Little Busters - Game Discussion (Little Busters & Ecstasy!)

[TheCuriousFan]

Originally Posted by ronelm2000

EDIT exists.

Anyway,

Spoiler:

It's supposedly before Refrain............

Sorry, fixed it.

Spoiler for VN spoilers:

That raises further questions.

What's Kanata doing in the dream world then? Wasn't she in a different class?

Either way, thank you for the answer.

[Rising7]

Originally Posted by TheCuriousFan

Sorry, fixed it.

Spoiler for VN spoilers:

That raises further questions.

What's Kanata doing in the dream world then? Wasn't she in a different class?

Either way, thank you for the answer.

There's a drama CD that shows this:

Spoiler:

Kanata's "twin bond" with Haruka lets her in after a number of bad omens like the hairpiece falling to the floor and sudden tears.

[ronelm2000]

Originally Posted by TheCuriousFan

Sorry, fixed it.

Spoiler for VN spoilers:

That raises further questions.

What's Kanata doing in the dream world then? Wasn't she in a different class?

Either way, thank you for the answer.

The thing is....

Spoiler:

That's the thing: Kanata's character is surprisingly consistent for something made in the dream world. Remember that the dream world is something like an imaginary mirror of the real one, only twisted by our main heroine's dreams. In fact, Kanata and Haruka's stories may not actually be true.

"may" being emphasized.

[nungguibu]

So I just finished Saya's route and

Spoiler:

Is Saya route really ended just like that? No meetup at real world just like Kanata's? honestly I'm feeling abit sad after i saw the ending and sorted everything up via lb wiki. Poor Aya, she deserves better ending ;_;

ps . tbh when i played Replay as Saya and she appeared to be holding back tears when Riki asked wether they have already met before or not, i thought she was thinking about her only childhood friend but apparently she was thinking about the previous game cycle, so my question is, is that childhood boy friend is really Riki just like what the lb wiki said?

[Zankoku12]

Originally Posted by nungguibu

So I just finished Saya's route and

Spoiler:

Is Saya route really ended just like that? No meetup at real world just like Kanata's? honestly I'm feeling abit sad after i saw the ending and sorted everything up via lb wiki. Poor Aya, she deserves better ending ;_;

ps . tbh when i played Replay as Saya and she appeared to be holding back tears when Riki asked wether they have already met before or not, i thought she was thinking about her only childhood friend but apparently she was thinking about the previous game cycle, so my question is, is that childhood boy friend is really Riki just like what the lb wiki said?

Spoiler:

"No meet up in the real world" part is because,you know...She's kinda already dead in real life. lol

Yeah,her childhood is Riki.
The final part in her route,when she talked to her father and told him about the dream she just had,how she was being cool,fighting enemies and falling in love with a boy.After hearing it,her father said(from what I can made out): "If it's that boy then the feeling must be mutual"(maybe?) then he told her it's time to play soccer with that boy again.Aya ran off and shouted "let's go,Riki-kun !"
Aya and Riki used to play soccer together,that's why she said she wanted to play soccer when Riki asked her what she want to do with their date in the dream world. Too bad Riki thought that was too childish for their age so he took her to the game center instead.Make me wonder if Riki would have remember something about Aya at that time if they played soccer instead.

[nungguibu]

Originally Posted by Zankoku12

Spoiler:

"No meet up in the real world" part is because,you know...She's kinda already dead in real life. lol

Yeah,her childhood is Riki.
The final part in her route,when she talked to her father and told him about the dream she just had,how she was being cool,fighting enemies and falling in love with a boy.After hearing it,her father said(from what I can made out): "If it's that boy then the feeling must be mutual"(maybe?) then he told her it's time to play soccer with that boy again.Aya ran off and shouted "let's go,Riki-kun !"
Aya and Riki used to play soccer together,that's why she said she wanted to play soccer when Riki asked her what she want to do with their date in the dream world. Too bad Riki thought that was too childish for their age so he took her to the game center instead.Make me wonder if Riki would have remember something about Aya at that time if they played soccer instead.

Spoiler:

I see lol. thats sad. I was hoping to see an ending where Riki somehow visiting her in real life and supported her to live =[

EDIT : just re-read the last scene and looks like I misunderstand smth big at the end... I thought the last moment of her was after somehow she got rescued, but it was actually

Spoiler:

she really went back into her childhood time, with almost all the memory of the other world remained on her, and from here now i can confirm that the childhood boy friend is Riki too because she said both of them are called Riki. Now i understand why Kyosuke said Riki should not go back in time with her, because there are already another Riki there. Wow what a nice story... now i can finally let this series go in peace (I might interpreted this wrongly but this conclusion is the best for me )

[Natsurin]

...God, I want to play Ecstasy so badly ... Should I give it a go with ITH?

[Zankoku12]

Originally Posted by nungguibu

Spoiler:

I see lol. thats sad. I was hoping to see an ending where Riki somehow visiting her in real life and supported her to live =[

EDIT : just re-read the last scene and looks like I misunderstand smth big at the end... I thought the last moment of her was after somehow she got rescued, but it was actually

Spoiler:

she really went back into her childhood time, with almost all the memory of the other world remained on her, and from here now i can confirm that the childhood boy friend is Riki too because she said both of them are called Riki. Now i understand why Kyosuke said Riki should not go back in time with her, because there are already another Riki there. Wow what a nice story... now i can finally let this series go in peace (I might interpreted this wrongly but this conclusion is the best for me )

Spoiler:

Actually,I interpreted her ending as another part of her memory or she created her own dream world to re-live her happy time with Riki.The whole time machine thingy is just something Kyosuke brought up to make everyone fell better,there's no such thing as time machine in the first place.
And I don't think Kyosuke said that to Riki.It's been long since I played Saya's route but I think Riki's last thought by the end of the conversation with Kyosuke was something like "Could it be that we(he and Saya) already met each other in the past?"(Yep,I don't think he figured out Saya is actually Aya and the sad part about Saya's route is that she will be completely forgotten outside her route.)

Originally Posted by Mentatsumi

...God, I want to play Ecstasy so badly ... Should I give it a go with ITH?

Saya's route is the longest one (it's twice longer than Refrain,I think) so if you're ready to hurt your eyes with machine translation for hours then go ahead

[nungguibu]

Originally Posted by Zankoku12

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Actually,I interpreted her ending as another part of her memory or she created her own dream world to re-live her happy time with Riki.The whole time machine thingy is just something Kyosuke brought up to make everyone fell better,there's no such thing as time machine in the first place.
And I don't think Kyosuke said that to Riki.It's been long since I played Saya's route but I think Riki's last thought by the end of the conversation with Kyosuke was something like "Could it be that we(he and Saya) already met each other in the past?"(Yep,I don't think he figured out Saya is actually Aya and the sad part about Saya's route is that she will be completely forgotten outside her route.)

Saya's route is the longest one (it's twice longer than Refrain,I think) so if you're ready to hurt your eyes with machine translation for hours then go ahead

Spoiler:

Oh yeah I didn't think there's a possibility about that last scene is just her delusion or dream world.. I know that there's no such thing as time machine there and it was just Kyosuke's suggestion, because he himself (assuming that mask guy is him) asked this to Saya "Is this really ok?", that and if i remember correctly Saya herself saying this at the last moment to herself, that the secret treasure that she wished is a way to get out from the dream world

But still I wanna believe that it was a real world and she really came back because of some miracle like how Riki and Rin came back and managed to overcome their weakness to help others xd

And about ITH tbh i played EX routes with the help of ITH and rikaichan (I trust this addon more than google translate) to cover up my lack of vocabulary and kanji lol. The story somehow still flowed on my head even with some pauses each time I encountered new kanji and vocabulary

[Zankoku12]

^

Spoiler:

From what I can made out about the treasure,obviously Saya wanted the time machine but she knew that impossible so she asked that masked man to make it some sort of nuclear weapon instead as a way to end her story.

Well,Rin nad Riki got each other and the bond with their friends while Saya/Aya got no one.And if we look at her situation again : A little girl being half buried alive under a huge landslide in a middle of nowhere and it's raining. She even described how her body start getting so cold and she couldn't move or feel her left arm.
And where could that miracle coming from if the dude she loves can't even remember her (he's too busy going to the beach to have fun with his friends anyway). Not to mention if she really went back in time then that mean she would just repeat her death and died all over again
So anyway,that's why I prefer if the ending's flashback is actually Aya's own dream world.

Also because I like crushing people's hope and dream ~

[nungguibu]

Originally Posted by Zankoku12

^

Spoiler:

From what I can made out about the treasure,obviously Saya wanted the time machine but she knew that impossible so she asked that masked man to make it some sort of nuclear weapon instead as a way to end her story.

Well,Rin nad Riki got each other and the bond with their friends while Saya/Aya got no one.And if we look at her situation again : A little girl being half buried alive under a huge landslide in a middle of nowhere and it's raining. She even described how her body start getting so cold and she couldn't move or feel her left arm.
And where could that miracle coming from if the dude she loves can't even remember her (he's too busy going to the beach to have fun with his friends anyway). Not to mention if she really went back in time then that mean she would just repeat her death and died all over again
So anyway,that's why I prefer if the ending's flashback is actually Aya's own dream world.

Also because I like crushing people's hope and dream ~

Spoiler:

Yeah, it's debatable because the way the story (last scene) telling it's like she really went back in time (which is why many people believe so) although logically it should be impossible

Did some searching at google but all are people opinion lol
ex: http://junkheadnayatura.blog24.fc2.c...ntry-1935.html and http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp...il/q1118760296 these two are the same believer as me while http://arison108.blog50.fc2.com/blog-entry-256.html this one saying it should be a happy end but he logically thinks like you zankoku-san
Anyway I'm a happy end believer guy so I'll still believe at miracle! XD

[Bakaizer]

can someone give me a brief explanation to this game? is this a VN with different routes?

[Natsurin]

Originally Posted by nikohowell

can someone give me a brief explanation to this game? is this a VN with different routes?

I don't really get what you're asking but...

Little Busters! follows a branching plot line with multiple endings, and depending on the decisions made during the common route, the plot will progress towards one of the heroine routes.

There is in total six character routes available at the start of the game:
Kamikita Komari, Natsume Rin1, Kurugaya Yuiko, Saigusa Haruka, Noumi Kudryavka & Nishizono Mio.

Once you finish a character route, you will not be able to play that route again due to the ultimate choice leading to that heroine's route being grayed out. (Rin1 and Komari are an exception to the rule)

The routes will unlock themselves and become playable again once you complete the final route, Refrain.
Once you finish each heroine route, Rin's second route will unlock itself and upon finishing it, will unlock Refrain.

It also has multiple mini-games, the main ones being the battles (evolving later on to the Battle Ranking), and the baseball practice, where you must control Riki to hit Rin's pitches to the other Little Busters' to build up a combo, and make their stats go up.

I really hope I didn't get anything wrong, but is that what you wanted to know?

[Bakaizer]

^ thanks man. this was the answer I was looking for

[pisceanreve]

Hello, I'm realy sorry if this has been answered, but can someone please explain Haruka's bad ending in the VN?
Specifically:

Spoiler for spoiler:

when you are talking to Kanata and you hear an ambulance. Does that mean she killed herself? And what does Kanata mean by "flower of blood blooming on the asphalt" or whatever she said?

Thanks!

[Rising Dragon]

Spoiler:

Sounds like a blood splatter to me, so it sounds to me like she jumped off the school building and hit the pavement.

[pisceanreve]

Thank you! wow that was really fast!
that's what I was thinking too

[Rising Dragon]

That's just the conclusion I came to based off of what you posted. I have no way of knowing if that's truly correct; it's just what it sounded like to me.

[pisceanreve]

oh, have you just seen the anime then? I actually haven't watched it because I heard it was bad XP
I guess I'll stick with that conclusion then XD

[Rising Dragon]

Originally Posted by pisceanreve

oh, have you just seen the anime then? I actually haven't watched it because I heard it was bad XP
I guess I'll stick with that conclusion then XD

The anime was fine. Don't listen to other people about it, just watch it and judge it for yourself.