2009-07-29, 01:30 | Link #3421 | |
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When it comes to China or the United States, this always seems to be the case. To ordinary people, the situation of the Uighurs is pretty much acknowledged but all people can do is pretty much say "rest in peace" and that's about it. It is truly pitiful that injustices are occurring in modern times like now where civilians are slaughtered for almost no justifed reasons but at the same time, reality says that nothing can be done to stop or prevent any of it from occurring. Thus, the Uighurs don't have many choices. They can choose to live under their government's control in which they can do nothing but agree with everything, whether it be unreasonable or not. Or they can choose to take their own lives so that they won't end up dying in the hands of their enemies who might run tanks over them or take away their organs while they are still alive. Of course, considering that the population of the Uighurs consist of people of all ages and genders, its not like everyone can pull that sort of thing off, not mentioning that if the capables all die, the young and the old will no doubt succumb to unreasonable demands and actions of their government. Thus, it is only natural as to why many of the Uighurs are doing mass movements. It is their only hope, even though it is obviously futile. In other words, no matter how united the Uighurs are, they are pretty much destined to lose due to their obvious circumstances and the situation itself. |
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2009-07-29, 20:22 | Link #3422 | |
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2009-07-29, 21:35 | Link #3424 |
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No one messes with the Motherland
Terrorism only works against small undefended countries; against a huge country with a very big army and a loose sense of ethic; its a very good excuse to get carpet bombed; repeatedly. The Terrorism thing of course is a roots thing; get rid of the roots (of poor living conditions and a life of little to no opportunity) and you can start building a better country. I don't suport the violence that's been used against the Uighers, but I can't really be sympathetic toward them either; if it was peaceful China would have no excuse to start killing people. Unfortunately, that was not the case. And like always; there's a leader of all of this; lounging by themselves safe and inactive. The Uighers will lose alot from Assimilation, but it's not without gain; though they will be initially discriminated against, things will subside with time. They can't do much without leverage, and an unadvanced province doesn't have much leverage. The best they can do IMO, is to take it for now, and build their abilities to demand equity and the such; contrary to popular belief those things are not given, but earned.
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2009-07-30, 05:18 | Link #3425 | |
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The extremists would be making a big mistake to anger China. With US hounding on their back, having another superpower on them means annihilation beyond the seven hells.
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2009-07-30, 11:32 | Link #3427 | |
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the main difference between the declaring jihad against the US and China is that China doesn't have to pay any lip service about human rights. In CHina the common people would actually approve the government in the use of torture against terrorist. The various groups in the US would be up in arms if a terrorist suspect so much look like he has burise.
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2009-07-30, 16:56 | Link #3428 | |
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As you can see, Uighurs are Muslims and it is also a fact that the world under the authority of the United States tend to label all Muslims as terrorists because of several organizations who do commit terrorist acts, such as the Talibans, the Hezbollahs, the Al-Qaeda, and also some other smaller groups. For that matter, it is also well-known that the Bush Administration had once abused the anti-terrorism policy by invading Iraq for primarily oil. China is currently also abusing the anti-terrorism policy of the world by killing Tibetan Buddhists and also Uighurs. Apparently, due to the chaos and also the fact that foreign journalists do not have the right to enter those chaotic parts to obtain information and unreal the truth to the world, we are kept in the dark about which side started the attacks. And the fact that China has been labeling Muslims as terrorists, treating their people like shit and also giving the international community false numbers on death tolls and wounded/arrested individuals, not mentioning that their nation is notorious for being somewhat of a totalitarian regime. It is obvious that this is not an issue of assimilation. It is more like the era of WWII in which Nazi Germany's treatment of Jews who reside in Germany. Can they hope for a better future? Whenever an Uighur (Muslim) or a Tibetan (Buddhist) expresses disagreement with their unjustified treatment, they are instantly labeled as a terrorist who is conspiring to revolt or something of an unpleasant nature. This is also a reason why the image of anti-terrorism is becoming increasingly unpopular because China and the Bush Administration had frequently abused such a policy. This is also a good reason why the DPJ will be withdrawing from the anti-terrorism refueling mission as that it is not approved by the United Nations. |
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2009-07-30, 23:22 | Link #3429 |
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Fixed that for you. "Terrorist" is fast becoming an easy label alongside "witch," "Communist," and "pedophile." It struck with the sentiment of our generation ("witch" being a couple centuries ago, "Communist" being 1950s, and "pedophile" being 1980s), so people in power will use it whenever it suits their purpose. It's a trigger for conjuring mental images of a generic, "common" enemy to the masses.
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2009-07-31, 12:02 | Link #3432 |
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I figure the entire world will, to a large extent, evolve to a 'Chinese' mindset -- order and harmony outweigh various forms of reactionary individualism (whether for good or bad). Not saying I think that is a good idea.... just saying
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2009-07-31, 15:46 | Link #3434 | |
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How's life on an MSDF destroyer off Somalia?
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2009-07-31, 17:42 | Link #3435 | |
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2009-07-31, 20:43 | Link #3436 |
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RIP Cory Aquino
Mrs. Aquino, widow of Senator Benigno Aquino Jr., will be remembered as an icon of democracy, having led a military-backed popular revolt in 1986 that ousted a dictator who ruled the Philippines for 20 years. The complete background ofthe EDSA Revolution I think this kind of movement was eeeerily similar to what happened in eastern europe in the late 80s-early 90s. Last edited by mg1942; 2009-07-31 at 21:11. |
2009-08-01, 03:08 | Link #3437 |
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http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx...bCategoryId=63 http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakin...ry-Aquino-dies Requiescat in Pace. The Housewife who defeated a dictator in a stunning victory of democracy and freedom, and for that accomplishment I must give thanks.
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2009-08-01, 07:24 | Link #3438 | |
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US file-sharer gets $700,000 fine
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2009-08-01, 15:29 | Link #3439 | |
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That's the only accomplishment she did. I don't get why people praise her as "great" and feel nostalgia for her era. In terms of actual, material accomplishment, there's little that she did. During her presidency, this country was wracked by all sorts of infrastructure "inadequacy" which did not begin to be solved until the Ramos presidency. In short, longing for her era means longing for yes, a clean government but one suffering from chronic power, water and telecommunications shortages and stagnant economy. |
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2009-08-01, 16:07 | Link #3440 |
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^ I know some of her minus points. We can also point out and discuss further the Mendiola Massacre (which soured attempts to negotiate with the NPA), the mutinies led by Honasan, the problem of CARP (in conflict with their Hacienda Luisita interests), and the bruhaha over the US bases prior to Pinatubo. But all that has been overshadowed by that moment, facing the Marcoses on her terms. Who else can be in her place? Surely not one were willing but in the end they picked her because she's the only one left to represent the opposition with a face, even if she said she doesn't know jack first about being a president. It's just that in these days (and by next year) we'll be facing opportunists from both the administration and the opposition, some of which are... of questionable quality. We might as well be counting credible statesmen on our fingers.
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