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Westlo · 2011-08-04, 06:39

They had no choice but to combine 3 series into one since otherwise they would never had got Robotech on tv since it didn't have enough episodes. I really don't mind Robotech since if I didn't see it as a kid I doubt I would've been an anime fan.. and I'm sure I'm not the only one that would apply too.. though I found it pretty funny I always thought the second and third parts were crap when I was 7-9 and than found out they were completely different series when I was older and watching NGE and stuff.

I'm more annoyed @ Harmony Gold for what they've done since Robotech.... trying to argue that Macross is their property or some bullshit, fuck outta here. Sucks we'll never see Frontier licensed due to this bullcrap.

Falcor · 2011-08-04, 07:26

Spoiler for Beginning to get a bit OT:

Macross deserves to stand apart from robotech - if only harmony gold could be convinced to release their strangle-hold. I understand this was their attempt to support the anime industry in the USA, but the time for such measures is long past. All they are doing now is standing in the way, forcing people to find alternative methods to acquire newer Macross-based products. Atleast those of us who aren't fluent in Japanese....

karice67 · 2011-08-04, 08:47

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Originally Posted by Yot-chan

I sang in English, but it's the same tune as the original.

LOL. Did they think you'd made up the English lyrics?

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Live action Macross? urk...I hope they NEVER do that...

sa547 · 2011-08-04, 11:34

Offtopic/soapbox: Let's get to one thing before we move on: all the "squatter" does is nothing but to sue (even after the death of their vociferous champion and self-proclaimed "legend", who while alive repeatedly derided the original creators), but then as time passes by consumer interest in their products would decline, leading to possible filing of bankruptcy; furthermore with the stigma associated with them for causing the worst schism in fan history, no one will try to associate with them, ever.

The truth's already out, and should they try to do yet another profit-making stunt, it's bound to fail like a Uwe Boll, and they'll be the laughingstock and might have to file for Chapter 11.

So should a live-action version be made, let's leave it to Kawamori and company in Japan to pull it off, and maybe along with Weta to beef it up to supergrade spec.

Ontopic: This year, Sheryl, Ranka and Klan are in Saimoe, and right now the Galactic Fairy is in the... lesee...

Damn.

http://saimoe.wordpress.com/2011/08/...ill/#more-2133

Sheryl got bumped to 6th place (and earlier I made a mental bet on her; all other girls were unfamiliar to me); Feris (Stein's Gate) is on top at the moment.

But this is the prelims (Group 1/Second Prelim Round), they say.

All right, Ranka's in the 2nd group for the 2nd prelims; as expected she has a lot of competition (including a Madoka Magica boss enemy).

You go, girl, and better get a full loadout. Good luck.

Tak · 2011-08-04, 12:13

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Originally Posted by sa547

Offtopic/soapbox: Let's get to one thing before we move on: all the "squatter" does is nothing but to sue (even after the death of their vociferous champion and self-proclaimed "legend", who while alive repeatedly derided the original creators), but then as time passes by consumer interest in their products would decline, leading to possible filing of bankruptcy; furthermore with the stigma associated with them for causing the worst schism in fan history, no one will try to associate with them, ever.

The truth is, Kawamori & co. could challenge Harmony Gold based the decision reached by Japanese courts several years ago, where it was ruled that Kawamori & co. owned the rights to the designs of the original Macross (allowing them to create sequels based on those) while Tatsunoko (and by extension, Harmony Gold) owns the rights to the distribution of the first series, only. Eventually, I believe a serious challenge to HG would come to fruition, especially after the overwhelming success of Macross Frontier.

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Originally Posted by sa547

So should a live-action version be made, let's leave it to Kawamori and company in Japan to pull it off, and maybe along with Weta to beef it up to supergrade spec.

Lets not. I do not wish to see the spirit of a series destroyed. Japanese studios aren't much better at converting anime to live-action. While Yamato was definitely entertaining, it failed to correspond with the spirit of the original.

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Originally Posted by sa547

Ontopic: This year, Sheryl, Ranka and Klan are in Saimoe, and right now the Galactic Fairy is in the... lesee...

Sheryl in Saimoe never made much sense to me. I... cannot really think of anything too moe about her. Hell, Alto is more moe than her!

- Tak

sa547 · 2011-08-04, 12:25

Unfortunately, we only have Hollywood to blame for instigating the trend of adapting as much properties as possible to the big screen, no matter how mediocre, along with the 3D hype; it's bound to continue.

As for the Saimoe thing... Actually, and contrary to my earlier disappointment, Sheryl has now advanced further than in the first round.

(I got quite interested in this little game after hearing about it from Madoka fans, and out of curiosity I decided to see for myself just how big is this thing is in scope and, not surprisingly, how seriously the Saimoe competition is taken by fans as if it's cockfighting; I look at it just for fun, however, and besides a competitor doesn't have to look too cute or sweet to enter the competition; even a MILF character can join.)

Tak · 2011-08-04, 13:17

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Originally Posted by sa547

Unfortunately, we only have Hollywood to blame for instigating the trend of adapting as much properties as possible to the big screen, no matter how mediocre, along with the 3D hype; it's bound to continue.

Yet, movie studios (Japan & Hollywood) sometimes produce efforts that I applaud them for. Sure, their final product may be peculiar at best, but I find their efforts often worth complimenting.

Couple years ago, I saw the live-action version of Sakigake!! Otokojuku 魁!!男塾. For people who don't know what that is, it was a very (in)famous manga published in the mid 80s to the early 90s involving unbelievably over-the-top situations. The final product wasn't superb, but it was faithful (or as faithful as it could get), and worthy of a Saturday night popcorn session.

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Originally Posted by karice67

Live action Macross? urk...I hope they NEVER do that...

While I have a very slight interest in seeing a live-action conversion of Macross, most of myself is afraid of the end-product. Moreover, sometimes these live-action conversions end in 1 movie, leaving no room for continuity. Take the recent Yamato, for example...

- Tak

magnuskn · 2011-08-05, 04:29

Hey, you know how long I've waited for BattleTech: The Movie? ^^

The problem with a Hollywood Macross adaptation is that it would be a RoboTech adaptation, and Harmony Gold don't deserve the accolades which should be rightly due to Kawamori & Co.

Westlo · 2011-08-05, 05:26

In frontiers first year Sheryl made Top 32 (or maybe 16) in the Korean Best Moe which has a fuckload more voters than Saimoe. Really it's just a popularity contest as well as certain factions combining to knock out threats that can beat their character.

Lancel · 2011-08-06, 09:59

I've been waiting for a Battletech movie forever too.

If I made the live-action Macross, I'd do it in two movies, faithful as the Pope to the original, and I would call it Macross. Not freaking Robotech.

Only trouble is I have a feeling Harmony Gold would rear its ugly head and cram the Robotech version down our throats and the Hollywood studio would go "Oh hay, perfect, now we can make the lead an American."

Tak · 2011-08-13, 01:09

So this may be uber late, but since it wasn't posted here... Anyway, Maaya Sakamoto just got married couple days ago. She of course, was the singer behind Triangular, and the voice of Ranshe Mai.

http://www.jvcmusic.co.jp/flyingdog/-/Information/A008957.html#news

Her new husband is...

Kenichi Suzumura. We know him from Macross Zero as Shin Kudo and Gundam SEED DESTINY as Shinn Asuka.

So at the end, Lunamaria and Shinn were married... oh boy.

- Tak

Westlo · 2011-08-13, 01:21

I prefer to think of it as Shiki and Mikiya! Kara no Kyoukai > GSD.....

raile · 2011-08-13, 02:05

LOL Shinn/Lunamaria will NEVER make sense to me. XD

But kudos to the seiyuu couple!

Westlo · 2011-08-13, 02:55

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Originally Posted by raile

LOL Shinn/Lunamaria will NEVER make sense to me. XD

What doesn't make sense about Lunamaria coming onto the person who killed her sister, and the guy she was trying to sleep with for the first half of the series?

Tak · 2011-08-13, 10:01

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Originally Posted by Westlo

What doesn't make sense about Lunamaria coming onto the person who killed her sister, and the guy she was trying to sleep with for the first half of the series?

But Lunamaria's sister was never killed... she eloped with Atty.

- Tak

raile · 2011-08-13, 10:05

More like went with Athrun to betray ZAFT for no damn clear reason. XD

...And to think Athrun never saw her in that way to boot.

I really liked Suzumura as Shin...Macross Zero Shin, not GSD Shinn.

Tak · 2011-08-13, 10:23

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Originally Posted by raile

I really liked Suzumura as Shin...Macross Zero Shin, not GSD Shinn.

Oh definitely, I respect Suzumura's Shin in ZERO. He had a goal, and he attained it even if it meant death.

- Tak

wisteria233 · 2011-08-13, 12:08

The less that should be said on GSD and its horrible Hawke sisters the better (seriously one decides to go out with the guy who "killed" her sister, right after he did it, and the other betrays her country for a guy she barely knows).

But back on topic congratulations to Maaya Sakamoto I hope she has a happy life.

Natsuki Hyuga · 2011-08-13, 12:41

Mu, I didn't think someone is going to post about Maaya-chan's marriage to SuzuKen here. Congratulations to Maaya-chan and SuzuKen!

And of course, the only reason I know of this beforehand was because I am a dork to SuzuKen. *whistles@stalkingnet*

What is this GSD shite? I prefer to think it's AerithxZack than LunamariaxShinn. Stuff it, it's my second beloved pairing ever in FF7!

Tak · 2011-08-13, 14:04

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Originally Posted by Natsuki Hyuga

Mu, I didn't think someone is going to post about Maaya-chan's marriage to SuzuKen here. Congratulations to Maaya-chan and SuzuKen!

Well, I used to like Sakamoto.

Then she proved to have quite an attitude...

- Tak

2011-08-04, 07:26	Link #2482
Falcor Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Lurking in a forum near you Age: 42	Spoiler for Beginning to get a bit OT: @Westlo I know harmony gold's lame reasoning behind mish-mashing these series together. With minimal effort on their part, they could have retained the unique characteristics of each series, making them an "action pack" with similar but distinctly different plot lines. This would give them their precious episode count while requiring no re-writing of the original stories - plural. Terrible dub job aside, it was their shoddy attempt to combine three unique stories into one that I find inexcusable. Macross deserves to stand apart from robotech - if only harmony gold could be convinced to release their strangle-hold. I understand this was their attempt to support the anime industry in the USA, but the time for such measures is long past. All they are doing now is standing in the way, forcing people to find alternative methods to acquire newer Macross-based products. Atleast those of us who aren't fluent in Japanese....

2011-08-04, 11:34	Link #2484
sa547 Senior Member Author Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Philippines Age: 47	Offtopic/soapbox: Let's get to one thing before we move on: all the "squatter" does is nothing but to sue (even after the death of their vociferous champion and self-proclaimed "legend", who while alive repeatedly derided the original creators), but then as time passes by consumer interest in their products would decline, leading to possible filing of bankruptcy; furthermore with the stigma associated with them for causing the worst schism in fan history, no one will try to associate with them, ever. The truth's already out, and should they try to do yet another profit-making stunt, it's bound to fail like a Uwe Boll, and they'll be the laughingstock and might have to file for Chapter 11. So should a live-action version be made, let's leave it to Kawamori and company in Japan to pull it off, and maybe along with Weta to beef it up to supergrade spec. Ontopic: This year, Sheryl, Ranka and Klan are in Saimoe, and right now the Galactic Fairy is in the... lesee... Damn. http://saimoe.wordpress.com/2011/08/...ill/#more-2133 Sheryl got bumped to 6th place (and earlier I made a mental bet on her; all other girls were unfamiliar to me); Feris (Stein's Gate) is on top at the moment. But this is the prelims (Group 1/Second Prelim Round), they say. All right, Ranka's in the 2nd group for the 2nd prelims; as expected she has a lot of competition (including a Madoka Magica boss enemy). You go, girl, and better get a full loadout. Good luck. __________________

2011-08-04, 12:25	Link #2486
sa547 Senior Member Author Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Philippines Age: 47	Unfortunately, we only have Hollywood to blame for instigating the trend of adapting as much properties as possible to the big screen, no matter how mediocre, along with the 3D hype; it's bound to continue. As for the Saimoe thing... Actually, and contrary to my earlier disappointment, Sheryl has now advanced further than in the first round. (I got quite interested in this little game after hearing about it from Madoka fans, and out of curiosity I decided to see for myself just how big is this thing is in scope and, not surprisingly, how seriously the Saimoe competition is taken by fans as if it's cockfighting; I look at it just for fun, however, and besides a competitor doesn't have to look too cute or sweet to enter the competition; even a MILF character can join.) __________________

2011-08-05, 04:29	Link #2488
magnuskn Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hamburg, Germany Age: 48	Hey, you know how long I've waited for BattleTech: The Movie? ^^ The problem with a Hollywood Macross adaptation is that it would be a RoboTech adaptation, and Harmony Gold don't deserve the accolades which should be rightly due to Kawamori & Co. __________________

2011-08-13, 01:09	Link #2491
Tak Catholic = Cat addiction? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: MURICA!!	So this may be uber late, but since it wasn't posted here... Anyway, Maaya Sakamoto just got married couple days ago. She of course, was the singer behind Triangular, and the voice of Ranshe Mai. http://www.jvcmusic.co.jp/flyingdog/-/Information/A008957.html#news Her new husband is... Kenichi Suzumura. We know him from Macross Zero as Shin Kudo and Gundam SEED DESTINY as Shinn Asuka. So at the end, Lunamaria and Shinn were married... oh boy. - Tak __________________ BLESSED IS OUR GOD, THE LORD OF MIRACLES, FOR HE HAS SUPPLIED AN ENTIRE BATTALION WITH JUST FIVE ROUNDS OF AMMO AND TWO GRENADES!! Remember, the toes you step on today may be connected to the @ss you have to kiss tomorrow.

2011-08-04, 06:39	Link #2481
Westlo Lets be reality Join Date: May 2007	They had no choice but to combine 3 series into one since otherwise they would never had got Robotech on tv since it didn't have enough episodes. I really don't mind Robotech since if I didn't see it as a kid I doubt I would've been an anime fan.. and I'm sure I'm not the only one that would apply too.. though I found it pretty funny I always thought the second and third parts were crap when I was 7-9 and than found out they were completely different series when I was older and watching NGE and stuff. I'm more annoyed @ Harmony Gold for what they've done since Robotech.... trying to argue that Macross is their property or some bullshit, fuck outta here. Sucks we'll never see Frontier licensed due to this bullcrap.

2011-08-05, 05:26	Link #2489
Westlo Lets be reality Join Date: May 2007	In frontiers first year Sheryl made Top 32 (or maybe 16) in the Korean Best Moe which has a fuckload more voters than Saimoe. Really it's just a popularity contest as well as certain factions combining to knock out threats that can beat their character.

2011-08-06, 09:59	Link #2490
Lancel Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010	I've been waiting for a Battletech movie forever too. If I made the live-action Macross, I'd do it in two movies, faithful as the Pope to the original, and I would call it Macross. Not freaking Robotech. Only trouble is I have a feeling Harmony Gold would rear its ugly head and cram the Robotech version down our throats and the Hollywood studio would go "Oh hay, perfect, now we can make the lead an American."

2011-08-13, 01:21	Link #2492
Westlo Lets be reality Join Date: May 2007	I prefer to think of it as Shiki and Mikiya! Kara no Kyoukai > GSD.....

2011-08-13, 02:05	Link #2493
raile Retired Toaster Author Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Heck	LOL Shinn/Lunamaria will NEVER make sense to me. XD But kudos to the seiyuu couple! __________________

2011-08-13, 10:05	Link #2496
raile Retired Toaster Author Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Heck	More like went with Athrun to betray ZAFT for no damn clear reason. XD ...And to think Athrun never saw her in that way to boot. I really liked Suzumura as Shin...Macross Zero Shin, not GSD Shinn. __________________

2011-08-13, 12:08	Link #2498
wisteria233 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New York, NY	The less that should be said on GSD and its horrible Hawke sisters the better (seriously one decides to go out with the guy who "killed" her sister, right after he did it, and the other betrays her country for a guy she barely knows). But back on topic congratulations to Maaya Sakamoto I hope she has a happy life.