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Guido · 2011-12-13, 21:29

My hunch tells me this is going to be long arc bringing milestones and hardships for the Ashirogi Muto duo. They started with Miura trying his hardest to get them serialized with a gag manga, but the boys are pretty much convinced that is not their forte in narration and literary style.

I would be a hypocrite to say that since manga is a gamble-based industry, then the boys must cope with the pros and cons of their taken gamble, acknowledging that friction with the editor is one amongst the pros and cons.

My real feelings are rooting for the boys to do serialize what is their strength, because I do also empathize with that type of frustration. Getting too rushed and reckless and not liking in the least that my upperclassman or boss tries to slap on me that "this" or "that" way of doing the job is the most suited when I already grasped the how I can work things out with my own pace.

However, Hattori makes a valid point that while is fair game for the mangakas to argue against their editors, still the role and position of the editor cannot be compromised given how late they submitted two storyboards to Miura, and the boys fighting back as well by submitting a manuscript to be judged by Niizuma at the future monthly magazine contest without Miura's knowledge and consent.

This would be a battle of foolhardiness and epic determination between mangaka vs editor in this arc, because the boys are following their hunch on what their doing is right based on opinions of their rival while Miura can back-up his assertiveness on which manga genre for them to follow by relying on the data from the surveys.

Guardian Enzo · 2011-12-13, 22:24

Except that Future Watch did better than Hitman 10 in the surveys.

Anh_Minh · 2011-12-14, 02:21

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Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

Except that Future Watch did better than Hitman 10 in the surveys.

Not that much better.

Guardian Enzo · 2011-12-14, 13:10

S3 announced!

Great to see good work rewarded - JC Staff has done some of their best work with this 2nd season.

totoum · 2011-12-14, 13:18

Right on schedule

I like how they're giving us 2 cour each fall,it's a nice way to avoid fillers.

Xagzan · 2011-12-14, 13:27

Wonder what chapters season 3 will cover.

Then again, I'm not even sure where this season might end, if only cause I don't remember every story arc from the manga.

ars89 · 2011-12-14, 13:31

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Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

S3 announced!

Great to see good work rewarded - JC Staff has done some of their best work with this 2nd season.

just made my day

Somnus · 2011-12-14, 15:01

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Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

S3 announced!

Great to see good work rewarded - JC Staff has done some of their best work with this 2nd season.

That's fantastic news, as this is easily one of my favourite shows ever.

Speaking of which though does anyone else think that they'll end this season

Spoiler for Manga Chapter #:

P.S. If this was brought up before, I apologize.

totoum · 2011-12-14, 16:59

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Originally Posted by Somnus

Spoiler for Manga Chapter #:

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Spoiler for no big spoiler:

Master_Yoma · 2011-12-14, 23:06

Great anther season and the second season having even made it half way threw yet

ookamigirl · 2011-12-15, 15:40

Well, at least their career is moving forwards.
Things are still hanging for now.
I totally want them to get serialized soon.
Miura is not a good editor for them.

FlareKnight · 2011-12-17, 20:41

Spoiler for Ep12:

ars89 · 2011-12-17, 21:03

Spoiler for ep 12:

Guardian Enzo · 2011-12-18, 00:30

I can't even tell you how much that ep pissed me off. I was literally shouting at the screen.

Spoiler for 12:

Anh_Minh · 2011-12-18, 16:52

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Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

I can't even tell you how much that ep pissed me off. I was literally shouting at the screen.

Spoiler for 12:

kitten320 · 2011-12-20, 13:38

Finally caught up with the last 4 episodes.
I do agree that Miura is wrong for forcing his ideas but I can't fully agree with Mashiro either. I personally didn't like the idea behind Future Watch at all... it sounds cliche and I'm sure I have already see a similar setting somewhere.
Howevre, it is true that Takagi is much better at serious stuff and should go with it. Besides if author hates his story, it will never be good.
But what about the 3rd story? The idea is also familiar but despite that it still sounds interesting. At least I like it far more than other 2.

Guardian Enzo · 2011-12-20, 15:16

You mean "Two of Me"? I've been thinking that too - it's lurking in the weeds, forgotten.

I actually like the idea behind "Future Watch". Of course similar themes have been done but I thought it was an interesting twist.

BTW - "Hideout Door" is the focus on today's WSJ at the website.

kitten320 · 2011-12-20, 21:18

I dunno, a travel in time by just 7 minutes doesn't sound fun... I would expect a lot of power ups and random, unbelievable tricks to get everything right.
I mean, if the character were to witness a building exploding, do you believe 7 mins would be enough to stop it? I would expect a huge ass pull there. Though it is refreshing that the character can talk to himself without any time paradoxes.

ookamigirl · 2011-12-24, 04:31

Their editor totally crossed the line this time.
I still don't get why don't they just ditch him & go back to Hattori.
Miura is a failure as an editor.

Anh_Minh · 2011-12-24, 05:39

Because it's not their decision.

2011-12-13, 21:29	Link #841
Guido Snobby Gentleman Join Date: May 2004 Location: Monterrey, México Age: 43	New Page 10: Gag and Serious My hunch tells me this is going to be long arc bringing milestones and hardships for the Ashirogi Muto duo. They started with Miura trying his hardest to get them serialized with a gag manga, but the boys are pretty much convinced that is not their forte in narration and literary style. I would be a hypocrite to say that since manga is a gamble-based industry, then the boys must cope with the pros and cons of their taken gamble, acknowledging that friction with the editor is one amongst the pros and cons. My real feelings are rooting for the boys to do serialize what is their strength, because I do also empathize with that type of frustration. Getting too rushed and reckless and not liking in the least that my upperclassman or boss tries to slap on me that "this" or "that" way of doing the job is the most suited when I already grasped the how I can work things out with my own pace. However, Hattori makes a valid point that while is fair game for the mangakas to argue against their editors, still the role and position of the editor cannot be compromised given how late they submitted two storyboards to Miura, and the boys fighting back as well by submitting a manuscript to be judged by Niizuma at the future monthly magazine contest without Miura's knowledge and consent. This would be a battle of foolhardiness and epic determination between mangaka vs editor in this arc, because the boys are following their hunch on what their doing is right based on opinions of their rival while Miura can back-up his assertiveness on which manga genre for them to follow by relying on the data from the surveys.

2011-12-14, 13:18	Link #845
totoum Me at work Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Dublin, Ireland Age: 36	Right on schedule I like how they're giving us 2 cour each fall,it's a nice way to avoid fillers. __________________

2011-12-14, 23:06	Link #850
Master_Yoma Nekokota Festival Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lost in the Fairy Forest	Great anther season and the second season having even made it half way threw yet __________________

2011-12-15, 15:40	Link #851
ookamigirl Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	Well, at least their career is moving forwards. Things are still hanging for now. I totally want them to get serialized soon. Miura is not a good editor for them. __________________ My Blog --> ookami

2011-12-17, 20:41	Link #852
FlareKnight User of the "Fast Draw" Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada	Spoiler for Ep12: I really don't get a good feeling from this. The data is fine and can certainly feel Miura's strong passion for humor, but this could really end badly. The problem with data is that there are exceptions, no guarantee that they are going to be in the norm. Kind of feels similar anyways to how Miura got on their case for using the fan letters. Is taking all this not going to just make Miura's manga and not their manga? Still this was interesting. Shows that fiery temper of Takagi. If someone dares to say something like that they will feel his wrath. Besides the unstable situation with our main duo, interesting to see how things are going for Aoki. Difficult spot for her since she hasn't dated to try and write something from the guy's point of view. Nakai seems to be doing fine long as it's any girl involved in manga . __________________ Anime-Evo

2011-12-14, 13:27	Link #846
Xagzan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009	Wonder what chapters season 3 will cover. Then again, I'm not even sure where this season might end, if only cause I don't remember every story arc from the manga.

2011-12-17, 21:03	Link #853
ars89 One-Eyed Dragon Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NJ, USA	Spoiler for ep 12: Lol Miyoshi reading Mashiro's texts. Lol Hiramaru got conned. Poor Aoki, like how she was thinking about Nakai. Too bad it seems Nakai is a changed man, poor Takahama having to put up with them. Wow Iwase popped up out of nowhere. Seems she's still trying to find out why Takagi chose manga. When Miura was working i was saying to myself that it will all be a waste. Then Takagi was getting pulled in with that data. Was getting pissed when he wasn't listening to Mashiro. Glad he exploded at Miura, he deserved it big time. Wish they tried to ask the chief for a new editor. Hurts to see Hattori looking on and only give some advice every now then. Still don't think doing Ten is a good idea, but we'll have to wait and see. __________________ My Anime List

2011-12-20, 13:38	Link #856
kitten320 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007	Finally caught up with the last 4 episodes. I do agree that Miura is wrong for forcing his ideas but I can't fully agree with Mashiro either. I personally didn't like the idea behind Future Watch at all... it sounds cliche and I'm sure I have already see a similar setting somewhere. Howevre, it is true that Takagi is much better at serious stuff and should go with it. Besides if author hates his story, it will never be good. But what about the 3rd story? The idea is also familiar but despite that it still sounds interesting. At least I like it far more than other 2. __________________ My anime list

2011-12-20, 21:18	Link #858
kitten320 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007	I dunno, a travel in time by just 7 minutes doesn't sound fun... I would expect a lot of power ups and random, unbelievable tricks to get everything right. I mean, if the character were to witness a building exploding, do you believe 7 mins would be enough to stop it? I would expect a huge ass pull there. Though it is refreshing that the character can talk to himself without any time paradoxes. __________________ My anime list

2011-12-24, 04:31	Link #859
ookamigirl Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	Their editor totally crossed the line this time. I still don't get why don't they just ditch him & go back to Hattori. Miura is a failure as an editor. __________________ My Blog --> ookami

2011-12-24, 05:39	Link #860
Anh_Minh I disagree with you all. Join Date: Dec 2005	Because it's not their decision.