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2010-02-07, 16:35 | Link #5942 |
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A leading economist said Britain should be seen in the same category as PIGS
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2010-02-07, 20:14 | Link #5943 | |
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sheesh From Toyota million-recall fiasco to bunch of welfare-draining shut-ins. I think Japan Inc... is declining. I see Koreans taking over where Japan used to traditionally dominate (electronic gadgets and automotive exports) It is also documented that Japan Inc. is BAD at managing crisis (at least by American standards) http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...s_Most_Popular |
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2010-02-07, 20:20 | Link #5944 | |
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sheesh From Toyota million-recall fiasco to bunch of welfare-draining shut-ins. I think Japan Inc... is declining. I see Koreans taking over where Japan used to dominate in exports (electronic gadgets and automotive.) It is also documented that Japan Inc. is BAD at managing crisis (at least by American standards) http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...s_Most_Popular Last edited by mg1942; 2010-02-07 at 20:39. |
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2010-02-07, 21:00 | Link #5945 |
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Actually, most of them *aren't* "welfare-draining" .... they're living with their parents. The japanese equivalent of "in the basement" 20-somethings that don't go out much.
Many are rebelling against the hyper-strict corporate business world and extreme expectations of success in a world where "doing the right things" often still means failure now because of events outside one's control.
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2010-02-07, 21:53 | Link #5947 |
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Not much of one... traditionally, you went to work for a business rather like you signed on with a feudal lord. It was a two-way loyalty street. When the corporations borrowed the idea from the US of "temp workers" and "layoffs" in the late '90s (offloading the excess labor pool management onto the government), the government was sleeping at the wheel and didn't put 'welfare/unemployment' systems in place.
Hence the escalation in frequency seen in the news reports of large numbers of people who are suddenly homeless or in-trouble in Japan (as well as the increase in 'societal dropout' hikikomori).
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2010-02-07, 22:24 | Link #5948 | |
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i was actually thinking of Japanese age 20+ who choose NEET lifestyle after high school. but still... if you're age 20+, NEET & hikky then you're a burden to the family... and to me they're like bunch of welfare recipients that i know and some who can 'game' the system in the state of California i bet those same hikks n' NEETs would love to have the same system in california so they can splurge on otaku-related merchandise... Last edited by mg1942; 2010-02-07 at 22:37. |
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2010-02-08, 01:17 | Link #5949 | |
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I think Obama has the right idea about the role of government in science and exploration. Obama is moving NASA on to Mars and unmanned exploration missions while leaving low earth orbit and exploitation of helium-3 on the moon to private industry. NASA has shown there is a rich supply of fuel on the moon to power the world for centuries. It's now up to private industry to step up to the plate. To all the old-timers who remember the oil boon: it's dejavu all over again! |
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2010-02-08, 01:44 | Link #5950 | ||
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as for private enterprise stepping up. are you joking? the amount of money and risk just isn't there in private sector. People are going to die building a base on the moon, is it a given. No private sector company is going to want the liability form something like that. And most importantly private don't engage in venture that does promise a immediately, they will not invest in something because it is good for the country or humanity. A moon base or refinry will not show any profit for a long time. There is absolutely no reason for private enterprise to built one. i always thought jfk was full of hot air but obama is proving to be a blimp. At least jfk manage to inspire people with his speeches: Quote:
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2010-02-08, 02:18 | Link #5951 | |
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2010-02-08, 03:38 | Link #5952 | |
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If you cut down NASA you will not be able to hold the people and their knowledge there. This will transfer knowhow elsewhere. The problem is, once they settled down somewhere else it is hard to get them back. Therefore this is equivalent to an expertise sellout. So once that process is completed, it will be hard to regain the expertise and knowhow that was there before (assuming the economy will be fixed by then). If you try to get those people back it will cost a lot more money later. On the long run such a business strategy is just stupid... provided that the economy crisis is only a short/medium term occurrence (maybe Obama/aides know whats really coming - well just a funny/ridiculous thought).
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2010-02-08, 05:06 | Link #5953 | |
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2010-02-08, 08:05 | Link #5956 | |
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It's too bad you couldn't split off NASA's research aspects like the Jet Propulsion Laboratory into some kind of a "charity" organization funded by a research trust instead of relying on the public funds. Those go away at whim. Which, unfortunately, is virtually dead on arrival these days...
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2010-02-08, 08:41 | Link #5958 | |
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First it was AT&T, and now Verizon blocks 4chan again... and getting backlash. Another good reason to pass Net Neutrality?
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2010-02-08, 10:39 | Link #5959 | |
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boards.4chan.org still available on Verizon FiOS, so I'd suggest we wait to see there is a technical explanation for the problems with VZ wireless before getting too agitated about ISP filtering.
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2010-02-08, 10:59 | Link #5960 |
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A good point. However, a powerplant in Connecticut will be far cheaper than a power plant on the moon. Unless Drax Corporation becomes a reality, I doubt any private firm has enough money to build anything on the moon. There are the transportation costs for materials and the cost of professional personell to worry about in addition to the actual infrastructure and maintenance of a powerplant, and the creation of a whole new sector in the labor market. I would also guess that employees wouldn't easily come back home on earth after working on the moon, so they would also need shelter, and the firm would have to provide housing for them. The list goes on but those are just a few things that will add on to the cost of such a massive project.
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