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Joojoobees · 2007-05-25, 21:03

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Scientists are growing flesh around computer parts to create cyborg moths, which can be controlled remotely

The Times Online has a very interesting article about cyborgs, although they are cyborg moths. The article is located at:

http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/...cle1831494.ece

Well, what do people think?

ibreatheanime · 2007-05-25, 21:57

That is pretty cool... However I am sure animal rights activists will get upset if they start using these "cyber moths" I am sure that someone will object to controlling insects with computer chips.

Joojoobees · 2007-05-25, 22:12

The article mentions that they have already driven rats with a joystick, so, I think you are right.

ibreatheanime · 2007-05-25, 22:48

People probally wont mind rats so much, because there is a deep hatred of rats in most places, however as soon as they start to control animals that are cuter people will get upset.

I think these cyber moths could be useful for gathering intellegence for warfare though, however they do put a literal meaning to "fly on the wall"

WanderingKnight · 2007-05-25, 23:55

Beh, still a long way to go till we get cyberbrains

Joojoobees · 2007-05-26, 00:27

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Originally Posted by ibreatheanime

People probally wont mind rats so much, because there is a deep hatred of rats in most places, however as soon as they start to control animals that are cuter people will get upset.

Given that there is such little difference between a bunny and a rat, they probably chose the rat for that reason. I'm sure they could do the exact same thing with a bunny, but people are more likely to pity a bunny than they would be to pity a rat that is wired to a joystick.

Shay · 2007-05-26, 00:47

Smart move to say "Moth" instead of "Butterfly." Avoided uproar with that one! lol

Aoie_Emesai · 2007-05-26, 00:59

Once we get some terminators, then i'll be happy. Till then, i'll wait and see our progress.

Lost · 2007-05-26, 11:50

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Originally Posted by Shay

Smart move to say "Moth" instead of "Butterfly." Avoided uproar with that one! lol

LOL. True.

My thoughts:

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one of the most ambitious robotics projects

Dubious. It is dubious to say that implanting a chip in a cocoon will allow one to take over the Moth's nervous system, to control it's nervous system. I think this is a timeless example of media-exaggeration, and notice too that more than half of the article wasn't about the Moths.

Xellos-_^ · 2007-05-26, 13:13

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Originally Posted by Aoie_Emesai

Once we get some terminators, then i'll be happy. Till then, i'll wait and see our progress.

WHo cares about termintors, I am counting on Japan for a Chi

Deathkillz · 2007-05-26, 13:56

robotic moths eh...that is a recipe for disaster...

tech guy: "after 10 billion dollars its finally done! the worlds first realistic robotic moth!"

random guy: "omg a bug!"

*squashes with fly swatter*

tech guy: "..."

ibreatheanime · 2007-05-26, 14:30

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Originally Posted by Deathkillz

robotic moths eh...that is a recipe for disaster...

tech guy: "after 10 billion dollars its finally done! the worlds first realistic robotic moth!"

random guy: "omg a bug!"

*squashes with fly swatter*

tech guy: "..."

good point! anyways, how much do they cost to make one of these? The article said something like they are relativly inexpensive to make...

Phantom-Takaya · 2007-05-26, 21:35

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Originally Posted by Xellos-_^

WHo cares about termintors, I am counting on Japan for a Chi

Chi's an android, not a cyborg...

And yeah, bug spray can literally put all that money down the toilet...

Joojoobees · 2007-05-27, 00:39

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Originally Posted by ibreatheanime

how much do they cost to make one of these?

It seems the production costs are relatively low, but who knows how much money was already spent on R&D?

It does seem like it would be effective, though. Although easy to kill, as pointed out above, it has the advantage of seeming innocuous. Someone could fly one into your house, and it could pretty much sit in some corner without your noticing it for a good while.

Now I don't know if the operator needs to feed it it keep it going. If so, that could complicate matters, since moving it around is prone to attract more attention.

Vexx · 2007-05-27, 02:14

I prefer the rat brain that was trained as an autopilot for a fighter jet simulation.

KNETTER2000 · 2007-05-27, 02:48

I see a whole new way of campdefense thought up by the insurgents to counteract the sneakiness of the cybertronic moth, after reading this interview..

Their own miniature autonomous defense.

Spoiler for weapon of moth destruction:

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2007-05-25, 21:57	Link #2
ibreatheanime Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: St. Louis MO	That is pretty cool... However I am sure animal rights activists will get upset if they start using these "cyber moths" I am sure that someone will object to controlling insects with computer chips.

2007-05-25, 22:12	Link #3
Joojoobees Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: USA	The article mentions that they have already driven rats with a joystick, so, I think you are right.

2007-05-25, 22:48	Link #4
ibreatheanime Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: St. Louis MO	People probally wont mind rats so much, because there is a deep hatred of rats in most places, however as soon as they start to control animals that are cuter people will get upset. I think these cyber moths could be useful for gathering intellegence for warfare though, however they do put a literal meaning to "fly on the wall"

2007-05-27, 02:48	Link #16
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