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Kaguya · 2010-09-19, 15:38

Although it was not an art book, I bought the book of a title called Kosuke Fujishima's Character Laboratory recently.

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview....Y=NEOBK-791444

The illustration of Holo which Kosuke Fujishima (creator of "Oh My Goddess") draws is contained in it.
And the talk of Isuna Hasekura and Kosuke Fujishima is also included.
As an interesting thing, because Hasekura did not have data of medieval Northern Europe, he said in the talk that Yoits might be set as Russia.

Russians' Wolf God Холо...

I remembered that DVD and Manga were released even in Russia.
Even Russia has a Horo/Holo (Хоро/Холо) problem and the Russian translator is explaining it.
Google translation

poleno · 2010-09-20, 07:33

I'm from Russia

Yes. This is good link with the true information.
Russian community had a little holy war (Holo war) for Horo (Хоро), but lost. We are using Holo (Холо) now.

Wolf God Холо from Russia…
Looks like a fox, wolf have never been seen in Russia. I remember that it’s wolf from America. However, we have a lot of wolfs from end of first season

Of course, Hasekura could mix it.

It is easy to believe in the Russian Yoits in the middle of winter forests with wolfs and big Bear. But it's easy in Norway too.

I have played with names Horo/Holo/Холо/Хоро as part of a word similar in pronunciation (I hope) to Japan. Funnily, but useless. Names of Horo's friends are too far from Russia.
Holo/Холо/колос – ear (of wheat)
Holo/Холо/холод – cold
Horo/Хоро/хоро (or хоровод) – village's ancient, very ancient folk dance with songs that stands (nobody is sure yet) for Gods, world, world’s creation. For exp - http://www.baikaltravel.ru/common/up...enica(1-1).jpg
Horo/Хоро/хорош – be good

Kaguya · 2010-09-20, 15:09

"Canis lupus lupus" seems to be the wolf which inhabits East Europe and Russia.
But, it is decreasing sharply.

Rajura · 2010-09-20, 16:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by poleno

I'm from Russia

Yes. This is good link with the true information.
Russian community had a little holy war (Holo war) for Horo (Хоро), but lost. We are using Holo (Холо) now.

...

Oh well, whatever the language (or spelling), Holo is still beautiful.

And we do need to approximate the proper spelling of Holo's name as close as possible whenever her we are translating, so Холо was the right call in my most humble opinion.

poleno · 2010-09-21, 01:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaguya

"Canis lupus lupus" seems to be the wolf which inhabits East Europe and Russia.

I think about Holo as about Red wolf (Cuon alpinus). Or American Red Wolf (Canis lupus rufus)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajura

Oh well, whatever the language (or spelling), Holo is still beautiful.

Horo had been used for 2 years in R before the anime was licensed. Is it first love? Ж)

Rajura · 2010-09-21, 05:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by poleno

Horo had been used for 2 years in R before the anime was licensed. Is it first love? Ж)

Maybe...

I guess I'm just a bit more flexible with it than most people though... I'll go either way with the spelling.

But, considering we know how to spell her name now...

FlareKnight · 2010-09-25, 22:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajura

Maybe...

I guess I'm just a bit more flexible with it than most people though... I'll go either way with the spelling.

But, considering we know how to spell her name now...

I kind of envy those that can be pretty flexible about it. Since honestly someone will have to ban me before I give up on Horo. Maybe in time I can just see the l as some deformed r and that will be that

.

Rajura · 2010-09-25, 23:18

Hahaha... I started out with Horo, but when I saw and heard the her was spelled Holo, I had to adapt. I mean that's her name. You wouldn't spell your Mom or GF's name wrong for whatever reason ne?

For me Horo, Holo, Хоро, Холо, 호로, ホロ... I can be flexible; those all mean the same to me. But... if we are gonna spell her name correctly, it is Holo.

But... I won't get mad at anyone for spelling it another way.

poleno · 2010-09-26, 02:47

May be I’m too annoying, but, for the purity of thought, I have remembered that official publisher says that prototype of Holo is “chrysocyon brachyurus”.

Kaguya · 2010-09-26, 15:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by poleno

May be I’m too annoying, but, for the purity of thought, I have remembered that official publisher says that prototype of Holo is “chrysocyon brachyurus”.

The similarity with real wolf may be meaningless because it is a story in the fictitious world.
Since I think that this is an Off Topic Theme, I take up other information.

Although I was almost uninterested, the collaboration of RPG Disgaea 4 and Spice and Wolf was announced.
They have not shown clearly what kind of collaboration it is yet.
But, To Aru Majutsu no Index, Lotte no Omocha!, etc. are also contained in collaboration list.
Disgaea 4 is PS3 format and is released on February 24, 2011.

http://disgaea.jp/4/
http://dps.dengeki.com/2010/09/17/p24649/

Since there is no new item these days, I am slightly disappointing.

Rajura · 2010-09-26, 19:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaguya

The similarity with real wolf may be meaningless because it is a story in the fictitious world.
Since I think that this is an Off Topic Theme, I take up other information.

Although I was almost uninterested, the collaboration of RPG Disgaea 4 and Spice and Wolf was announced.
They have not shown clearly what kind of collaboration it is yet.
But, To Aru Majutsu no Index, Lotte no Omocha!, etc. are also contained in collaboration list.
Disgaea 4 is PS3 format and is released on February 24, 2011.

http://disgaea.jp/4/
http://dps.dengeki.com/2010/09/17/p24649/

Since there is no new item these days, I am slightly disappointing.

Thanks... that is good to know.

However, I am afraid such a collaboration will not do Holo justice!

JML · 2010-10-02, 05:44

Hey guys, I just wanted to share this with you.

Because today, I'm the happiest man of the world. Even if Chronopost and french customs teared my portfolio into shreds, just have a look of what I received this morning :

Spoiler for image size:

Ok I'm crazy because I currently cannot read those novels, but I'm working on it !
Wait for me Holo =3

Rajura · 2010-10-02, 05:59

Nice haul...

Are you planning on getting:
1) the limited edition of the first DS game
2) Ookami to Koushinryou Ookami to Kin no Mugiho story book
3) The manga volumes + the Dengeki Comic Anthology OtK manga book

You know... for completion purposes?

JML · 2010-10-02, 06:24

Eeee....you're right but first I have to :

1) Continue learning japanese to be able to read the novels
2) Focus on my research for an internship to Japan
3) Wait for funds before thinking to buy anything else

But for sure, I'll complete my collection !

poleno · 2010-10-02, 12:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by JML

Because today, I'm the happiest man of the world.

But I'm the most jealous man of the world...
But nice, yes.
Is it uncludes cards or coin?

JML · 2010-10-03, 08:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by poleno

Is it uncludes cards or coin?

Nein, coins are not in my top list currently. I first focus on all the books and games. Then I'll see.

By the way, I found 4 bookmarks hidden in the novels, including one with Holo (others are just Dengeki Bunko Magazine bookmarks), and some papers to suscribe to Dengeki Bunko Magazine.

woxx · 2010-10-03, 14:13

Great

nsmcho · 2010-11-07, 08:01

Hi
I see the english DVD are region 1 only. Can't I buy a japanese DVD and add subtitles from the internet?
I don't really want to buy one of those chinese region free craps.

tyranuus · 2010-11-07, 17:26

A region free DVD player is really really cheap (my last one cost me... think it was £20). It's probably cheaper to buy the US release and a cheap region free player, than the japanese release

Vexx · 2010-11-07, 20:25

j-list.com sells a player that meets most people's needs for about $90. hint: totally ignore what the user manual claims about the region locks.

2010-09-20, 07:33	Link #542
poleno Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Chantilly, Virginia	I'm from Russia Yes. This is good link with the true information. Russian community had a little holy war (Holo war) for Horo (Хоро), but lost. We are using Holo (Холо) now. Wolf God Холо from Russia… Looks like a fox, wolf have never been seen in Russia. I remember that it’s wolf from America. However, we have a lot of wolfs from end of first season Of course, Hasekura could mix it. It is easy to believe in the Russian Yoits in the middle of winter forests with wolfs and big Bear. But it's easy in Norway too. I have played with names Horo/Holo/Холо/Хоро as part of a word similar in pronunciation (I hope) to Japan. Funnily, but useless. Names of Horo's friends are too far from Russia. Holo/Холо/колос – ear (of wheat) Holo/Холо/холод – cold Horo/Хоро/хоро (or хоровод) – village's ancient, very ancient folk dance with songs that stands (nobody is sure yet) for Gods, world, world’s creation. For exp - http://www.baikaltravel.ru/common/up...enica(1-1).jpg Horo/Хоро/хорош – be good Last edited by poleno; 2010-09-20 at 07:56.

2010-09-25, 23:18	Link #548
Rajura My wolfu is >> your waifu Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Charleston, West Virginia Age: 42	Hahaha... I started out with Horo, but when I saw and heard the her was spelled Holo, I had to adapt. I mean that's her name. You wouldn't spell your Mom or GF's name wrong for whatever reason ne? For me Horo, Holo, Хоро, Холо, 호로, ホロ... I can be flexible; those all mean the same to me. But... if we are gonna spell her name correctly, it is Holo. But... I won't get mad at anyone for spelling it another way. __________________ Primary Faith: Christianity Secondary Faith: Holoism

2010-10-02, 05:44	Link #552
JML ホロが大好きじゃ Join Date: Sep 2010	Hey guys, I just wanted to share this with you. Because today, I'm the happiest man of the world. Even if Chronopost and french customs teared my portfolio into shreds, just have a look of what I received this morning : Spoiler for image size: Ok I'm crazy because I currently cannot read those novels, but I'm working on it ! Wait for me Holo =3 __________________

2010-10-02, 05:59	Link #553
Rajura My wolfu is >> your waifu Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Charleston, West Virginia Age: 42	Nice haul... Are you planning on getting: 1) the limited edition of the first DS game 2) Ookami to Koushinryou Ookami to Kin no Mugiho story book 3) The manga volumes + the Dengeki Comic Anthology OtK manga book You know... for completion purposes? __________________ Primary Faith: Christianity Secondary Faith: Holoism

2010-10-02, 06:24	Link #554
JML ホロが大好きじゃ Join Date: Sep 2010	Eeee....you're right but first I have to : 1) Continue learning japanese to be able to read the novels 2) Focus on my research for an internship to Japan 3) Wait for funds before thinking to buy anything else But for sure, I'll complete my collection ! __________________

2010-09-19, 15:38	Link #541
Kaguya an idler Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Suzuka	Although it was not an art book, I bought the book of a title called Kosuke Fujishima's Character Laboratory recently. http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview....Y=NEOBK-791444 The illustration of Holo which Kosuke Fujishima (creator of "Oh My Goddess") draws is contained in it. And the talk of Isuna Hasekura and Kosuke Fujishima is also included. As an interesting thing, because Hasekura did not have data of medieval Northern Europe, he said in the talk that Yoits might be set as Russia. Russians' Wolf God Холо... I remembered that DVD and Manga were released even in Russia. Even Russia has a Horo/Holo (Хоро/Холо) problem and the Russian translator is explaining it. Google translation

2010-09-20, 15:09	Link #543
Kaguya an idler Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Suzuka	"Canis lupus lupus" seems to be the wolf which inhabits East Europe and Russia. But, it is decreasing sharply.

2010-09-26, 02:47	Link #549
poleno Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Chantilly, Virginia	May be I’m too annoying, but, for the purity of thought, I have remembered that official publisher says that prototype of Holo is “chrysocyon brachyurus”.

2010-10-03, 14:13	Link #557
woxx Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: eastern europe :(	Great

2010-11-07, 08:01	Link #558
nsmcho Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Age: 42	Hi I see the english DVD are region 1 only. Can't I buy a japanese DVD and add subtitles from the internet? I don't really want to buy one of those chinese region free craps.

2010-11-07, 17:26	Link #559
tyranuus Team Spice and Wolf UK Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: England Age: 36	A region free DVD player is really really cheap (my last one cost me... think it was £20). It's probably cheaper to buy the US release and a cheap region free player, than the japanese release __________________ Total Anime watched= Enough. What can I say? I'm a convert... *** PRAY FOR SPICE AND WOLF III and faster Yenpress novel releases! Reading: None at the moment

2010-11-07, 20:25	Link #560
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	j-list.com sells a player that meets most people's needs for about $90. hint: totally ignore what the user manual claims about the region locks. __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!