Code Geass - Spoilers & Speculation (ver 2 old)

[geewhiz]

Originally Posted by thedonkiluminati

Bite your tongue. They have no business dragging this out any further.

Plus a Lelouch-Suzaku friendship renewal's off the table.

[thedonkiluminati]

Originally Posted by geewhiz

Plus a Lelouch-Suzaku friendship renewal's off the table.

I got into Code Geass because I saw that standoff at the end of season one in an amv. I'd really pissed if they became friends again.

[LastOrder]

Originally Posted by geewhiz

Plus a Lelouch-Suzaku friendship renewal's off the table.

There probably will be a friendship renewal. Until the very last episode probably, and it will probably be Nunally convincing them, and making them see that they can be friends again. But, probably until the very end of the series. >_>

[geewhiz]

Originally Posted by LastOrder

There probably will be a friendship renewal. Until the very last episode probably, and it will probably be Nunally convincing them, and making them see that they can be friends again. But, probably until the very end of the series. >_>

Love is power. For whatever reason, Lelouch is responsible for obliterating Suzaku's love. Lelouch has a number of different relationships with women in CG, but none amounts to the bond shared b/w Suzaku and Euphie. Forget any chance of reconciliation.

[Jestersage]

Oh, also Sakuradite, in the history of old is known as philosopher stone, which can bring abut immortality and wealth... What if geass + sakuradaite = imortality?

[Aquaman OS]

If they don't renew their friendship then Shirley died for nothing. No happy end if they keep feuding and wind up killing each other. Lelouch now perfectly understands Suzaku's pain. For Shirley and Euphie's sake they need to make up, if only so they can rest in peace.

[Orga777]

Originally Posted by geewhiz

Love is power. For whatever reason, Lelouch is responsible for obliterating Suzaku's love. Lelouch has a number of different relationships with women in CG, but none amounts to the bond shared b/w Suzaku and Euphie. Forget any chance of reconciliation.

It has already been hinted at that there will be some sort of reconciliation. Don't throw it out yet.

[geewhiz]

Originally Posted by Jestersage

Oh, also Sakuradite, in the history of old is known as philosopher stone, which can bring abut immortality and wealth... What if geass + sakuradaite = imortality?

I hadn't heard this. Your source?

Originally Posted by Aquaman OS

If they don't renew their friendship then Shirley died for nothing. No happy end if they keep feuding and wind up killing each other. Lelouch now perfectly understands Suzaku's pain. For Shirley and Euphie's sake they need to make up, if only so they can rest in peace.

As I said those relationships were different. Why does Shirley's death have to be a catalyst for reconciliation? How do you suppose the staff writers might have thought this way?

Originally Posted by Orga777

It has already been hinted at that there will be some sort of reconciliation. Don't throw it out yet.

Not that I'm eager to, but those are the signs I see. What hints have you seen that indicate a possible reconciling?

[Orga777]

Originally Posted by geewhiz

Not that I'm eager to, but those are the signs I see. What hints have you seen that indicate a possible reconciling?

Well, first off Suzaku wants to talk to Lelouch to find out what REALLY happened in that Euphie incident and of course you have Shirley pretty much telling him to learn to forgive. Remember, Shirley lost some one just as important as Suzaku has to Lelouch. If she can forgive him, Suzaku can too. That is pretty much what she was saying. Come on now... It was pretty much set up in the entire episode.

[geewhiz]

Originally Posted by Orga777

Well, first off Suzaku wants to talk to Lelouch to find out what REALLY happened in that Euphie incident and of course you have Shirley pretty much telling him to learn to forgive. Remember, Shirley lost some one just as important as Suzaku has to Lelouch. If she can forgive him, Suzaku can too. That is pretty much what she was saying. Come on now... It was pretty much set up in the entire episode.

For all of this to be true, Suzaku would have to assume all else being equal and all grudges aside, Lelouch had neither the opportunity nor the MO to do in Shirley. He may get the MO part correct, but even to him any knowledge of Lelouch's presence of the scene of the crime will immediately raise his alarm bells.

[zalem]

Originally Posted by geewhiz

Love is power. For whatever reason, Lelouch is responsible for obliterating Suzaku's love. Lelouch has a number of different relationships with women in CG, but none amounts to the bond shared b/w Suzaku and Euphie. Forget any chance of reconciliation.

I don't know....from Shirley's speech with Suzaku about forgiveness and her own final forgiveness of Lelouch, I think there is a strong hinting that reconciliation will happen. I used to think it wasn't possible at all, but I get the feeling by the end there will be reconciliation. Of course, someone will probably still end up dead...

I remember it being stated that there would be a change in the relationship between Lelouch and Suzaku occurring soon. Does anyone remember whether that was a spoiler or just random speculation?

[hanseo]

but i want lelouch and suzaku to keep fightning each other

[geewhiz]

Originally Posted by hanseo

but i want lelouch and suzaku to keep fightning each other

I get the impression Euphie's death was a brick wall that can never be cracked, an open wound that can never be healed. Don't I hope I'm wrong? Absolutely. But I'll leave it up to the writers to do that....

[LastOrder]

Originally Posted by geewhiz

For all of this to be true, Suzaku would have to assume all else being equal and all grudges aside, Lelouch had neither the opportunity nor the MO to do in Shirley. He may get the MO part correct, but even to him any knowledge of Lelouch's presence of the scene of the crime will immediately raise his alarm bells.

That may be true, but that doesn't mean they won't be friend's again, besides, in the spoilers Suzaku and Lelouch finally get some alone time to talk things out.

But like I said, they won't be friends until the very end of the series, like possibly the last two episodes or so.

[yezhanquan]

Originally Posted by hanseo

but i want lelouch and suzaku to keep fightning each other

Most probably, they will. Pride and Prejudice.

[Aquaman OS]

Well too bad. I don't see Suzaku supporting Armageddon. Even if they don't become friends again they'll at least stop fighting each other to fight whoever those new villians are even if they work seperately.

It's bigger than the Lelouch vs Britannia now. And Lelouch can't destroy Britannia anyway without causing massive problems so it was inevitiable that a third force would show up.

[geewhiz]

Originally Posted by LastOrder

besides, in the spoilers Suzaku and Lelouch finally get some alone time to talk things out.

All we know is they're in the same place at the same time with the intention of confronting one another. What occurs there we can only speculate on. Maybe they'll make up. Maybe they'll duke it out. Maybe they'll quietly agree to go their separate ways.

[zalem]

If they make up I doubt it'll be during this so-called confrontation in episode 17 (was it 17? I forget). It'll happen much later like Last Order said. Though maybe the confrontation will be a stepping stone in that direction.

[geewhiz]

Originally Posted by zalem

If they make up I doubt it'll be during this so-called confrontation in episode 17 (was it 17? I forget). It'll happen much later like Last Order said. Though maybe the confrontation will be a stepping stone in that direction.

Something yowza-big's gonna hafta happen for a successful reconciliation!

[seiji_kun]

If they make up, this turns out to be a fag show. So they ain't gonna give us what the majority wants? Suzaku dieing, preferably a painfull one. They can cutdown on the fanservice for all that I care but they can't keep Suzaku alive. I've been looking forward to this for more then a year :/.