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Old 2022-06-13, 02:21   Link #4061
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the drama CD can't be set after Rio became transcendental, his appearance in the cover is the one he had before he became transcendental, (black hair, yellow eyes) though he could change his hair color from white to black with his magic instrument, there is no magical device known to change his eye color from red to yellow, and even if such a device existed, he would not have a logical reason to hide his true appearance, before he hid his black hair so as not to be recognized as Rio, now he no longer has the need to hide his normal hair color, his hair natural color is white, why would he risk being recognized by wearing fake hair color? Doesn't make sense
Rio doesn't need any magic tools for changing his appaearance completely. It seems you forgot about it, but in the fourht arc of the WN there was a chapter where Rio changed completely his appaerance using just his transformation spirit arts, the technique he, Latifa, Sara, Ouphia and Alma enchanted their necklaces with. In that chapter Rio changed his heigth, face, hair color body-build... basically everything and used that fake identity for visting a information dealer and buy information about Lucius. This chapter also explained that the tranformation spirit arts were the thing Rio enchanted his necklace with for changing his hair color, and that he used a necklace for keeping the technique active all of the time because the level of focus needed for that was too hight and would have been impossible to use during combat otherwise.

About Rio's appearnce on the cover, if you take another look you would realize that it isn't the current Rio but the child Rio, the one from volume 1.

Lastly, about Rio not needing to risk showing his real apperance in public. Who said that Rio would use that appearance in public? It is obvious that it is a thing just for the cd's events while he is just with the girls.
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Old 2022-06-14, 12:28   Link #4062
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Rio: There is chance that it may be complicated to use it normally. Is it fine if I research it a little here?
Flora: Of course.
Rio: Then I will borrow it.
Sayo *(I think): There are magic tools that are hard to use right?
Miharu:Um. It seems that there are a lot that won’t activate just pouring magic power in. They need magic power control… or affinity…
Aisia: There is the type that needs a spell. There are also those that can’t be activated without the technique’s kairyoku.*(Sorry, I don’t know this word’s meaning)
Sayo: It seems quite complicated. Right?
Rio:It would be fine if a spell word isn’t needed but…Oh.
Celia*(I think): The magic formation appeared!! Incredible!!
Rio: As expected, The magic power control is pretty complicated. The magic formation that appeared is quite intricate.
Rio’s mind: ( If the flow of magic power is so intricate, it shouldn’t be apt for being used as a spirit art.
Miharu: Is this having any effect?
Rio: No it isn’t. It is a step away from activating while turning on the magic formation. It feels that a spell is unneeded but…
Aisia: Even if you are just turning in the magic formation is using quite a lot of magic power.
Rio: Right? Let’s stop for the time being.
Miharu: Eh? But the light seems like it is getting stronger again.
Rio: Impossible. The magic tool is… by itself…
Heaven’s voice: It came, It came, It came, it cameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee…
Rio: This isn’t the mansion. Where is this? Everyone… ah… this… ah, ah, aaaaaaaaaaaaah…
Rio’s mind: What? My voice is… eh?... everyone’s appearance… they turned into children.
The gilrs: Aaaaaaaaaaah…
Flora: Ri!
Everyone: Ri?
Flora: Rio-sama!! Is Rio-sama!!
Rio: Etto… Flora-sama?
Flora: Yes, Rio sama!!
Rio: Well…It is fine because Miharu-san and Sayo-san already know, but that way of calling is…
Flora: Ah!! I’m so-sorry. Because Haruto-sama has the same appearance that in his childhood and the hair color went back to black too. I was happy because it looked like we went back to the academy era and…
Rio: I turned into a child too? Then that’s why my voice is..
Rio’s mind: Is this the effect of the magic tool? We were teleported into a while space and our ages regressed? But I never heard of something like a magic that can regress one’s age. it is also strange that our clothes’ size changed just like our bodies’. The spatial magic aside is this using some kind of mental illusion for transforming us? By the way, I feel like I heard a strange voice before coming here…
The girls: Aaaaaaaah.
Rio: Everyone, just before coming here I… Um? Is something happening?
The girls: Cu-cuteeeeeee.
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Old 2022-06-14, 12:40   Link #4063
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Oh. I thought only Haruto turned to Shota but it looks like everyone became Chibi.
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Old 2022-06-15, 01:47   Link #4064
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Rio: There is chance that it may be complicated to use it normally. Is it fine if I research it a little here?
Flora: Of course.
Rio: Then I will borrow it.
Sayo *(I think): There are magic tools that are hard to use right?
Miharu:Um. It seems that there are a lot that won’t activate just pouring magic power in. They need magic power control… or affinity…
Aisia: There is the type that needs a spell. There are also those that can’t be activated without the technique’s kairyoku.*(Sorry, I don’t know this word’s meaning)
Sayo: It seems quite complicated. Right?
Rio:It would be fine if a spell word isn’t needed but…Oh.
Celia*(I think): The magic formation appeared!! Incredible!!
Rio: As expected, The magic power control is pretty complicated. The magic formation that appeared is quite intricate.
Rio’s mind: ( If the flow of magic power is so intricate, it shouldn’t be apt for being used as a spirit art.
Miharu: Is this having any effect?
Rio: No it isn’t. It is a step away from activating while turning on the magic formation. It feels that a spell is unneeded but…
Aisia: Even if you are just turning in the magic formation is using quite a lot of magic power.
Rio: Right? Let’s stop for the time being.
Miharu: Eh? But the light seems like it is getting stronger again.
Rio: Impossible. The magic tool is… by itself…
Heaven’s voice: It came, It came, It came, it cameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee…
Rio: This isn’t the mansion. Where is this? Everyone… ah… this… ah, ah, aaaaaaaaaaaaah…
Rio’s mind: What? My voice is… eh?... everyone’s appearance… they turned into children.
The gilrs: Aaaaaaaaaaah…
Flora: Ri!
Everyone: Ri?
Flora: Rio-sama!! Is Rio-sama!!
Rio: Etto… Flora-sama?
Flora: Yes, Rio sama!!
Rio: Well…It is fine because Miharu-san and Sayo-san already know, but that way of calling is…
Flora: Ah!! I’m so-sorry. Because Haruto-sama has the same appearance that in his childhood and the hair color went back to black too. I was happy because it looked like we went back to the academy era and…
Rio: I turned into a child too? Then that’s why my voice is..
Rio’s mind: Is this the effect of the magic tool? We were teleported into a while space and our ages regressed? But I never heard of something like a magic that can regress one’s age. it is also strange that our clothes’ size changed just like our bodies’. The spatial magic aside is this using some kind of mental illusion for transforming us? By the way, I feel like I heard a strange voice before coming here…
The girls: Aaaaaaaah.
Rio: Everyone, just before coming here I… Um? Is something happening?
The girls: Cu-cuteeeeeee.
After looking it up a bit, maybe kairyoku means some mysterious power, it's a big maybe though, so take it with a grain of salt.

Edit: probably not, after listening to Aishia's words, I don't think kairyoku = mysterious power.

Flora just said his hair went back to black, she probably wouldn't be saying his hair went back if he's just using a magic tool to change its color so, hahaha another evidence (probably) that 22 will most likely have all the girls remember him.

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Old 2022-06-16, 05:27   Link #4065
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Latifa: Wha-what? How shining.
Celia: That was an incredible light right? Is everyone alright?
Christina: Yes.. somehow. I also feel like I heard Lord Amakawa’s voice somehow...
Liselotte:Here is… Just where are we? Eh?!... This… eh?! Ple-please wait. Everyone’s appearance, have we not turned into children?!
Everyone else: Eh?!
Latifa: It’s true. Everyone turned into children, Christina-sama did, Liselotte onee-chan did, Celia onee-chan… Uuum? Didn’t change at all right?
Celia: It is not like that right? Even me should have become a little smaller right?
Latifa: Uuuuuum?... Um, Celia onee-chan you are cute hehehehe.
Celia: You are pretending right?!
Liselotte: Maa, maa Celia-san…
Christina: It is because you are bigger than the current us. Everyone, have we become close to ten years younger?
Latifa: This… The child Christina-sama and Liselotte onee-chan are cute, you look like princesses. Rather, you are real princesses, right?
Christina: Tha-thank you.
Liselotte: You are cute too Suzune-chan, hehehehe.
Latifa: Really? Thanks hehehehe.
Celia: Moooo… Putting that aside, where is this place? It suddenly became white and…
Liselotte: Did that magic tool contain any kind of spatial magic?
Celia: Maybe it did. But the size of our clothes changing too is strange. I never heard about something like that.
Christina: Could be that Lord Amakawa and Flora are also in this space?
Liselotte: Right? But because it suddenly everything turned white we do not have any clue.
Latifa: I will try to follow the smells around us sun,sun… sun,sun…
Liselotte: Suzune-chan became too reliable?!
Christina: It would be fine if there was anything that we could do but…
Heaven 's voice:Nghn…nghn…nghn…nghn… Hi, everyone.
Latifa: Ah! Onii-chan?! Hey, hey it is onii-chan’s voice, where? Where are you onii-chan?!
Heaven’s voice: Haha… yes, it is me. It is onii-chan, I missed you cute little sister and my cute little kitties.
Everyone:Eh?????
Heaven’s voice: Eh?! What? What is that confusion?Eh? Did I say something?
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Old 2022-06-20, 04:07   Link #4066
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Old 2022-06-20, 11:50   Link #4067
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^Miharu looking good there.
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Old 2022-06-20, 15:04   Link #4068
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Haruto is a lucky guy. Looks at image above.
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Old 2022-06-21, 13:01   Link #4069
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The author really love pointlessly large harem doesn't he?
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Old 2022-06-21, 13:45   Link #4070
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Does size even matter? I mean 7 or 10 or 14 is still pointlessly large. Harems beyond 4 is just not doable, even from a hugging perspective lol, a person only has 4 sides, add a 5th harem member there and somebody always has to watch from the sidelines when he gets hugged. Besides, the harem and romance in this novel are just a gag, no? It sort of looks like the author has gotten too comfortable with the current romance formula, which is a static state of nothing. Prospects, though are the only things he's good at advancing as every female creature even mildly relevant to the story lol, falls for the MC. It's like author is a chess player that's very experienced at opening strategies but has no idea what midgame and endgame are.
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Old 2022-06-21, 17:39   Link #4071
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Does size even matter? I mean 7 or 10 or 14 is still pointlessly large. Harems beyond 4 is just not doable, even from a hugging perspective lol, a person only has 4 sides, add a 5th harem member there and somebody always has to watch from the sidelines when he gets hugged. Besides, the harem and romance in this novel are just a gag, no? It sort of looks like the author has gotten too comfortable with the current romance formula, which is a static state of nothing. Prospects, though are the only things he's good at advancing as every female creature even mildly relevant to the story lol, falls for the MC. It's like author is a chess player that's very experienced at opening strategies but has no idea what midgame and endgame are.

we are already in volume 20 and now you realize? that was already seen from vol 7 or even before keh, I think that you are already at a very late stage to complain, right now as I see it there are only 2 options left for the readers of this novel.

1: turn off the brain and stop questioning why the author writes the way he does, you just have to resign yourself and enjoy the novel

or

2: let the patience run out and stop reading it,once and for all, there are many options on the market anyway, lots of things to read

there is no a 3 option, at this point, in damned volume 20, you must not expect anything just let yourself go with the flow.
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Old 2022-06-23, 05:18   Link #4072
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we are already in volume 20 and now you realize? that was already seen from vol 7 or even before keh, I think that you are already at a very late stage to complain, right now as I see it there are only 2 options left for the readers of this novel.

1: turn off the brain and stop questioning why the author writes the way he does, you just have to resign yourself and enjoy the novel

or

2: let the patience run out and stop reading it,once and for all, there are many options on the market anyway, lots of things to read

there is no a 3° option, at this point, in damned volume 20, you must not expect anything just let yourself go with the flow.
I'm stating it now, not realizing it now, since I couldn't imagine romance taking place in this story no matter how many volumes are written. I just can't picture Rio seriously trying to woo a girl, if it really ends up happening, it would be a real sight to behold, a turning point of this novel. If the author however, sticks to his ways, the most romance we will ever get is a mention in the epilogue of the final volume that Rio got married to x or y, that or a mention of how our protagonist is going to consider romance from now on. I might be being pessimistic and the author just wanted the two plots; dragon king revival and romance to start at the same time, if you think about it, considering the status quo up to vol 20, how would the romance with any princess advance? There was no way for Rio to marry all of those princesses, his position needed to change to something not bound by noble rules and the nobles' society needed to enter an era of chaos where their hierarchy becomes partially worthless. Rather than bothering with all of that, I say we just chill and read for other interesting aspects if the romance seems dysfunctional. Just like you said; go with the flow.
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Old 2022-06-23, 09:14   Link #4073
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Well, that kind of has already happened.

Iirc, Rio did admit thatbhe was putting off romantic considerations until after he killed Lucius and now he is being approached for marriages so he is busy rebuffing those.

As for princesses that are too complicated, that has been answered a bit. Restoration has fallen and so Christina and Flora’s position is much weaker in regards to succession. Charlotte may be a princess and a shrewd one at that, but she is not the next in line. Plus the king had made it clear in the past that he wanted to connect Haruto in some way. Even if he gave him more freedom than normal, Haruto marrying a princess without formally joining the royal family was possible. Abd given that the forest trio are from the place he really calls home in this world, I’m not sure that was ever an obstacle. If anything, it was the lower ranked but stationary girls that were an obstacle, like Lieselotte and Celia…
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Old 2022-06-23, 13:22   Link #4074
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I'm stating it now, not realizing it now, since I couldn't imagine romance taking place in this story no matter how many volumes are written. I just can't picture Rio seriously trying to woo a girl, if it really ends up happening, it would be a real sight to behold, a turning point of this novel. If the author however, sticks to his ways, the most romance we will ever get is a mention in the epilogue of the final volume that Rio got married to x or y, that or a mention of how our protagonist is going to consider romance from now on. I might be being pessimistic and the author just wanted the two plots; dragon king revival and romance to start at the same time, if you think about it, considering the status quo up to vol 20, how would the romance with any princess advance? There was no way for Rio to marry all of those princesses, his position needed to change to something not bound by noble rules and the nobles' society needed to enter an era of chaos where their hierarchy becomes partially worthless. Rather than bothering with all of that, I say we just chill and read for other interesting aspects if the romance seems dysfunctional. Just like you said; go with the flow.
that's the attitude!!, let just chill and enjoy the story, I'm not interested in Rio's "harem" nor with anything related to his romantic life, I got tired of waiting, he is a protagonist incompatible with romance.

now I just want to know about the transcendental/demon war, God, rules etc, you know the actual plot and lore.

about romance, now I support characters who do have ambitions
I support hiroaki, I hope he achieve all his love goals (roana, liselote etc) I have high expectations for him,

masato is also there, I hope he can move forward with liliana in the next volume, rui is the same, he already got a GF, i support him.
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Old 2022-06-25, 18:54   Link #4075
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By the way is the adventure system something like this?

Honor class: adventurers with special status, fighting strength is unrelated
First class: a country's strongest warrior, have complete mastery of ancient artifact
Second class: professional soldiers, own powerful artifacts, commonly serve as the personal bodyguard of powerful nobles
Third class: soldiers, skilled magic users, typically servants of nobility
Four class: grown men or nobles, capable of self-defense
Fifth class: women and children, requires protection
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Old 2022-06-26, 02:09   Link #4076
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By the way is the adventure system something like this?

Honor class: adventurers with special status, fighting strength is unrelated
First class: a country's strongest warrior, have complete mastery of ancient artifact
Second class: professional soldiers, own powerful artifacts, commonly serve as the personal bodyguard of powerful nobles
Third class: soldiers, skilled magic users, typically servants of nobility
Four class: grown men or nobles, capable of self-defense
Fifth class: women and children, requires protection
5 and 4 aren't even adventurers tho. I'm not sure but, it probably doesn't work like that, if they require protection, they probably wouldn't join the guild, as is the case for a normal adult man in a world of monsters, magic and body enhancement. Wasn't it mentioned before that Lucius was 1st class and his 3 stooges were 2nd class? I think that's about all we know about the adventurer system, aside from the tag fiasco in Amande (WN exclusive).
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Old 2022-06-27, 05:42   Link #4078
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While this being a nice sight for the eyes is undeniable....Does anyone else feel that there's a subtle art style change here?
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Old 2022-06-27, 06:31   Link #4079
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While this being a nice sight for the eyes is undeniable....Does anyone else feel that there's a subtle art style change here?
Yeah, I don't know if this is the right word but, it feels more fantasy-esque. Beautiful either way tho.
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Old 2022-06-27, 07:24   Link #4080
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Okay after doing a bit of analysis, the actual art style itself hasn't changed. What's different here is that unlike the other artwork done for this series, the background is more out of focus than usual, which in combination with the soft orange lighting and the blending work done, gives off a different impression from before.
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