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To do this reasonably from here, you essentially would need a beanstalk, which would be ideal, or possibly a ground-based laser or nuclear propulsion system first. The first is a project that isn't even feasible or possible at the moment, and the second will probably have people up in arms. Using the asteroids belt for raw materials that can't be dug up/made using lunar ones would be ideal, but the cost in lives alone would be bad; hazard pay to get enough trained people to go will have to be high. You don't even have enough people trained/experienced in long-term, low-G construction techniques to begin with. Getting that experience will mean a large number of injuries, esp. in the beginning, which in space and if serious enough, will mean death. You can't exactly send someone who is badly hurt to the facility best able to treat him when that place is as far away from the moon or the belt... Pragmatically, unless you get (1) a strong dreamer and speaker to drum up public support to fund the project and (2) successfully met milestones at every turn, it isn't going to happen. The backstabbing, a lack of interest in time and costs (lives and money) will mean an end, IMHO.
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2010-02-08, 12:00 | Link #5962 | |
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2010-02-08, 12:40 | Link #5963 | ||
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Life Medical Long Term Care Disability Workers Comp Lawsuits No insurance company in the world is going to underwrite a moon project knowing that is a almost 100% certainty in payout. And no private company in the world is going to sent workers to the moon without insurance. And no private company is going to be able to self-insured themselves adequately for a project like this. Either the government built a base on the moon or no one is going to do it. Quote:
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2010-02-08, 12:49 | Link #5964 |
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I think history has shown that people are willing to do some crazy things for a chance at a different life. Give the people who are willing to do the life threatening work a chance for some large share in the profits and I think we would all be surprised at how many people would sign up for a chance to work in space, danger be damned.
If people were as afraid to risk their lives as some of you are saying I doubt we'd be where we are as a species.
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2010-02-08, 12:54 | Link #5965 | ||
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Most life Insurance company have exclusions for people whose job has to do with flying or flying as a hobby/sport. No one will insured you to go to space much less the moon, no private company anyway.
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2010-02-08, 13:21 | Link #5967 | |
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2010-02-08, 15:08 | Link #5970 | |
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2010-02-08, 15:19 | Link #5973 | |
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2010-02-08, 16:40 | Link #5975 |
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Look at the poorest nations in Africa where they don't have access to clean water, to food, to medicine. That's the kind of situation you're advocating for everyone when you suggest people should still live as they did before industrialization. Life back in the 19th century wasn't easy. All you're doing is advocating an increase in human suffering. The answer isn't to cut back and drop the first world to the third world standard of living. It's to bring everyone up to the first world standard of living while expanding into space for more resources. All of our energy and material needs are there. All we have to do is take those first steps, to develop a cheap, reliable way of getting into space. Sure, there's going to be problems along the way, and it's not going to be easy, but if humanity is to survive we need to get off this rock.
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2010-02-08, 16:46 | Link #5976 |
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The technological optimist point of view is that we can think our way through any problem. Technological optimists usually hate politicians and robber barons out for 'short term gains'.... :P
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2010-02-08, 17:02 | Link #5978 |
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I can't say I'm real thrilled about our Shelby's, Dodd's, Reid's, Boehner's, et al much less our last few presidents. I suppose "the people get the government they deserve" comes into play somewhat since "the people" are suckling "bread and circuses" as they bloat up.
In other news, a somewhat disturbing news item: http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/natio...=Google+Reader More Than 1/3 of All Japanese Couples are Now Sexless
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2010-02-08, 17:12 | Link #5980 | |
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Part of their panic over "no sex == no babies" crisis.
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