(L) Dagashi Kashi

[MeoTwister5]

So... a family of candy selling chick magnets?

[s07195]

Originally Posted by bastek66

But that's wrong. They even forced her into pool part of episode since she didn't appear in manga's pool chapter. Director is biased as fuck. He skipped best chapters. Now I'm glad it's flopping for this false advertisement.

To be fair, the director's decision is kinda understandable considering anime only watchers would probably find it boring if if it was just Koko and Hota all the time. They can't carry 7 whole 24min episodes by themselves. You could argue then that they should have done shorter episodes, but then it would be as memorable and would give off the feel of a commercial.
They added Tou-kun into several unrelated chapters as well, you know. Such as the Butamen chapter and Yatta!Men chapter. So it's not just Saya. The four characters do play off each other well even when they weren't in the original chapter, so I'm personally fine with the adaptation so far. It probably helps that I like Saya and Tou-kun a lot.

The narrative they try to establish in each episode works sometimes, but other times it doesn't. Iirc the festival arc is the first long arc the series had, which made this episode flow better. However I wish they chose to cut out OP or ED in favor of animating Ch56, as that was also really important I feel to the overall narrative. That was the dampening effect for me on this episode.
However, I think they might add it into a later episode. If they adapt the summer school arc, Hotaru might say it there instead. That's my thought.

Originally Posted by DragoonKain3

Spoiler for snip:

People are complaining about the increase of Saya focus now, eight episodes in? I noticed the Saya focus since the very first episode as I didn't expect her to come onscreen till episode 2, and that's coming from someone who only read like 10 chapters. XD

As for the reason why they did it, I'm not surprised at all really. There's a reason why harem shows are a dime a dozen every cour, as they try to pack in as much girls in order to hit different moe elements as they can. If Dagashi Kashi had a third girl, she'd probably be already in the show with similar screentime. Heck, if the staff really had that much creative input into the show, they probably would have made up another girl character already in order to try to get more of an audience. (Look at Phantom World making up the loli character just because there wasn't a loli in the novel)

But cheer up, with Saya pretty much already having and episode all but dedicated to her, I predict that Hotaru will start running away with the show, ending with a spectacular climax pertaining to her. Saya having her episode at this point of the series pretty much has doomed her to be the 'second heroine'.

I don't categorize Dagashikashi as a harem show, but if it was just shoving moe they could choose to add more screentime to Saya without adding Tou-kun's screentime. (e.g. The part with Tou-kun saying he wanted to give something back in this episode is anime original.) I think they want to give all the characters more balanced screentime. Heck, Ep. 4 and 5 barely have Saya in it as it is.

...And 'second heroine'? Don't say that! As an osananajimi shipper, how can you give up hope here?! I ship Kokonotsu/Saya so we should be on the same team here, and with the manga still ongoing there's no conclusion yet!!

[Kunagisa]

I agree with bastek66.

I don't mind all the extras that Saya gets, that's not the issue. The issue is she is getting extra at the cost of removing Hotaru's character (yes character, not content). Festival arc is the ONLY "long" story in Dagashikashi (besides the recent one where they're trying to come up with a new product). Cutting out 56 leaves a very bad after taste for actual plot reasons.

I am never the guy that goes, "hurrr manga's better, fuck anime for not doing blah blah blah." I very much enjoyed the previous 6 episodes. People in the thread always complain Hotaru's just a plot device to introduce candies and she is literally eye candy herself, but she has subliminal and great characterization. 56 is one of those very important chapter that situates her in actual serious mode, even the side tagline enforces this idea within the chapter. When people are goofballs all the time, the moment they actually shift their countenance and demeanor is significant.

Either way, I still think chapter 56 will come back in another form later on in the series (definitely not the next episode given the title and the preview pictures). Maybe they consider it too important to dump it here instead of the final episode or something (but the contrast with Saya is lost forever).

I enjoyed the adaptation so far, I am frustrated by the turn of event, but still very much looking forward to future episodes.

If this goes downhill from here on, at least Ajin's moving past the movie and I can devote my time weekly to that instead

[s07195]

Originally Posted by Kunagisa

I agree with bastek66.
Festival arc is the ONLY "long" story in Dagashikashi (besides the recent one where they're trying to come up with a new product). Cutting out 56 leaves a very bad after taste for actual plot reasons.

That's the thing though... the festival arc is not the only long arc in the manga. And the other long arc is a perfect opportunity to reintroduce what Hotaru says in Ch56 as well.

[James Rye]

Originally Posted by MeoTwister5

So... a family of candy selling chick magnets?

Yeah, Tamai-chan was a shock. I thought the son would be a chick magnet but damn, it's in the genes!!!

Very adorable episode though, flashbacks to Kokonatsu and Saya being children is always daworthy. Saya-shi was so cute with how happy she was spending time just with her crush. <3

[Kunagisa]

Originally Posted by s07195

That's the thing though... the festival arc is not the only long arc in the manga.

Yes it is. Please don't mislead other people. 53-56 is the only arc in the story with the same chapter name (Summer Festival) + 1-4 after it. Even 80 to 81 is just 2 chapters thing.

[Shlugo]

Festival episode.

Hotaru actually won something? Amazing!

Man, the director must be a hardcore Sayia fan, they are really mangling the adaptation to give her more focus and screentime. At this point they might have run out of chapters where she shows up. I hope they at least go back to the chapters they skipped over, because those were some of the best ones.

[s07195]

Originally Posted by Kunagisa

Yes it is. Please don't mislead other people. 53-56 is the only arc in the story with the same chapter name (Summer Festival) + 1-4 after it. Even 80 to 81 is just 2 chapters thing.

Spoiler for My reply:

What do you call Chapters 72-75 then? It's all taking place in the same day, with 76 being the next morning.

EDIT:
And Hotaru is the main focus there, instead of Saya who was the main focus in the summer festival (since it's the first time we see Kokonotsu think of Saya in a romantic light.) They could easily move Hotaru's lines to the end of Ch75, then have Ch57 happen at the start of the next episode.

EDIT2: Please don't say I'm 'misleading' other people. It sounds too much like some kind of accusation, but I'll take the benefit of the doubt that you meant 'other people might misunderstand'.

[Master_Yoma]

Liking Saya in that yukata and You really know what Saya wants

[Yamada II]

Episode 7

So it's the summer festival and this is Hotaru's first one. Liked Hotaru's hairstyle there.

Poor Coconuts had to work the stall and Saya came to his rescue. You-san saw what Saya was getting at and set Coconuts free. Tou started helping out and unleashed his hidden powers lol.

Saya and Coconuts spent quite a lot of quality time together. And no one came to interrupt them – Hotaru was nowhere to be found and Tou was unleashing his hidden skills.

Lol that old guy and the boys' dirty minds.

[SeaDoor]

As an anime-only viewer, I really liked this episode. Nice, relaxed and really sweet just like really good candy.

[Kunagisa]

Originally Posted by s07195

What do you call Chapters 72-75 then? It's all taking place in the same day, with 76 being the next morning.

EDIT:
And Hotaru is the main focus there, instead of Saya who was the main focus in the summer festival (since it's the first time we see Kokonotsu think of Saya in a romantic light.) They could easily move Hotaru's lines to the end of Ch75, then have Ch57 happen at the start of the next episode.

EDIT2: Please don't say I'm 'misleading' other people. It sounds too much like some kind of accusation, but I'll take the benefit of the doubt that you meant 'other people might misunderstand'.

They all have different titles man. What part of 53-56 having the same title do you not understand? By extension are you going to claim everything happening throughout the summer being the same arc? Also, I am accusing you, you didn't misinterpret me.

They could've, would've, might've done many things different or will do things differently, but those all conditionals that have yet to happen, which means they might not happen at all. The only hard fact of the matter is the director showed bias by blatantly axing something just pander to people like you. I do not get why this is even debatable.

[bastek66]

Originally Posted by s07195

What do you call Chapters 72-75 then? It's all taking place in the same day, with 76 being the next morning.

These chapters were created after anime production started. Look, latest chapter is 85. 72 was thirteen weeks ago. There is no chance anime's scenario wasn't done at that point.

[Blueknight78]

well for me I don't mind they adding "original" or anime only episodes like making a full episode for saya, what i have problem is then skipping a lot of material or changing many chapters to make her or others characters appear just for fanservice while in some cases this can work in others cain not work and make the episode not so good as was in the manga.

To be fair i could be more fine if the director did the same as kyoto with phantom and made clear which the anime will be full "original anime only" because is much better and make more sense when you are going full original than keep doing a lot of changes/cut in order to pander a part of fanbase and pulling things which are supposed to be the "least" thing to be focused as primary or secondary, for exemple the ship and romance aspect if i had not read the manga before i could start to believe which this history have more romance that what was supposed to be since they are trying to focus on that part much more than it was supposed to be.

Well while the anime still fun, he really is failling to bring the same fun as the manga with all that changes i will keep watching because i still liking this serie and is one of my favorite comedy mangas but all the changes are hitting me really bad because i was expectating a really crazy and fun anime not a one trying to pander some fans.

Really this anime could be much better being a 7 to 12 minutes one than 24.

[Random Wanderer]

You know, people, talking about this stuff this openly in the anime thread makes it seem like you're trying to ruin the enjoyment of anime-only viewers.

[s07195]

Originally Posted by Kunagisa

Spoiler for 'People like you':

They all have different titles man. What part of 53-56 having the same title do you not understand? By extension are you going to claim everything happening throughout the summer being the same arc? Also, I am accusing you, you didn't misinterpret me.

They could've, would've, might've done many things different or will do things differently, but those all conditionals that have yet to happen, which means they might not happen at all. The only hard fact of the matter is the director showed bias by blatantly axing something just pander to people like you. I do not get why this is even debatable.

Spoiler for My reply:

1. Even 'people like me' were disappointed Ch56 was cut.
2. I come to forums to have friendly discussions. Getting accused is not fun nor friendly.
3. I pointed out that there were several chapters that all took place during the same day. Even if chapter titles are different, the content is definitely 'a story arc'.

Originally Posted by bastek66

Spoiler for snip:

These chapters were created after anime production started. Look, latest chapter is 85. 72 was thirteen weeks ago. There is no chance anime's scenario wasn't done at that point.

Fair enough point. We can only hope then. Anyways, I really just wanna enjoy this anime and want other people to enjoy the anime too, so this will be my last post on this matter. Sorry, Random Wanderer, and other anime-only viewers.

[TinyRedLeaf]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

You know, people, talking about this stuff this openly in the anime thread makes it seem like you're trying to ruin the enjoyment of anime-only viewers.

I agree, and that's why I've long decided to stay away from most of the anime discussion threads on this forum.

Originally Posted by s07195

Anyways, I really just wanna enjoy this anime and want other people to enjoy the anime too, so this will be my last post on this matter. Sorry, Random Wanderer, and other anime-only viewers.

I'd say the damage is already done, so pardon me if I don't care much for such apologies.

So, if source readers really, really need to vent, may I request that they do so in the more relevant manga threads.

As for the latest episode, I'd say that Saya's involvement is what makes the anime enjoyable for me. I'm not by any means hostile against Hotaru, and neither would I mind if she gets more air time later. But that's in the future.

For now, though, I simply enjoy what I get.

[Benigmatica]

Episode 7:
Seeing Saya Endou in a yukata and spending time with Kokonotsu is so cute!

Meanwhile, Hotaru won something... by being good in die-cutting. I'm glad for her!

[bastek66]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

You know, people, talking about this stuff this openly in the anime thread makes it seem like you're trying to ruin the enjoyment of anime-only viewers.

They ruined fun for manga readers by skipping best chapters, blantant favoritism and they are pulling false advertisement. I hope they burn.

[DXMichael]

Come onnnn Saya! Confess to him! Coconuts is obviously oblivious to your love for him