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View Poll Results: Mobile Suit Gundam 00 - Episode 07 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 50 | 35.97% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 37 | 26.62% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 24 | 17.27% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 14 | 10.07% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 7 | 5.04% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 0.72% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 0.72% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 0.72% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 1 | 0.72% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 3 | 2.16% | |
Voters: 139. You may not vote on this poll |
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2007-11-19, 00:06 | Link #201 |
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So another thing I realized...is it me or are they trying to set Marina up as a Relacus? Seriously, she looks like Relena with her hair dyed black, but dresses snazzy like Lacus, and meets Setsuna right around the same ep that Kira met Lacus.
Btw, I gave the ep a 9, because no gundam episode is ever complete without gundam vs. gundam
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2007-11-19, 00:14 | Link #202 | ||
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Anyways, Setsuna like it or not is the main character in the main Gundam...And the blue Gundam is like a bug-zapper because attracts all the fly guys...But I do feel you...I personally hope Graham can go after VIRTUE's a$$ at some point and show up that fashion wreck... Quote:
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2007-11-19, 00:34 | Link #204 | ||
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2007-11-19, 00:58 | Link #205 |
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Very good episode.. Glad to see some setsuna background. I am very glad and surprised at the same time of setsunas past. Kinda of a spinout but very different also.
Enjoyed the intro fight with Ali. Quick and skilled, Unfortuantly the grunts are slowly leaning towards seed/destiny way.. Getting owned too easily For those who beleives CB are bunch of terrorists who are damn evil, you may wanna watch seed/destiny again.. 2 seasons worth of terrorists activities there for ya. Difference is to me that CB are far more interesting than watching a full cast of emo kids with pixie dust crying out killing is bad.. ok ill stop the rant now This episode for me deserves a 9 for me.. had everythin i wanted to see. A good fight, some political mumbo jumbo as well as some character developments. Letting you know also someone else pointed out. Collateral damage is a problem when figting near or at a civilian populations. Unfortuantly it cant always be avoided. War is cruel and no matter how hard you try there will be civilian casualties in a populated hot zone. Now for those MS's that crashed into civilian buildings, many things could of happened. From being shot down from many miles away just to end up anvoidably crashing into civi buildings to mechanical failure after receiving some damage moments before it went down. Doesnt always apply that the MS's just had happend to be shot down where it stood. Youll find lots of military bases around he world do have civilian population nearby. There are lots of houses around the base where the enlisted men reside. Its very common on most western countries to see this. So in times of war there is a high chance that the civilians could be bombed due its close proximity near these bases. But thats enough of me talkin. Last edited by winter45; 2007-11-19 at 01:32. Reason: spelling errors |
2007-11-19, 01:07 | Link #206 |
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It is still the beginning, there is plenty of time for skill soldiers to come out to use grunt suits well. Probably the new suits will be sent out in such a massive way like the taurus in Wing. So until then, just wait for fight with graham or someone else.
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2007-11-19, 01:14 | Link #207 | |
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In what crazy world would those people be considered soldiers? No uniforms, no discipline, no code of conduct. Setsuna would have faced court marshal three times if he was in any sane military unit. They're not soldiers in any recognisable shape. Terrorists follow a chain of command but they're not soldiers and have to take responsibility for the horrors they do. But I guess it helps them sleeping at night. I'm through with thids argument, it ain't going nowhere. Be proud, you won an internet argument! |
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2007-11-19, 01:18 | Link #208 | |
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2007-11-19, 01:28 | Link #209 | |
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2007-11-19, 01:28 | Link #210 | |
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2007-11-19, 02:14 | Link #212 | |
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Fussion energy is supposed to be successful around 2050. What happened to that research? If this issue comes up (like Fussion is developed).... we might have another nation seceding from one of the Great Powers, causing a major war. More chaos will be fun. |
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2007-11-19, 02:20 | Link #213 |
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Why go for Setsuna? It's simple and real clear: Can Setsuna be any weaker? I mean he's gotten his face kicked in by anyone with a smigeon of skill. They are all in far weaker suit's and yet they can all see he's weak. He decimates his concentration himself, no effort required on the part of his opponent. A enemy like that is easy to expose, easy to manipulate and easy to crush. His piloting skills are sub-par, and if he wasn't in a Gundam he'd be dead. A Gundam will make anyone seem good, but when you just suck, you're going to eventually meet someone who has a skill advantage on you and you are going to die. Tierra should've shot him when he had the chance. That's strike two for Setsuna F. Seiei, and you're only as strong as your weakest link.
On a side note: This show is quickly becoming my favorite, that various strategies, ploys, and plots are all intertwined and in a believable way is interesting. Anyway, if Setsuna continues to be the exposed and vulnerable weakling you can expect everyone to aim for him, it's the smart thing to do. |
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2007-11-19, 02:22 | Link #215 | |
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Unless there's going to be a timeskip, she should still probably be touring/begging for aid. It can't just be one country. Besides, from the looks of things, she's not yet stepped onto the doors of those who 'really' hold influential power, even if just in AEU. Though frankly, if they're going to be meeting in a park (( that seems to be the only place Setsuna goes )) by accident while he's off-duty and she-sight seeing after/before doing her job, that's far more convenient and contrived anyway. Animes and their accidental meeting of fates, you learn to love them.
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2007-11-19, 02:33 | Link #216 | |
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BTW i never mentioned that I beleive that CB are terrorists Just pointing out this is my personal opinion. I apoligise i dont how to quote within a quote |
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2007-11-19, 03:18 | Link #217 | |
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Given that the 3 superpowers use their solar power to pretty much dictate their means, any threat to that power could cause enormous clashes around the war. Let's say that Korea (who does have a almost functional fusion test reactor atm) succeeded. Once that happens, HRA will probably attempt to destroy the project to retain their hegemony, while potential nationalists in Korea could use the power to start distrupting the powerlines so that they are untouchable. This alone is enough to get CB involved. If Korea manages to survive, then the entire world balance woudl be thrown off. Such poor nations as Azadistan would start to ally themselves with Korea, setting in place a force power that could destroy the tripolar political world, making warfare a more importan part of life. Once that happens, CB could be in a position where they would have to overstretch themselves. This is just a stab at how future energy source can be important in a energy-prone world such as Anno Domini. |
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2007-11-19, 04:26 | Link #218 |
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phew tons of stuff to talk about.
First, is Celestial Being not a "county" by some definition? I mean technically they have land on the L3 asteroid. Are they not simply a country like say North Korea where we simply don't integrate them into the world economy in the same way because they haven't agreed to play by the rules? Does this not make Azadistan nearly the same? Too small of a country to bother with, didn't contribute to the elevators. I guess the only thing that is different is that they are obviously on the maps... I also wanted to add to the whole "terrorist" debate a little. I think a much more useful way to think about it is, in a combat, is your enemy declared? Do you know who you are fighting. If you do, than you are de facto a step above many terrorists, who only "claim" to have done things. (I've always wondered how they "claim" to be responsible and people believe them). Also remember that laws are made by the strong, or those in power. Democracy was until recently quite an "evil" thing to do in China. I'll agree that perhaps by some specification that Celestial Being is less "allowed" to wage war in the traditional sense. But take a step back and look from this perspective. War brings about death, both of those fighting and of those simply caught in the cross fire. Now these machines of war that the three nations have... they have because they intend to use them. There is no nuclear fall out, or similarly self damaging effect caused by using the weapondry, so it's not the peace through strength (hidden craft in the elevator? serves no purpose other than to fight, it obviously isn't a deterrent if no one knows about it. So these three nations would have had battles, and wars etc remember the whole premise is that they're still fighting a zero sum game. So who is actually more in the right? Those who fight to stop war, or those who fight because they've got pride? It's clear that there isn't really an economic component, they've got "near unlimited" energy. Which means they've got near infinite economic output, unless they've started reaching the raw resource limits of the earth... which I highly doubt, they just probably reuse the stuff they've already mined. With infinite energy it doesn't matter if you need to go through some energy intensive process to strip out all the alloying agents in a metal to get raw materials again. So these nations are fighting simply because they want to maintain control, they want power, they want things to stay the same. Clearly nothing would be lost culture or economic wise if the countries all just agreed to have some form of representative democracy of the governments, and then each could rule as they please within their own country. I don't think the moral superiority is clearly in the hands of any party. To those that have qualms with the way the politics are playing out, why do you? Personally I thought they were well thought out. Opinion on the way CB's organization works. Veda is just the intelligence department. They make recommendations and give options and they have opinions. But Sumeragi is the one calling the shots, at least militarily as far as I can tell. Not sure where Wong et al all fit in yet. Or if there is another layer to the whole thing (like OMG fooled you gundams haha you're really evil evil[GSD anyone?])... but if we take it at face value, CB is a very small outfit, and hence they can afford to not have a true commander on the ground, especially when it appears that they've got ample real time intelligence on the goings on of the battleground. Sumeragi can make changes to the plan on the fly, and the 4 gundams can deal with the fight on the ground in the particular manner they see fit. Veda Plans, Sumeragi chooses, initiates and guides through, and the gundams do it. The girls are just tech support, that allow for data to flow back and forth from the field to Sumeragi... -O |
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I know, I was once in the same position. The GN Drive, which is also referred to as the "Solar Generator". |
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