost all its meaning.

There was once this song called Let's Go Passion, and Jupitorians worshipped a mecha anime called Gekiganger 3. Hotbloodedness was their greatest virtue, passion and zeal was their pushing force.

Whoever gave me the cookie, please do watch Nadesico for the easiest way to understand what hotblooded means. Also it would be polite to leave a name after the cookies.
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