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View Poll Results: Critique of Episode 02 | |||
10 out of 10: Near Perfect... | 36 | 19.78% | |
9 out of 10: Excellent... | 49 | 26.92% | |
8 out of 10: Very Good... | 43 | 23.63% | |
7 out of 10: Good... | 32 | 17.58% | |
6 out of 10: Average... | 16 | 8.79% | |
5 out of 10: Below Average... | 1 | 0.55% | |
4 out of 10: Poor... | 2 | 1.10% | |
3 out of 10: Bad... | 1 | 0.55% | |
2 out of 10: Very Bad... | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10: Torturous... | 2 | 1.10% | |
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2012-07-15, 06:46 | Link #261 |
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I'm just wondering where on earth they'd even find the time to insert all these scenes everyone talked about. From my (anime-viewer) POV, taking down the first boss by the end of the second episode should take every priority.
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2012-07-15, 06:49 | Link #262 | ||
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Once Egil pointed out the manual I found it really hard to sympathize noobies who wouldn't even take simple precautions to safeguard themselves. Did they forget this was a merciless death game now? What does it matter in the end if someone was a beta tester or not? This not a competition and frankly wouldn't be surprised half of 2000 players died more from idiocy than anything else. I dunno the whole beater thing felt rather "forced". |
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2012-07-15, 07:04 | Link #264 | |
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It's the same concept here. Even if we assume that everyone is sharing the goal of clearing the tower, the game is ultimately a scramble for limited resources. As such, there are a good number of people who are uncomfortable with anyone else who has an edge over everyone else. With that in mind, it shouldn't take long for people to grow suspicious of those who know more than they do. The only way to quell that distrust is if those who have share all they have with those who don't have. That way, everyone would be equal. However, there will always be the suspicion that the beta-testers who helped compile the book are still hiding more information that will give them an advantage over other players. Of course, as many have mentioned, in times of anger and grief, people tend to look for a suitable target for their emotions. In short, the need for a scapegoat is just them rationalizing their negative emotions to keep themselves stable.
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2012-07-15, 07:28 | Link #266 | |
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I believe however, even from anime point of view, that this episode suppose to be Asuna debut episode. When you introduce someone and he/she is not interesting, there is a problem. If majority of viewers think Asuna is fine as she is now, then it is fine. that is all there is to it.
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2012-07-15, 07:32 | Link #267 |
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To clarify my earlier statement, I meant that Kirito was the focus of the anime episode. It wouldn't make sense to focus on Asuna this early in the series in my opinion.
I haven't read that particular side story yet after all, so you can call me an anime-only viewer in that regard.
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2012-07-15, 07:37 | Link #268 | |
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At the very least I can appreciate the fact that there is an explanation behind it I just don't like it. I don't think this will hamper my enjoyment of the series anyway.
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2012-07-15, 07:47 | Link #269 | ||
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2012-07-15, 07:48 | Link #270 | |
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Well, would you want to be hated?
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2012-07-15, 08:01 | Link #271 |
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oh right, this is the episode thread, so I can't reveal anything about the LN. Sorry about that.
I'm just wondering why telling people you're a Beater would automatically trigger insta-hate. If you're telling them, then that has to mean something.
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2012-07-15, 08:03 | Link #272 | |
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Many of the players are angry and desperate, and they need a channel to divert those excess emotions. They can hardly target their feelings towards Kayaba Akihiko since he is virtually unreachable, so they need a much more tangible scapegoat to receive the brunt of their negative emotions. I mean, they could live on indefinitely by just blaming their predicaments on the beta testers "not sharing their information", like how some people like blaming the government for every single problem in society.
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2012-07-15, 08:11 | Link #273 | |
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If I were a newbie I'll grab the chance to join a party with a beater but keep on guard if your purpose in the party is as bait. |
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2012-07-15, 08:11 | Link #274 | |
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2012-07-15, 08:16 | Link #275 | |
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The next episode should and hopefully set up the background for Kirito's actions throughout the story arc. |
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2012-07-15, 08:36 | Link #276 |
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Man this thread moves fast.
Didn't get to watch the second episode until just now. I'm an anime-only viewer but judging from several posts I read on the first page, this adaptation apparently skipped a few things from the source material. While that's normally something I don't particularly approve of, I'm making an exception here. Why? Because the episode was actually entertaining regardless. I got pretty much exactly what I wanted to see with a series in this setting and I'm very very glad they did it in an respectable and dignified way.
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2012-07-15, 09:01 | Link #278 |
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Pardon my out-of-place second post. I meant to put the following with my previous one but I accidentally hit the "post reply" button and I figured this thread moves too quickly for post editing to be noticed very well. (EDIT: Oops, I suppose not. Well I guess it's not a double post so it should be alright.)
Just a few thoughts on some things this episode: Diabel was a beta tester too yes? So why exactly did he not notice the change in the boss' weapon too like Kirito did? I'd have a hard time believing it's because he was never able to get past the first floor, so the only reasonable conclusion I could come to was that he intended to sacrifice himself from the beginning. Kirito is also a "cheater" as well as a beta tester. So what specifically does that imply? As far as I saw, all he explained was that he managed to get the farthest in the beta out of everybody else who played it. I don't know if that's an abnormal thing for a beta tester who doesn't tamper with the game's coding, considering I'm not an MMORPG buff, but surely there's a chance Kirito just got there though pure skill too no? Also another good sign, Asuna didn't piss me off in her first appearance. They're treating her character with some dignity so far and the supposed romantic relationship between her and Kirito isn't just some spontaneous thing that happens shortly after they first meet. I suppose this is her first time playing an MMORPG too considering she didn't realize that party member names are displayed which makes the fact she's playing one, at least to me, a lot more believable. My apologies if my above concerns have already been addressed in this thread. It's just rather tedious to patiently read almost 300 posts in a single sitting.
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2012-07-15, 09:05 | Link #279 | ||
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That being said, the other players need to just shut the hell up. The beta-testers are risking their lives by going it solo, while they can group up and remove 95% of the risk. Sure, it's slower and they risk not getting as many levels or items, but they also won't die. Don't try to be a hero when you aren't willing to risk anything. |
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