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Perfect 10 | 15 | 30.00% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 21 | 42.00% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 7 | 14.00% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 6 | 12.00% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 1 | 2.00% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2013-03-03, 20:14 | Link #101 | |
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2013-03-03, 22:40 | Link #102 | |
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2013-03-04, 03:24 | Link #104 | |
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Lol...in the future of a soulless police state, the one form of free information left is 2ch
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2013-03-04, 03:39 | Link #105 | |
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I take back what I wrote earlier about the conversations with Makishima being the worst things. Imaginary conversations with him are even worse.
And so the final challenge is to destroy Japan's food supply? It sort of makes sense, but you'd think that we would have been told that Japan is a closed society sometime in the preceding episodes. To be infodumped with vital information like this is awkward and uninvolving. The Sibyl System deciding to pick Akane as its new pawn does open up some new storytelling threads, and it's easily the best part of the episode. I wonder why she wasn't invited into the chief's office though. In any case, it gives Akane an opportunity to demonstrate that she's made of sterner stuff than she appears. One last bit: Kougami and Makishima are horribly lucky that the Sibyl System doesn't have the resources of Cure Rosetta. If it did, they'd have been tracked down long ago. Quote:
But comrade, if they were innocent, then why would they have been accused?
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2013-03-04, 03:45 | Link #106 |
今宵の虎徹は血に飢えている
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Coz the brains don't like them. At the core it still boils down to that. Dress it in however many subjective human ideas you want, in the end it still comes down to some brains finding you repulsive and needed to be cut out.
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2013-03-04, 10:50 | Link #108 |
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Most of the time (IE 99% of the time), people are arrested based on C.C., not based on what the brains want. (which coincides with what the brains want, but there is a bit of a subtle difference here) Remember, Sibyl does not actually read thoughts.
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2013-03-04, 10:51 | Link #109 | |
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Also memes are created quickly in Psycho Pass. Personally I would like more creepy Makishima images. |
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2013-03-04, 11:14 | Link #112 | |
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The point of the show isn't about whether the Sibyl System works (which it does despite its gaping holes), but about the human toll it incurs. Or at least it should have been. The problem is that the creators used the silly disembodied brains to engender a gross-out reaction instead.
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2013-03-04, 11:35 | Link #113 | |
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2013-03-04, 11:44 | Link #114 | |
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2013-03-04, 12:00 | Link #115 | |
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Not really. The riots demonstrate one of the gaping holes of the Sibyl System, but it still works because the problem is a temporary one. And really, most of the people are quite satisfied with the way society works. That's different from saying that the Sibyl System is any good though, as any number of bad political and social systems can still work.
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2013-03-04, 12:19 | Link #116 |
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The riots were a diversion to distract the undermanned police force, so that a small team could attack the heart of the Sybil system. If choe had brought a bag of pipe bombs and topped to use them, the Sybil system would have been completely annihilated. If the survival of your system is so fragile that it can be decided by whether or not a criminal happened to bring a bag full of pipe bombs, it's far too fragile to survive, and that there are probably other unacceptable weak points.
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2013-03-04, 12:29 | Link #117 |
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Why do you insist on telling us the same thing over and over and over? We got you the first time.
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2013-03-04, 12:42 | Link #118 | |
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That brings up a very interesting quandry though - the inherent nature of the Sibyl System is its the greatest weakness. So why didn't Makishima try to expose that nature instead of coming up with some dumb food supply issue on the spot? There are so many more interesting plot threads that could be addressed rather than coming up with new ones whole cloth.
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2013-03-04, 12:43 | Link #119 | |
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One line of argument defending Sybil that I've frequently read is "Well it works, doesn't it?" As if the value of a governmental or societal system is in sheer longevity. I mean, who cares what benefit it holds, or toll it takes, on humanity? Going by the "It works!" rationale, maybe we should all go back to monarchy. After all, monarchy has much more history behind it than democracy does. Monarchy clearly works! So yes, I agree that the main focus shouldn't be on if Sibyl "works" or not, but rather on if Sybil is desirable or not. However, two points... 1) I think the brains were meant to disturb the viewer, but I doubt Gen is aiming for any viewer to judge Sibyl purely on the basis of "Eeewwww... brains!" On the whole, the fact it's 250 brains doesn't bother people as much as the fact it's 250 people like Makishima. If these people still maintained their bodies, and just met in a matrix somewhere from time-to-time, it wouldn't have a major impact on my view of Sibyl. 2) Roger is right on a practical basis, which does question how long Sibyl would even work. A smart gang, or a small army, would be enough to take down Sibyl. Personally, I largely chalk this up to Sibyl complacency. And maybe that's part of Gen's point - Very authoritarian states will eventually achieve what they want, and then grow complacent, and then eventually a Makishima rises and... Perhaps it's an added argument against authoritarian states.
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2013-03-04, 12:45 | Link #120 |
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For the record, the entire Sybil situation we have currently could be considered a writers block. As in, its all an excuse to get Ko to run after Makshima.
Plot wise the Sybil system has been nothing more then a deus ex machina to drive Ko out of the police force, have him gear up, drive the police force to after him, drive him and Akane into some cookie cutter love relationship and son on. If the next episodes focuses on Ko with Sybil as a "observer" I'll be somewhat disappointed, since I'm not a fan of this sort of forced exposition.
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