2012-06-25, 17:35 | Link #1721 | |
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Anyway. Watching the episode now. ...Girls, why are you heading into that town? Have you forgotten that you're supposed to be hiding until your concert? Leaving the ship was bad enough, but heading into a population center? Are you nuts? Of course it works out, but it's still stupid. Hmm... Kirara definitely lit up a little when Nagisa was singing for the girls. Not much, but it was definitely a sign that she was on the right track. I'm glad to see it again. Kirara's been missing ever since it faded out due to Chieri's embarrassment two episodes ago. Oddly-shaped kirara showing up out of nowhere... Interesting tactic. Bleh to the soldiers. Really guys, shooting live ammo at 13-year-old girls is just not cool. Some of the kids gained hearts in their eyes. If they can keep themselves alive, there may be a hopeful future for them yet. In regards to comments on the poverty of the planet, I don't think we're supposed to think that the lack of entertainment is directly the cause of the people ending up living like that, but rather that the poverty is simply a symptom of a larger system that includes issues like the entertainment ban. Hmm... I don't know if that came out right. The lack of entertainment is just one of many ways the government is opressing these people, and it's the overall system of oppression that caused the poverty, not just the entertainment ban. Idols just get the most attention when they oppose the government, because they're flashy. They're designed to get attention. But I believe there is more to these oppressive governments than just being anti-entertainment. And Takamina keeps ignoring my advice. Pushing for her right to perform was good, but giving up near the end undoes all of that. I hope she gets a grip on herself after she recovers from her fever. You should not give up, Takamina! You showed you still have the spirit to stand up on that stage, that you still have the right to be there. And we saw again that Tsubasa respects audacity. Stand up to her, and tell her that what she is doing to both you and Kanata is wrong. The two of you deserve to stand together on that stage. Find a way. |
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2012-06-25, 17:45 | Link #1722 | ||
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What about this concert on Tundrastar? Again it seems to have provided a brief uplifting of spirits and recruited another young girl. Are those people suddenly going to throw off their oppressors, rise up, and create a new village of freedom? It doesn't seem very likely to me. If so, if this bleak theme really sits at the core of this story, I tip my hat to Okada-san. A theme like that upends the whole concept of idol worship and places AKB0048 squarely in the "circuses" category of the traditional "bread and circuses" approach to controlling the masses. It certainly fits best with the world depicted so far. The girls have small victories, but the forces of the DES and company are enormous and extend across the galaxy or wherever this takes place. The early Star Wars films, especially episode five, "The Empire Strikes Back," have an equally bleak outlook. The Empire is enormously powerful, and we are just a bunch of rebels in a few outclassed ships. The Rebel Alliance actually builds a military force, though; our young heroines so far work with the WOTA and aspiring young idols. The WOTA are effective, but I'm not sure they are ready to take on the Death Star. Quote:
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2012-06-25, 17:51 | Link #1723 | |
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Other than that, I enjoyed the episode a lot, although I'm getting a little tired of the Takamina-Kanata subplot. I hope they wrap this up soon and move on. EDIT: They were teaching this stuff in Nagisa's school so it's not only her opinion that things has changed. Maybe the animation staff didn't know how to properly convey this visually, but the writing hammered the issue pretty strongly to be just Nagisa's "distorted" views.
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2012-06-25, 18:00 | Link #1724 |
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Agree with what you said up there. AKB did help lessen the ban on entertainment so their efforts might contribute no matter how small. I think Chieri was just being her cynical self or either it's Okada's fault. But honestly since the part was so small, I totally didn't pick out. Like the other poster said...there's so many unrealistic situation going in this ep that really...it's just one line lol..... Anyway considering the cliff hanger...pretty sure they'll wrap it up the next ep. I'm hoping they'll start to work on the beginning of Nagisa/Chieri storyline and then leave a cliffhanger at ep 13, which will ensure us of 2nd season...and maybe that cliffhanger involve Acchan
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2012-06-25, 18:22 | Link #1725 |
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We're actually all getting trolled and Maeda is not going to appear until the final episode or something. This level of trolling would match the pedigree of the staff IMO.
I'm not sure about 0048 having no impact. The show does iterate that there is a strong push in the galaxy to repeal the ban. I think we're supposed to credit that to AKB. The previous planets they visited were supposed to be proof of their victories. But no idols = poverty!
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2012-06-25, 18:45 | Link #1726 | |
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Things get even more strange as we learn that Nagisa can make it glow, and of course Yuuko can too. So, why is this kirara so attached to Chieri who seemingly can't make it glow? Why not Nagisa, or Yuuko for that matter? The one thing I'm pretty sure of is that it's not a mistake. Kiraras can even look into one's soul, so there's no way the little critter would stay with Chieri by mistake. So it's kind of a mystery, and I hope it will be addressed at some point.
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2012-06-25, 18:45 | Link #1727 |
its Ghost Madoka time!!!
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those Tundrastar girls's who gained hearts on their eyes & possibly also their hair as they watched the concert, what does that suppose to mean? do the other AKB members also went through that process? or they had them naturally ever since they were born?
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2012-06-25, 18:50 | Link #1728 |
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Those marks seem to indicate a potential idol, so I suppose someone like Tomochin, who was born specifically to follow on Tomochin's footsteps would have it since they're born. But I think for most people it must be like what happened with that Russian loli. They see how amazing that world of AKB is and they dream to be part of it, hence the hearts appear.
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2012-06-25, 19:15 | Link #1730 | ||
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I'm spending a bit of time pondering about how much of an effect the girls were doing, and how long their hit-and-run form of guerilla warfare would last, and how much of a dent they could make on the colonies. But several decades of dodging the DGTO indicate that they have yet to make a Midway or Waterloo in the lengthy guerilla war for music -- perhaps when that "sleeping giant" that is QS wakes up from a long slumber? And I wonder if Nagisa would be the one to wake up that giant?
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2012-06-25, 19:39 | Link #1731 | |
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It could also be that through their music, at least a seed of hope was planted in their heart. About the matter of Chieri's Kirara...I'm pretty sure it's because she have a potential but at the same time she's missing something that stopping the Kirara from glowing.
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2012-06-25, 19:44 | Link #1732 |
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I would like if there was a strategy like AKB0048 game, where you would have to hold concerts and the like to sway planets to your side, recruit new kenkyuusei, raise them as idols, and manage then. Somehow I think it would be a pretty interesting concept.
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2012-06-25, 20:50 | Link #1733 | |
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well..the closest we got to that is this..
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2012-06-25, 22:58 | Link #1734 | |
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Also, the whole Dualium slave mining really shows what type of corporate dictatorship they run. The girls are lucky they are dealing with a corporate dictatorship and not some insane religous government who would rather see entire planets burn than to allow one idol escape.
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2012-06-25, 23:03 | Link #1735 |
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On a different note, something I found amusing. When the Russian lolis panic at being discovered, someone (I think it's Yuuka) says a phrase that can be translated as "We're not suspicious people" meaning people who arouse suspicion, not people who suspect someone of something. I find it funny, because it would be hard to find anyone more suspicious-looking in that whole village than our trainees. Firstly, almost none of them are wearing any headgear, and the one who is is clearly doing so for decoration rather than protection from the cold, while the people who belong there have hats and earmuffs, as is appropriate for the cold weather. Next, their technicolored hair stands out like a beacon among the drabness of that place. Also, their clothes are clearly some sort of uniform, compared to the more homely and individualized outfits of the citizens, and said uniforms are almost certainly much more expensive than anything anyone there is wearing.
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2012-06-25, 23:45 | Link #1737 | |
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Long story short, it doesn't seem like they need to have their mind all clear and stuff to make the kirara glow. Just a strong emotion is enough. So whatever is happening with Chieri, is not just about getting something she's missing, or letting go of her current mindset, or whatever. In fact, as she is now she should be able to make the kirara glow just fine... and yet, it seems she still can't do it. So either Okada hasn't put enough thought on this (and I'm overthinking) or there's something more about Chieri, although I still can't put my finger on what exactly it might be.
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2012-06-25, 23:58 | Link #1738 | |
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I think Chieri has still just been supressing her emotions, for the most part. Perhaps had DES not interrupted when the girls were singing for the lolis she might have made the kirara glow, but she didn't have the chance. While it does show up again when the four stars are singing together again at the end, it's hard to tell if it's brighter than normal or not. But then, they were singing a slow piece that's not so heavy on the overwhelming emotions that seem to set the things off. We just haven't gotten a good view of her when she's being an idol, while not supressing her emotions, and while the kirara is onscreen. |
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2012-06-26, 00:14 | Link #1739 | |
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I thought the same, but that's interesting too I think, as it feels like they're hiding something from us. Like they don't want us to see Chieri truly shining just yet for some reason.
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